Tim Wildman: Many parts of the Southeast have had much needed rain
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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody and welcome to Today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Thursday, April 30, 2026. Lot to talk about today. It's a good thing because it's a talk show. Fred, Jackson. Good morning, brother Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Krish Woodber.
>> Dave Williams: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray Pritchard. How you doing, brother Ray?
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, we're rocking and rolling here in Kansas. How are you doing, Tim?
>> Tim Wildmon: Everything's good. You know, we had, in many parts of the Southeast, the last couple of days have had much needed rain.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: we had here in Tupelo, three and a half inches are between three and a half and four inches over like a ten hour period. Right. Wow, that's almost like hurricane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: downfall. And we needed it. And I know many people in the. I know they needed down in Georgia, especially southern Georgia and North Florida. Florida, where the fires have been. What about you guys? How are you doing on rainfall? Because there's a drought.
>> Tim Wildmon: Look, we could use some. I was reading that article the other day that said so much of the nation is suffering either in literal drought or what they call drought like conditions. So we need rain, folks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know it seems odd to say. Yep. Because you know, especially the southeastern part of the United States is the wettest typically by now. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: But yeah, we had a very dry late winter, early spring. So the rain that we had much welcome. It really is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. I went out to the yard, you know, after this rain, like 12 hours after the rain, it had already soaked in how dry it was. Yes. Where we live here, in northeast Mississippi. All right. Dr. Frank Turek will be with us at the bottom of the hour. We look forward to visiting with Frank. He's traveling the country on college campuses sharing, the I don't have Enough Faith to be an Atheist tour continues. And we'll be talking to Dr. Frank about where he is next and what's going on. Right. Give us a good word from the Bible before we jump into the news here.
Don't look back when walking your dog, Tim says
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Tim, I was walking my dog about 20 minutes ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just for the radio had, you know,
>> Tim Wildmon: had to take over the kind of dog you got now.
>> Tim Wildmon: A 5 year old Aussie doodle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Combination Australian shepherd and poodle. we got her five years ago. I remember a pandemic puppy. We were back when we were all sheltering in place. Marlene and I were lonely, the grandkids were far away. And so we we got Sadie when she was just, maybe, I don't know, 12 weeks old or something. And because she's an Australian shepherd, she's just. She wakes up every day as if she just had two bottles of her, two cans of Red Bull.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, that's a good way to describe it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, I mean that is the way it is. Okay, so, so I was thinking about this. Here's a. Here's a verse from the Bible to meditate on. Tim, this is the words of Jesus, one of the shortest verses in the NewSong Testament. Jesus said in Luke 17:32. Remember Lot's wife? Remember Lot's wife? Him. When you think about Lot's wife, what comes to mind?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, yeah, she kind of. She was stopped in her footsteps abruptly.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, and, and why did she get in trouble?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, she. That stories from the Old Testament, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, and Lot was the brother of,
>> Fred Jackson: Nephew of Abraham.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nephew of Abraham.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nephew.
>> Tim Wildmon: My brother.
>> Chris Woodward: He. It is referred as a brother in some parts, but they mean like familial.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I didn't remember that. Okay. I didn't remember that. I did not remember that incorrectly. But anyway, point is they're leaving, Sodom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sodom and Gomorrah. Right. And the sulfur is coming down out of him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So the. So, their God told him to leave. And they're leaving, leaving to get away because the city of Sodom is going to be destroyed. And it was being destroyed. And God told them, don't look back. And she looked back. And when she looked back, she turned to a pillar of salt. So that's the story. Do I have that right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you got it 100% right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. What? Okay, go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don't look back. Now, our puppy, five year old puppy, greatest dog in the world. But she is. She's got so much energy. She looks back constantly, especially if she sees another dog. Right. There's just something in her. She's got to stop and let that other dog know what she thinks. And especially what bothers Sadie. Little ankle biters. I don't know why it is 35 pounds, but she sees one of these little tiny dogs, and she just goes nuts. And when I'm walking her, I'm constantly saying to her, sadie, don't look back. Don't look back. There's nothing back there. Don't look back. We'll all just get in trouble if you keep looking back. And you know, that, I think, is what Jesus wanted us to think about. Don't look back. There's nothing for us back there. Years ago, the Lord gave me what I call the first rule of the spiritual life. It's three simple statements. You can't go back. You can't stay here. You must go forward. I can't go back to relive the past or change the past. I can't stay here because life is like a river that flows ever onward. But what I can do is say, by the grace of God and in the strength and with the power of the Holy Spirit, I will go forward with the Lord. So here's a good word for today for all of us friends. Don't look back. Remember Lot's wife. Don't let that happen to you. Don't look back. Just keep going forward with the Lord.
>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.
>> Fred Jackson: What a great devotion.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, preach it, brother.
Fred: We have cats which keep arriving at our door
>> Fred Jackson: That is excellent.
>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All of it. While I was walking Sadie 20 minutes.
>> Chris Woodward: Ray is that guy that you pray is the. You know, when you go to, like, a. You know, there's a conference and there's, like, several people preaching or speaking or whatever, and it just kind of goes on and on. And that. That third or fourth guy gets up, you're like. That's the message that you want to hear when it's the final guy right there. The. The mic drop. Two minutes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I have been that third or fourth. I know what that's like.
>> Fred Jackson: Or right after lunch.
>> Tim Wildmon: Speaker. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, that's a tough one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Been there, done that.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're afraid? Got dogs or what? Now y' all got. Y' all have dogs?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, no, sir. I had one. I, had an ankle biter many years ago. Milo, may he rest in peace.
>> Fred Jackson: No, we have cats which keep arriving at our door, and my wife and daughter just don't have the heart to turn them away.
>> Tim Wildmon: We had that happen to us. I probably shouldn't tell this. I'm gonna tell it anyway.
>> Fred Jackson: Go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is 20 years ago where we live, so it's a long time ago. And that lady moved way away, and I don't even know if she's still alive today. But we had a neighbor that had, like, I don't know what you call a group of 15 or 20 cats. I heard a convention. I called it.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm gonna look it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Convention of cats. And they would come over to our house at night and just get up on all our outdoor furniture. Why are you laughing, Fred? This wasn't funny.
>> Fred Jackson: These are cats. These are cats. I know cats.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go ahead, Krish. Do you. Do you get the answer to the question there?
>> Chris Woodward: okay, this is one. One answer to. What do you call a group of cats? And I'm not making it up. It's called a meow m Tan, which is a play.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're just making up.
>> Chris Woodward: That's what the Internet says.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Anyway, we had a meow tan of cats, and we ask her, you know, once or twice. Hey, do you know, it's an awkward conversation, but can you keep. You know, cats are coming over there, just camping out on our outdoor furniture and making a mess, and they're digging in our plants on the. So, I mean, you know, you don't want to create a tension between your neighbor, but at the same time, you don't want your. Every night this to be happening. So anyway, it didn't stop. And, there are these little things you can catch animals in, you know what I'm saying? Okay, So I caught a few of them over the course of a month or so, and I gave him a new home. So. And I didn't kill. I did not hurt them. I did not harm them. But if she wasn't going to take care of this. What'd you call it, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: Meow Tan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Meow Tan. It was going to. And they were all going to just decide to go over to the Wildmon Lounge every night and hang out. Then you know what? I was going to give him another lounge, so. And I did. I did. Again, I didn't harm the animals.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just took them right to a new frontier. Is that so? Is there anything wrong with that? Well, no, I'm asking you, is there anything. Is there anything wrong with what I did? Did I need to repent of anything? Well, y' all aren't going to answer it, are you?
>> Tim Wildmon: We're somewhat undecided. No, you didn't give us a ruling.
Tim: Yeah, probably better left untold
You're.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're a cat. Fred's a cat. Well, he likes cat. I don't have anything against cats.
>> Fred Jackson: No, but they have.
>> Tim Wildmon: If they're my neighbor's cats. They're not mine.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not Yours.
>> Fred Jackson: I know.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, and if it keeps on and on and on, you know, have a meow tan.
>> Fred Jackson: Tim, I think this is one of those stories like Ed has his rabbit story.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, probably better left untold. I agree. I should. I. I about pulled it a long time ago.
>> Fred Jackson: Anyway, our producer is keeping track of stories were harmed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, that's right. I'm just saying, you will. But they quit hanging out on my back patio.
>> Chris Woodward: The fall sheriff on gift will not be a Peter bracelet.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the lady, she. She didn't ever ask, ah, you, you seen cat number 16? Because it's missing.
>> Fred Jackson: And you responded, not anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, she moved away. The lady moved away. And I was thankful I didn't ever have to get into that. It would have tested my spirit of honesty.
>> Fred Jackson: There you go.
Brent crude today surged over $120 a barrel amid Iran war worries
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, here we go. You're listening to today's issues. What do you got for us, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: Well, if anybody listening to this show needs some gasoline, maybe your vehicles on quarter tank.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because after a good mood here.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Krish, I would suggest that you go ahead and fill up your tank now. And I say that because Brent crude today surged over $120 a barrel amid these, Iran war worries. the good news is it has since come down a little bit. It's now currently trading for $106. but, this is going to have an impact on gas prices because we all know that, if something happens, anywhere in the world with an oil supplier or involving oil supplies, everybody jacks the price up. So if you need some gas, I would go get it. The current national average is $4.30, which is up 31 cents from this time last month and, well, more than a dollar than this time last year.
>> Tim Wildmon: Brad?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, I tell you, if there's anything that's going to prompt an end to this sooner than later, it's the American public getting very, very irritated with gas prices.
>> Tim Wildmon: End of what?
>> Fred Jackson: The end of the Iran war.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah. Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: We're in an election year, okay? And, folks, even folks who are big fans of our, president and are big fans of, you know, going after these, nasty Islamic regime in Iran, right? But if this keeps happening. When I came into work this morning, Rusty pugh on our 6 o' clock newscast, the Brent crude was at 126 per barrel. Now, if it keeps going, that's almost a record. If we keep having these jumps, the American people, and they start seeing at the pump this morning when I'm on my way into work, one of the cheaper spots in town had regular at 379 and we're better than a lot of places in the country.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.
>> Fred Jackson: So it keeps climbing. And diesel. I don't know if you have diesel.
>> Chris Woodward: God bless you. If you drive a diesel vehicle.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Chris Woodward: The average for diesel right now is $5.49. Yeah, a, ah, year ago it was 356.
>> Fred Jackson: And I, you know, I think behind closed doors, when the president is speaking with his people about this, you have to know that gas prices are high on the agenda. And they're saying, Mr. President, we have to have a solution, whatever that solution is, to ending this war in Iran.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray, what are the guys, gas prices in Kansas City?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I think here in Kansas City they're pretty close to what they are in Tupelo. But over the weekend I was up in Chicago and they were way over four dollars.
>> Tim Wildmon: Way wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: For not, not five, but inching up in that direction, you get over four
>> Tim Wildmon: bucks, you start feeling it. The average person starts feeling it. Now, I will say this. as Krish has noted, we're about to get into, summer vacation, traveling season. And, so that's gonna, that's gonna increase the demand. yes. And so I don't, I'm like you, Fred. I think the president, and his team are looking at this and certainly the Republicans are, because they're going to be blamed for it by the general public if it continues. I think people are willing to put up with this for, I don't know, a month or two, in the name of trying to defeat the Iranian regime that threatens the world with nuclear weapons. potentially. But at the same time, you know, you can't cut into the average person's, budget every. By increasing gas 2 or $300 a month. No, for some people. For some people. I'm sorry, maybe not up for everybody. A couple hundred dollars a month. Anyway.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, anyway, we'll, we'll see what happens. But. So this is all directly related to the strait, of Hormuz.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Being all. Being. Not being able to be delivered through there.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And it's, it's, it's, basically somewhat bottlenecking the, oil industry. Is that right?
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Chris Woodward: It's mostly the result of that. This is the time of year when you're switching over from one seasonal blend to the other, which is something the government's done for a long time for environmental purposes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Seasonal blends.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. There's different blends. Yeah, there's different blends of gasoline, like in the winter. The federal government doesn't require certain stuff to be added to gas during the winter, which is why gas tends to be cheaper around Christma than it is around, let's say, fourth of July.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: so that is one little factor. Demand has also picked up because people are going on spring break or whatnot. But it's mostly the result of the war in Iran and people that are. What's called speculating. The, people doing things, manipulating the markets to try to make a buck.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know what, you know, what you don't think about, too. What most people, a lot of people don't think about is the trickle down, because that's where probably it hits people more than. So you say, well, yeah, okay, I'm paying, a dollar more at the pump. Okay, well, that's not all. You're paying more, for everything else because the trucks that deliver all those products have to, they, they can't eat that. So they're going to pass it on to the consumer. And then the consumer is the same person. Patent. You fill their car up at the pump. So it's, it's a, as I say. And you said, Fred, I think it behooves, and I know President Trump and his team know this, but they need to, they need to solve this problem soon. And then at least by Memorial Day, seems to me, or it's going to carry. It's going to the, the, the, you know, when people get things fixed in their head and they're not going to be moved from it, no matter if the facts on the ground change because they've already been, programmed. Well, that's going to happen with this.
The Trump administration has to come up with a scenario that gives them a win
If, if it doesn't change, I would say by Memorial Day, but that's. I'm just pulling that.
>> Fred Jackson: They've got to come up. They've got to. When I say they, the Trump administration, they have to come up with a scenario that gives them a win.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Now, what does that look like? our Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, keeps. He was. He's before another hearing today. Yesterday, he's before the House, I think Armed Services. Today's before.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's worked up, too.
>> Fred Jackson: He's mad, he's pumped, and he's very good in that environment.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: But he mentioned yesterday, you know, we've spent already in the last two months of this war. We're two months into it. $25 billion. 25 billion.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.
>> Fred Jackson: And our military wants, a budget for next year of 1.5 trillion.
>> Chris Woodward: I think that Is the plan from the administration?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, 1.5 trillion. That's what they want for a budget.
>> Chris Woodward: M. Congress will have a say over that, of course.
>> Fred Jackson: But so you add all of this in and the American public starts getting very concerned as you've been talking about, you know, groceries, bills, go because of all of this. So I think sooner than later, they've got to come up with, all right, we have put Iran back in its shoes for 10, 15 years. And, we consider that the win. We're starting to fold our tents and come home.
>> Tim Wildmon: They need an off ramp.
>> Fred Jackson: They do.
>> Tim Wildmon: They need an off ramp.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, they need to get there. And it's not helping right now. Like, I think overnight the new Ayatollah there saying, you know, basically, you know, that, we're winning this. And then you had the German chancellor, yesterday publicly saying that the United States is being humiliated by the Iranians. So you, you got the mainstream media that doesn't like Trump. They're feeding all of this stuff out there. So, yeah, they've got to meet. The Trump administration's got to meet and say, we've got to find an off ramp.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, in response to the Ayatollah, the President Trump put out a meme last night. You see this?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I can post it for you.
>> Tim Wildmon: He put out a meeting, with him as, what would you call that, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: I mean, he looks like something out of like a Stallone movie from the 80s, maybe Commando, Rambo, Rambo,
>> Tim Wildmon: Terminator, Terminator or something like that. He's got a, it's a meme. President Trump put this out. A meme is a made up picture. And it's got him, like a, like he's carrying a. What is a big gun. And, and what does it say? No more Mr. Nice.
>> Chris Woodward: No more Mr. Nice Guy. And he's holding what the left fondly refers to as an assault rifle while stuff behind him explodes.
>> Tim Wildmon: so anyway, that's President Trump saying, he's, he's. That, that, that says to me, he's, he's saying, I'm, I'm fixing to attack you. by fixing. Let me define that for people who don't know what I'm saying. I'm about to, attack you. no more Mr. Nice Guy. Corrie. He said that before and done. And done nothing militarily. Yeah. So I don't know. With President Trump now, he just, I wonder if he's in a. He. I wonder if he's in, I don't know. What to do Moment. Boy, I don't know what. Or maybe. Maybe better phrase this way, I'm not sure what to do next. Moment. maybe something like that. Not. Not. I don't know what to do, but I'm not sure what to do next.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, he wants to do well in the midterm elections.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay, so how do we. How do we get there?
>> Tim Wildmon: This blockade is what he's. That's what he's counting on, is this blockade squeezing Iran to make, changes. And. And how long do you go on with that and how long does that not. What if it doesn't work?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, if we're sitting here a month from now going, this isn't working.
>> Fred Jackson: And we have to remember this blockade is stopping oil and gas coming out of Iranian ports. Yeah, but that still puts pressure on world oil prices.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Because it's a global commodity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.
The king and queen of England are visiting Arlington National Cemetery this morning
All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Let's go ahead and take our break a little early here. And Krish. Krish, has got some. You got a bunch of good news, don't you, Krish? Coming our way.
>> Chris Woodward: I am. You know, they call me sunshine and rainbows.
>> Tim Wildmon: They do.
>> Chris Woodward: Among many other things.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so we'll be back with more news. Dr. Frank Turek will be with us, too. And, a lot. The king, of England and the. And the queen are at Arlington National Cemetery this morning in Washington, D.C. well, actually, Arlington National Cemetery is in Virginia.
>> Chris Woodward: It is?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yep. But they're visiting our nation's capital again.
>> Fred Jackson: They're wrapping things up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wrapping things up before they fly home.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: how old is he, by the way?
>> Fred Jackson: 77. In that ballpark, two years behind the president.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.
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Cross Examined going to University of Tennessee tonight to discuss evidence for Christianity
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, welcome back to Today's Issues on American Family Radio Network is Frank. Oh, Dr. Frank Turek is on with us. he's a traveling man and, he's somewhere out there in the good old U.S. of A. Frank, how are you?
>> Dave Williams: Great, sir. We're heading to University of Tennessee today. Tonight at 8pm Eastern, 7 Central, myself and Elisa Childers will be talking about evidence for Christianity. In fact, Elisa is going to talk about how she almost left the faith for progressive Christianity and why she didn't. And we're going to also take a lot of questions. So that's going to be tonight, 8 Eastern, 7 Central. If anyone's near Knoxville, Tennessee, that's where we'll be. If you're not near Knoxville, it will be live streamed on the Cross Examined YouTube channel.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, I was gonna, that, I was gonna ask UT Knoxville. UT has other branches across the Volunteer, state, but, so UT Knoxville, the main campus, where and what time it's gonna be tonight?
>> Dave Williams: 8pm Eastern, 7 Central, right on campus. I don't have it in front of me now, but it's on our website, crossexamined.org they can see where it is on campus and it starts at 8 Eastern time. So we're looking forward to seeing a bunch of folks up there and answering a bunch of questions as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: when you go to, college campus like that, do you have a host, I mean a host ministry like Campus Crusade for Christ? They're not called it.
>> Dave Williams: Yeah, that's the way it works. and if it's a public school like University of Tennessee, they can't deny us if a, a group on campus that is an authorized group invites us. So in this case, it's a group called Ratio Christi, which means reason for Christ. So they're more of a Christian apologetics, meaning evidence for the faith group. They meet every week and, they invited me. I've been there. This is my second or third time there at University of Tennessee. I think it's my third time there. they invite me and they invite everybody on campus to come. So it's open to everyone, including people who are not students. Anyone can come to this event.
Tim Ferriss: Top three objections to Christianity are morality, morality and morality
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, what's the number one? I've asked you this before, but I'm asking a different way. What's the number one question you get from a, adversary there, a, non believer, and they think maybe this is the first time you've ever heard it?
>> Dave Williams: Yeah, well, the objections that we get, and this has been the case for at least the past, say, eight or nine years, the top three objections we get to Christianity, Tim, are, morality, morality and morality. In other words, it's all about, well, what about LGBTQ issues? Or what about slavery in the Bible, supposed slavery, or why did God kill the Canaanites? Or, you know, if there's a good God, why is there evil? Those questions are the ones that dominate. Now. 20 years ago, it wasn't. It was some of that, but they would push back more on the evidence for God. Now they're pushing. Now they're not asking as much, is Christianity true? They're asking, is Christianity good? According to their definition of good. Now, of course, if there is no God, there is no objective definition to good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Dave Williams: Everything's just a matter of opinion. They see that's the problem. They think they, they can say, well, you know, I, I think this is right. Well, if there's no standard beyond yourself that establishes it as right, it's just your opinion. So your objection to God actually vanishes because you have no standard by which to say God is evil or anything else is evil.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a very good point. Right. You have any, You have a question for, brother?
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, Frank, I was just. While you were talking, it was thinking back to my college days back in the Neanderthal era. This is a long time ago. I was a student for a year at the University of Missouri, and this, this young guy named, Josh McDowell, who I did not know, came through the University of Missouri, and they're talking about Columbia. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The main campus there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And it was sponsored by Campus Crusade. And I didn't. This was even before he wrote evidence that demands a verdict. And he got up and gave, this 60 minute talk. A lot of it was about the reality of the resurrection. And I remember him going into the stone and the size of the stone and the seal, and when he took questions, there were a lot of questions about, you know, could the resurrection really be true and did it really happen? I guess what I'm hearing you say is that those kinds of questions have changed from the question of the reliability of the Bible and the truth of resurrection to morality, morality, morality. What has changed in the last half century from that kind of question to what you're dealing with now?
>> Dave Williams: I think people are more concerned about themselves and how they live. They would rather, just live the way they want to live. That's why I always ask the question, if they're not a Christian, I'll ask them, if Christianity were true, would you become a Christian? And many times if they're honest, they'll say, no, no, I don't care. I, don't care if it's true. I want to do my own thing. Essentially, you see, they're not really on a truth quest or on a happiness quest, and they're just going to believe whatever they think is going to make them happy. Here's the problem. You can make yourself happy over the short term doing a lot of fun, but also ultimately sinful and destructive things, yet over the long term, it's a disaster. You just can't live that way very long and not, and you know, and come out unscathed. You know, if you just live for yourself and follow every impulse you have, you're going to wind up divorced, addicted, broken, alone, and probably prematurely dead. So I always ask them, if it were true, would you become a Christian? because so much of the resistance to God is really what's keeping them out. They want to be God over their own lives. In other words, they're not interested in submitting to the truth. They only want to submit to what they want to do. And that is becoming more and more prevalent over the past couple of decades.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is there a sense, Frank, in which they're saying something like this, look, look, if it's Josh McDowell, I don't really care. I'm not interested in that resurrection stuff. I don't even care about that. I want to sleep with my girlfriend.
>> Dave Williams: Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. if they're honest, that's what they'll say. And look, it affects all of us. I mean, there are things that are inconvenient about Christianity. You mean I got to take up my cross and follow you? I got to deny myself? In fact, I've noticed that Jesus was not only not seeker friendly, he was not even disciple friendly. In Jon chapter six, he drives off his disciples.
>> Dave Williams: You know, he says to them, does this offend you? And they're like, oh, yeah, it does. He goes, oh, I'm sorry if you don't like those principles, I'll have other principles that are more attractive to you? No, he didn't say that. He lets him go and he says to Peter, are you going to leave too? And Peter, in a rare moment of clarity, you know, normally he stuck his foot in his mouth, but at this point he said, hey, no, we're not going to go anywhere. Lord, you have the keys to eternal life. Where else are we going to go? So yeah, it's tragic too, because many of our churches are so seeker centered that they're not preaching the truth. They're trying to coax people into a worldview that really isn't true. It's not all about you.
The question is, am I going to serve the flesh or the Lord
It's not all about self fulfillment. It's not all about you get to do what you want to do. It's all about surrendering your will to the Lord. And that's hard to do.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that's what it is. That's, that's what you just described is, am I going to be my own God or am I going to. As the Lord going to be the God, is the Lord going to be God? And that's the decision that people have to make when they're confronted with it. That's why Frank goes to these college campuses to present the evidence and then to say, hey, who are you going to serve? and the temptation always with our, even us as believers, we understand is okay, am I going to serve the flesh, or am I going to serve the Lord?
>> Tim Wildmon: I think, when you say morality, morality, morality, that is the objection that people have just what you and Ray have described. And that is people do not want to anyone telling them how they should behave, how they should live, how they should think, what they should do. They don't even want God telling them that. That's right. Really?
>> Dave Williams: How often, how often do we as kids say, you're not the boss of me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Right, right.
Cross Examined will have a live stream tonight from UT Knoxville
All right, Frank, we're gonna let you go, buddy. We know you're on the phone, you're traveling, you're going to Knoxville, UT Knoxville tonight. tell us again, a lot of people may want to join you on the live stream on your website who can't physically be. I know you got the, you do have the physical place you're going to be on your website, but you also have the live stream. Go ahead and get that again.
>> Dave Williams: Yeah, the Cross Examined YouTube channel. Two words, Cross Examined. It'll be 8pm Eastern, 7 Central tonight, from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. If anyone's near Knoxville and they Want to attend? They can if they go to our website, cross examined dot org. They'll see where it is. And, we're taking questions, too. It'll be myself and Elisa Childers, who wrote the book Another Gospel. so she'll be with me and we'll take questions.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Frank, Safe travels. Take care. Talk to you next time.
>> Dave Williams: Hey, God bless you guys. See it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Bye.
>> Dave Williams: Bye.
Tim Ferriss: I highly recommend Dr. Frank Turek's events
>> Tim Wildmon: That's our friend, Dr. Frank Turek.
>> Chris Woodward: I cannot recommend enough his events. I went to his event at the University of Mississippi, also known as Ole Miss, a month or so ago, six weeks, whatever. and so, you know, even if you have been a student of the Bible, you've listened to exploring the Word, you're on a first name basis with all kinds of people here. Like, don't think, ah, you know, that's, that's for other people to watch. Like, I would highly recommend everybody watch Frank's event.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can learn a lot and learn a lot.
>> Chris Woodward: I sure did. And that, that will help you engage with somebody. Like in this case, the lady who almost, you know, abandon the faith. It'll help you in those kinds of moments.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Tim, I've been waiting to say this for a while. A few months ago, I was, doing sermon research, which means, Fred. I was surfing the Internet and up on my phone popped, this presentation from Wright State University. I really don't even know where that is.
>> Chris Woodward: Ohio.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ohio.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I didn't know that. And it was a live stream of Frank Turek, doing what he's going to do tonight at Knoxville. Okay. I watched that. My jaw dropped. Because, first of all, brilliant presentation. There are hundreds of students there. But then he did the most amazing thing. He said, you got any questions, just line up. there were no. He didn't put any preconditions on it. He didn't say, write it down or, or screen. It will take all comers. It doesn't matter. And they asked some easy ones and they asked some head scratchers and they asked some trick questions, and Frank took them all and answered them all beautifully. then a few months later, after the Charlie Kirk assassination, he was at another place, some university down in Texas, and did the same thing. And the questions were even more personal and deep at that point. God has given Frank an amazing gift of speaking to this generation, folks. That's my way of saying, if you can go do it. I said, go to an event, but a lot of us can't. He livestreams all of them and you can watch him doing his thing. It's amazing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, absolutely. Dr. Frank Turk. Can we just, command our brother and pray for him because, you know, he's. He's trying to witness for the Lord in a hostile environment.
>> Fred Jackson: Sure, sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he, said he's had occasion where, well, he saw one of his good friends, Charlie Kirk, you know, assassinated right in front of 20ft from where he was.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Frank was out there in Utah when this happened. Most of our listeners know that. Just, I say 20ft, I don't know exactly how far, but he wasn't far away from the stage, when this happened. He. And, he was in the car that took Charlie Kirk to the hospital, and, you know, sadly, he died. but Frank, went through all that on that day and, you know, had an effect on him. Yeah, obviously, as it. As it. As it would. Anybody.
King Charles and Queen Camilla leaving for Bermuda on Wednesday
All right, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. So, you're telling me the King Charles and Queen Camilla. Camilla. this is their last day?
>> Fred Jackson: It is their last day. They're gonna board a plane very shortly. they'll head east, but they're going to make a stopover in Bermuda on the way home.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they went to Washington, D.C. and then they went to NewSong York City, and then went back to, the nation's capital, Arlington National Cemetery. so that's how they're not going to see any more of, huh? no, they're not going to Knoxville.
>> Chris Woodward: No, no, they should all. Frank. They should go see Frank if they
>> Tim Wildmon: really want to see, I know, NewSong York and D.C. or, you know, that's part of our country, but there's a whole lot more out there that I wish the King and Queen would experience. Maybe go to a barbecue joint in Memphis or something like that.
>> Fred Jackson: There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying?
>> Chris Woodward: Go get some. Some dry, rub on some ribs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I'd like to see the King of England with his hands, greasy when you listen, eating some barbecue ribs.
>> Fred Jackson: When it comes to royal protocol.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's not going to happen.
>> Fred Jackson: That's not going to happen.
>> Tim Wildmon: I want to see the King eating some ribs. You know, bring him to Kansas City. We got ribs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Our ribs. Go to Kansas City. Memphis, Kansas City.
>> Chris Woodward: Send him to Pittsburgh. He'll, like, shake a terrible towel. you know, go Steelers, maybe catch it. Maybe catch a Boston Bruins game with Ed.
>> Tim Wildmon: He could be our diplomat, but he's going to Bermuda. Bermuda, is the British territory, okay? It's an island. m. Is it an island or islands?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, it's several hundred miles.
>> Tim Wildmon: My brother lived there for a while.
>> Tim Wildmon: Really?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He was part of the royal family. Okay. Had, a place there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, anyway, years ago, my brother did live there, like a year or two. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: It's a little speckled in the ocean.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. It's, out. It's out. If you go, Probably, off. If you were to, I don't know exactly, but if you go off the Outer Banks of North Carolina and you went straight, as it were, you're going to run into Bermuda, in about. Probably 500 miles, I'm guessing, something.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. It's parked out there in the Gulf Stream. That's why it's kind of tropical.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's tropical. Even though it's, as I say on plane, probably with the central part of the continental United States.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, so they're stopping in Bermuda. I didn't realize it was a British. British territory. Territory.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. What were you gonna say, Krish?
>> Chris Woodward: Years ago, when we were across the street in the old studio, we had somebody on that was like the former ambassador to the Bahamas. And he had written a book. It was faith based. He was a great man of God.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you asked him, how can I get that job?
>> Chris Woodward: No, no, no, no. I remember it, and I still laugh about it because, you know, he mentioned, I'm the former ambassador to the Bahamas. And you said, thank you for your service.
>> Fred Jackson: It must be tough.
>> Tim Wildmon: 1. One time I was at, We had a, This is 25 years ago, we had a guy come through town and he came to see us. He had, And he had, He had a m. He. He seriously. He had a professional. He had a ministry like Campus Crusade or something like that to, professional golfers and their. And their families and caddies. That's what he did. He was kind of a. Okay, ambassador or whatever like that. But I went to. So, he was here, but I took him to my church. And, it was a Wednesday night and had about 100, 200 people there.
Chris: Herschel Walker is the current U.S. ambassador to the Bahamas
And I. I didn't know him that well, and I really didn't know how to describe exactly what he did. So I got up in front of everybody and said, I want to. This, whatever his name was. Jack. Jack's in town. He wanted to speak. Five minutes, tell y' all what he does. And. And I said, so, y' all welcome. Jack. he has a golf ministry and the whole place Just bursted out laughing.
>> Tim Wildmon: and I was a little bit embarrassed because he had a serious. He was seriously trying to minister to these.
>> Tim Wildmon: But when you say golf ministry, it's it, right? It sounds like beach ministry. I got a beach ministry.
>> Tim Wildmon: Beach ministry.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna hang out at the beach, y'. All. It doesn't sound legit is what I'm saying. And so. But I couldn't take it back and you know, everybody started. Maybe we never did talk. But golf. He has a ministry to people in the golf profession. That would have been a better way to, introduce him. Right? Yeah. So you said, you said Bermuda.
>> Chris Woodward: the Bahamas.
>> Tim Wildmon: So your ambassador to the Bahamas.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And actually, if anybody's curious, I googled this. Herschel Walker is the current U.S. ambassador to the Bahamas.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're not serious.
>> Dave Williams: No.
>> Chris Woodward: He was confirmed by the Senate and sworn in. I'm looking at the US Embassy in the Bahamas.
>> Tim Wildmon: Make that up to. That has to be true. Yeah, has to be true.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I bet the. I bet our ambassador to Iran wish he had that.
>> Chris Woodward: I mean, like, you know, I'd love to be the guy that like, you know, the ambassador to Ireland or something like that would be awesome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ambassador. Just don't make me ambassadors. Some hostile country.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or I don't even know if we have an ambassador to Iran. If we do, he there no more.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: So to speak.
>> Chris Woodward: That's where a president like sends people that maybe are challenging him or might run against him in a future. You know, I'm going to send you to some so kind of thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issue. What's your next story, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: All right, well, let's, let's do a robots story. here.
>> Tim Wildmon: time for a robot story.
Some countries are employing robots to work at airports to handle baggage
>> Chris Woodward: It is time for a robot story. there has obviously been a substantial increase in the amount of artificial intelligence out there. And some countries, even Japan, are apparently now employing and deploying robots to work at airports to handle baggage.
>> Tim Wildmon: I sent this story around. Did you see this?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yes. I'm going to post it for you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Post it for our listeners.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, it's very.
>> Tim Wildmon: On our Facebook page.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. If anybody saw the iRobot movie and if you didn't, that's okay. But it was a, Will Smith movie set far into the future and robots and taken over. It looks like one of those robots.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So let me describe this.
>> Fred Jackson: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: But you're going to put that video up on our today's issues face.
Robots may take over many jobs within the next 10 to 20 years
Doing it right now, okay, so I was reading this story last night, and Japanese, a Japanese airline, maybe the major Japanese airline, I think. And you know how you go, you land at airport and you look out the window and you see all the people running around putting luggage on planes, conveyor belts and trucks going around. Well, they had robots doing this job, and it was like you. And it was. Fred, it was, it was serious. They were really putting your luggage up on now. They were, they were doing like humans. They were slamming it on the ground, you know.
>> Dave Williams: Right.
>> Chris Woodward: Need to go on strike.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But. But I was thinking to myself, you know, what if I'm an airport worker? you know, this may be the future. The robots may take over your jobs.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. I wonder what the union representing those workers is feeling about this.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know, because the video
>> Fred Jackson: shows them, like pushing a container, you know, because now a lot of planes, they, they put the luggage in a big container and then they put that in the belly of the airplane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. These are robots with arms and legs.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're designed. Ray, did you see this? They're designed like a human. Yes. So.
>> Chris Woodward: And then it waves. It waves goodbye.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't, I don't really know what to make of all this, robotics and computer generated technology and AI. I know a lot of us don't know what to think about it. I don't know what to make about it fully, because when you, you have people like you, people like Elon Musk, whatever you think of Elon Musk, guys, very bright. Okay. I think we can all agree to that. Very smart. And he has an eye on the future, Ray. And he's talking about, I basically taken over the work of the world. Have you seen this?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And like, I don't know how many years from now, but within our. Within the next 10 to 20, he's saying so many jobs will be replaced by AI. So I don't, I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pretty soon, talk show hosts are going to be going to be replaced by. Tim, do you think you and I could be replaced by robots?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word. that would.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, there's. There's already, things possible. There are news agencies that are using, AI as anchors.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: For newscasts and that sort of thing. So.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So there's your future, right, Chris?
>> Tim Wildmon: There's our future right there, guys.
>> Chris Woodward: We watched, we watched a video several years ago, maybe not long after Steve started here. Steve's been here 10 years. And, but it was a YouTube news thing where they were already using a robot voice to, like, anchor the news. And it was funny because, you know, sometimes when you read an article, it'll say, like, senator. This is back when Ben Sasse was the senator. Senator Ben Sasse. parentheses are Nebraska. Right. And, so, like, the robot couldn't tell the difference. And it had Nebraska abbreviated, so it said Senator Ben Sasse, our neb. And it kept going on. So they're not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't know.
>> Fred Jackson: well, Mike Rowe. People know him from the Dirty Jobs show.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mike Rowe.
>> Fred Jackson: Mike Rowe, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Row. Yeah, I know him. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he's been a big advocate now for, there are jobs that robots can't do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: So jobs that, you know, you have to get down there and clean the manholes and.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the name of Dirty Jobs? Name of his show, Dirty Jobs.
>> Fred Jackson: That's one of the shows he does. He narrates some other shows as well, but he says there's a bunch of jobs out there, like, there's, you know, welding jobs and those sorts of things that, you know, there's.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got to go to the house and do it or you got to go to. Yeah. Technical, what do you call those jobs were. Hands on.
>> Fred Jackson: Hands on jobs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hands on jobs.
>> Fred Jackson: And he says that's where the future is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So the robots won't take those jobs.
People are deciding not to go to college when they can go to trade school
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, you read about people. The college degrees don't matter as much anymore as they used to because people are figuring, why do I want to go 30, 40, $50,000 in debt when I can go to a trade school.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: And. And get it. And get a degree. and make a lot more money.
>> Fred Jackson: That's right. And that's his point, potentially. That's his point.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
We might need a cat story. We got about two or three minutes left
all right. You're listening to today's issue. We got about two or three minutes left. Krish, you got anything on your left in your stack of stuff over there?
>> Chris Woodward: I do.
>> Tim Wildmon: tell me what it is. I'll tell you yes or no.
>> Chris Woodward: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I got more cat stories I can tell.
>> Chris Woodward: We might need a cat story. No, we might need a cat story.
>> Tim Wildmon: Make my Gray and Fred nervous here.
Liberal city removes anti crime signs because they're not inclusive enough
>> Fred Jackson: Well, what about the story out of Anne Arbor, Michigan about it?
>> Chris Woodward: You go for it.
>> Fred Jackson: Anne Arbor, Michigan. they had signs up, you know, anti Crime watch signs. You know, you see around Neighborhood Watch.
>> Tim Wildmon: Neighborhood Watch, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: well, in Anne Harbor, Michigan, there's a move to get rid of those signs because they're not inclusive enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: What?
>> Tim Wildmon: Get rid of the Neighborhood Watch signs.
>> Fred Jackson: Why? Why? Because it might be offensive to certain elements in the neighborhood or committing crime.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you. You're not there.
>> Fred Jackson: I am dead serious. That's the Fox News story. Liberal city removes anti crime signs. To be more inclusive, there's got to
>> Tim Wildmon: be a Babylon B headline.
>> Tim Wildmon: no. Can't make this. No take down the Neighborhood Watch signs because it might offend the criminal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Offend the bad guys.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my goodness gracious. Oh, man. That's a very liberal city right there.
>> Fred Jackson: Guess what party they represent.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Yeah. They're not. They're not conservatives, I'll tell you. Anne Arbor, Michigan, it's a college town, typical of big university cities.
>> Chris Woodward: And a law school at that university, too.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, boy, they can play basketball, but that's about it, I guess. They can't think clearly, that's for sure. those all right? Well, they play football, too, so I'll give them that. all right. We will return with, more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. thanks to Krish for this hour of news and Steve Paisley. Jordal will join us in five minutes. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
