The rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator, not our government

Jenna Ellis in the morning on American Family Radio. I love talking about the things of God because of truth and the biblical worldview. The U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect. The rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time. This is Jenna Ellis in the morning.

Jenna Fischer: Indiana's Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith stands for truth

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is Thursday, July 16, and we're starting with some good news this morning because lest your hearts be troubled at all of the news of the day and all of the negative that perpetually the mainstream media cycle hits you with and some of the topics obviously that we have to cover on this show, there are, there are very solid Christian styles still in high positions in government, in office who are there for the right reasons and are pointing to the Lord. And one of the I hope very rising stars of the GOP is Indiana's Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith. If you're not following him on X, you absolutely should. my good friend, Brock Juarez, who used to work previously with Governor DeSantis office, he just recently left, which was a tragedy. We love Brock. But, he posted Indiana has something truly special in Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith, an incredible godly leader who brings bold faith and conviction to public service. And I want you to listen to this clip, because he is, ah, formerly a, a worship pastor and a campus pastor for over 15 years. And this is just an incredible moment where he, he's preaching basically and ties all of this together. So this is cut 4 hearing

Micah Beckwith: what is happening right now. I wanted, I want you to know this too. Culture will increasingly pressure believers to remain silent. They hate it when you bear witness. They hate it when you bear witness. And we, as we just heard from Elizabeth's testimony with Micah, he was bearing witness to the truth. The truth about what? Well, the truth about faith, the truth about politics, the truth about life, the truth about everything. Truth, Truth goes into every realm. By the way, if you want to say, well, politics is over here, we shouldn't divide over politics. Yeah, you should because the truth matters. And if politics begins to push lies, the truth should testify and bear witness to what God has said, not what man has said. And so this is what is going to happen. No matter where you are in your business. It's going to be the same way in your community. It's going to be the same way in a World full of lies. The truth is increasingly hated. Right. And we're seeing that in today's culture. So take note. This happened to Jesus, this happened to the followers, the disciples. That, that laid the groundwork for the church throughout all of church early history. It's going to happen to you, too. Just consider it all. Joy. When people mock you, they persecute you, they begin to. They begin to pressure you. That should be the moment when you celebrate, say, look what we get to do for the truth. Look what we get to do for God himself. Right?

Micah Beckwith: We get to actually bear witness. How cool is that? You are living in the shoes of Jesus when you bear witness, and people hate you for it.

Jenna Ellis: This is amazing. You think you're listening to a preacher, and you are, but this is actually also the Lieutenant Governor of Indiana, and we, are so blessed to have him join us this morning. So, Lieutenant Governor Beckwith, thank you so much for your bold witness and, it's incredible that you're in this position. So, give us some encouragement about how Christians need to be bold and politics and not worry about the divisiveness and, you know, the unifying and all of this sort of nonsense of the Uni Party, but actually just stand boldly for the truth. And thank you for standing boldly for the truth.

Micah Beckwith: Well, thank you, Jenna. It's so good to be on with you. And I, appreciate your. Your boldness and declaring what God has said. Right. It's truth, matters, because when people know the truth, like Jon 8:32 says, they will know the truth, and the truth will set them free. And if we are the land of the free, right, if we are the home of the free, it is important that we, we understand that truth undergirds all of our freedoms. And so what do we need? We need people who know the truth, and then we need people who are courageously speaking the truth. I.

Micah Beckwith: For a long time, for a long time, I used to just think, okay, we could. We can elect leaders that are conservative, right? And, And. And Christian. Christian conservatives. That's what we wanted. Well, I started realizing very quickly we're missing something. If you're Christian and conservative, but you're not courageous, it doesn't matter. You won't. Nothing will happen because. Because the courage is what. Is what The. It's the fuel to the tank. And if you don't have courage to speak up, your, Your Christian conservative values, you're. You're not gonna. You're not going to change anything. And so what I've been Saying now for the last couple years is like, where are the courageous Christian conservatives? And let's get those people on the front lines speaking truth. But that's all of us.

Micah Beckwith: I mean really, ultimately, you know, God's calling each person, no matter who you are, no matter your, your walk in life, to know the truth and to courageously speak the truth. And I think it changed for me, Jenna, when I started. You know, I've been studying scripture my whole life and I look at the characters and the champions of the faith. You got Joshua, you got Peter, you got Paul, you got, you know, Deborah and David and all these, and all these warriors, right? These people that stood for God in very trying times. And I was talking to the Lord a few years ago. I told the Lord, I said, lord, I can't wait someday to walk the streets of gold and, and to talk with the Joshua's of heaven like the Joshuas and shake their hands and I'm going to ask them all the questions about the battles they went through. What was it like standing for the Lord in those moments? And the Lord just spoke to me so clearly, I'll never forget. He said, well Micah, what you don't realize is they're watching you and they're excited to see you and to shake your hand and ask you what it was like to stand for me in the 2020s, in the 2025s and the 2026. And so that changed my perspective. I was like, oh my goodness, we are that generation. We are the biblical generation declaring God's truth. And God can use anyone he wants. And it doesn't mean we're better than somebody else. It's just God chooses who he uses. But when he does choose you to use you, you're going to be somebody who's going to be a champion for truth and the great cloud of witnesses, Heaven is watching you. And that changed my perspective and that gave me a lot of courage to go into the battle and say, okay, well I get to be a Joshua for my day and praise God and all glory to him.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, amen.

Micah says Christians need to stand up with courage in politics today

And it's so true that this is our moment and we shouldn't just look at ah, the examples in scripture and the faithful cloud of witnesses that has come before and said, wow, isn't it amazing what they went through in their day, but then in our day seek instead of being courageous for the Lord and standing for truth and boldly proclaiming just wanting the comforts of freedom and liberty and the semi isolation that A lot of, frankly, evangelicals, pursued when they said, well, politics is too dirty. We don't want to kind of touch that. We just want to, go into the four walls of our churches and preach to ourselves and not really do anything that's necessarily risky. And, you know, I think of Isaiah's commission when he said, here I am, Lord, send me. I mean, that should be the prayer of every Christian. And so what is. What does it practically mean for Christians who maybe they're not seeking public office, maybe they're praying about it, and they're, you know, they're looking at you as an example who's a pastor, who's now literally on the front lines, or what does it mean in 2026 for a Christian to actually stand up with courage when politics today is not only so divisive, but, I mean, as we've seen, it's dangerous.

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, well, first, you know, Jesus said, I'm sending you out like sheep among wolves. So, yes, it's going to be dangerous. Right? God is not a safe God, but he is a Good God, as C.S. lewis so eloquently said in the Chronicles of Narnia. Right. In that, but so we got to remember, like, this isn't a. This is not for the faint of heart. You're going to follow Jesus. It's a. That's. You better, you know, gird up your loins, as the Lord told Job, right? Put on your big boy pants, right? This is a, this is. But it's. But it's worth it. And it will be. You'll have great purpose, and you'll have great legacy, and you'll have. You'll have great success, and rewards will be. People will know the truth. And. And so. So just understand if you want to do that. I tell people say, hey, I want you to get saved. I want you to know the Lord. But don't think you're coming into a squishy comfort, you know, just, the comfortable life that you can now just sit back and coast to heaven. That's not what following Christ is about. So you've got a job to do, on this side of eternity. And so that's. That's the first thing I say. But. But then the Lord also showed me this picture of a. Of a spear. I mean, I. Because people ask me, they say, well, what can we do, Micah? How can we get involved? I don't particularly want to run for office. I'm not like you. I don't like being the tip of the spear. And the Lord gave me this vision once. He said, mike, everybody plays a role in what. What. What I'm doing, what I'm doing to build the church. This is what the Lord was telling me. He said, you're the tip of the spear, Micah. I made you to be that. You know, go into the. You're the point. That. That goes into the heart of the lies, right? And that's my. That's my jam. I love it. You said, you throw me into a room of 50, communist, atheists, anti American, you know, people. And I love it. I love being in that room, you know, debating truth and, and debating philosophy and politics. But some people, that's not their jam, and that's okay. But then he said. He said, look at this. Look at the shaft that's connected to the spear, the tip of the spear. That.

Micah Beckwith: That shaft gives it the strength. He said, those are the people I've given the gift of encouragement to because they need to encourage those who are the tips of the spear.

Micah Beckwith: Because if you're the tip of the spear, but you have no, no encouragement, you get really beat down. You get really this disheartened. And so those people need to do their job and use their gift of encouragement. And then he said, look at the rope that holds the tip of the spear onto the shaft. He said, those are the people I've given with the power of intercessory prayer. That's holding it all together. Those are the people that are constantly praying. And I get messages all the time from people that say, hey, we're praying for you. I've got you on my prayer list. And that's so, so important. And then he said, and look at the money that it took to build this sphere. Those are the people I've. I bless with wealth, and they use their wealth to fund the building of the spirit. And then he showed me a hand picking up the spirit. He said, that's my hand, Micah. I throw that spear in the battle where I want it. It goes exactly where I intend it to go. but it takes everybody. So where are you in that picture? That's why I tell people. So you may not be the tip of the spear. That's okay. But maybe you've got the gift of encouragement. Well, find people who are the tips of the spear. Find the Jenna Ellis's or the Micah Beckwiths of the world and text them and call them or, you know, say, hey, we're so.

Keep doing what you're doing that goes a million miles in the hearts

We're so thankful for you. Keep doing what you're doing that goes a million miles in the hearts of people who are the tips of the spirit. Trust me, I know that personally. maybe you're a prayer warrior. Pray, pray. Don't cease praying. Or maybe maybe you're funding the mission, like, give generously. So that's, you know, there's, there's something in that for all of us right there. And so you just gotta ask, lord, Lord, what do you, what are you calling me to do? And then do what he's called you to do.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is what the Apostle Paul was talking about with, being the body of Christ. And not everyone has the same gift. Some are the hands, some are the feet. You know, some we're all, different in. And we are all made with unique gifts and talents before the Lord. And we need to figure out what those are and then exercise them in the context of the full body of Christ. And I completely echo what, you're saying, Lieutenant Governor Beckwith, that it is so encouraging when people reach out and say that they are praying for me. And I hear that encouragement. And I feel like what I do in ministry every day is not just returning void and, and that it's not just speaking out, you know, into the void. But, but people are actually encouraged by that and they understand, the work that we're all doing together to advance the truth of the gospel of Christ. And so, you know, as people are listening to this and hopefully being encouraged, to be part of an active part of the body of Christ and actually be useful.

How should the Christian prepare for the battle as well

How much of this as well for the Christian about preparation for the battle as well. And, you know, you mentioned loving to be in that room and like, debating ideas and all of that. Well, you have to have a knowledge of the things of Christ before going into that room. how, how should the Christian prepare?

Micah Beckwith: Well, great question. So, don't study like you're, you're passing a quiz or a test, right? This isn't. You don't study God's word to be like, to just get through a quiz. You study God's word because you want it to be living and breathing inside of you. You want it to just ooze out of you when, when it's needed. Right? So I, I, it's crazy. I'll tell you this, and I'm not saying this to brag, so please don't take it this way, but I don't prepare when I get up and I speak or I do town halls or, you know, I'll do A. My staff will tell you in the Lieutenant Governor's office, they've tried to write me, write me speeches, and I don't use them. I just say, who am I speaking to? And what are we? What am I speaking about? And then they'll tell me. I'll say, okay. And as I'm walking up, the Lord will always put something into my heart or into my mind and say, hey, go this direction. And it will always be coupled with history, with American history, the greatness of who we are, but also with God's Word. And that's where. And I never understood the passage where the Lord was telling the disciples, don't worry about, what you're going to say. You're going to come before kings and queens. You're going to come before leaders. I'm going to, through the Holy Spirit, I will give you the words to say, right? Just open your mouth and let them come. And, and what. I never understood that until I got into this role. And what it, what I found was, it's. It's not that you don't prepare. You've been preparing your whole life. You've been preparing with what you know about the world, what you know about your country, what you know about the Word. And then, then when you get in those places and you see you're standing face to face with somebody that demands an answer. That, that word that you maybe studied in church or in Sunday school or in your, Your personal devotions, it'll come back to you. But, oh, yeah, there's a passage in Scripture that says this, and this is the truth because God said it. And so that's what you do. I mean, that's that. So, so dive into the scriptures every single day. Absolutely, because that's the, that's the foundation of God's Word, and his truth is in that. And, and then just be ready, like, say, okay, hey, I got. Prepare me for. For what I'm going to be, doing today. And when I get in the rooms where I need to recall your truth, let that truth come back to me. And it will. I promise you it will. God's Word said it. It doesn't return void. And so that's how you prepare. Just, Just be a student of God's truth. And, it means everywhere. So if you're in business, understand your business, understand the industry, do the research, study it, know God's Word and how it interacts with the industry. And then when you, when you go into boardrooms, that. That's going to come back. You don't have to, you don't have to study like you're passing a test. It'll come back to you. The word will come back, say, hey, this is what we should do in our business. Because I know God's word says this, therefore it's true, and it's going to produce much blessing. So that's how I do it. And it's worked really well. And, that's how I. And that it works well because God's word said it. So, it's the perfect way to study and prepare. and you'll see great rewards and great blessings that will come, to your community if you, if you do it that way.

Jenna Ellis: So, yeah. Amen. And you know, it is a study of God's word and also a relationship with Him. And you know, I always say that, that when you really know someone and you've been in a relationship with, you know, your spouse or your kids or your parents for, you know, 30, 40 years, you know them and their character, and you can make predictions about what they'll think and their behavior and their character based on your knowledge and that relationship of them. And God, thankfully, is not unpredict like so many, humans that, you know, sometimes still my parents surprise me, right. But, but God is always consistent and His Word is true, and we can always rely on that. And so if we know God himself and his character, then we will know and, and have that knowledge of what he wants, because we know Him. And that relationship is so important. I mean, it's not just a study of theology, like you know, these dusty books that we, that we crack open. I mean, this is a, a living God who is daily interacting with us. And so, you know, as you are in a position now of power and in government, how do you take that and translate your knowledge of God and His character into, your daily political decisions?

Micah Beckwith: Well, it's great, great question. So, you know, it looks, it manifests itself differently every day based on the challenges of. And I, People will ask me, they'll say, how can we pray for you, Lieutenant Governor? I said, well, just pray that God gives me wisdom and knowledge like, like he gave to Solomon. Because I frankly don't know what tomorrow holds. But I will. But I do know that God is already there and he. And he has the answer for all the challenges. I'm going to tell you, being in government, there's a whole lot of challenges, even at state government, you know, every level of government, there's challenges and there's Always problems. And there's always people who are, you know, trying to find the solution for a problem in their life. And so it sometimes can be very complicated. But, as the Lieutenant Governor, in Indiana, I'm also the Secretary of Agriculture and I also oversee the office, of Community and Rural affairs, which is basically small town Indiana, making sure it's thriving economically. So I'll give you an example when, one of the challenges that we've seen in agriculture and small town Indiana has been the, just this kind of, this economic trade war that we're in with China, right now because, you know, they bought a lot of our grain and they, they, they were basically becoming a monopoly of our, of our grain, exports. And so when they, when they went to economic war, and I think it was the right thing to do, I praise President Trump for doing that because China is a huge adversary. but, but it hurt our farmers. And so, you know, I'm sitting there, Lord, what do we do? How do we, how do we still give our farmers a way to sell their grain? because they, they need to. If they don't, they're going to go out of business. They're going to, their families are going to suffer. And in all of that, the Lord began to open up different trade, Trade routes, right?

Indiana secured trade deals with Taiwan to offset what China wasn't buying

Different ideas to get different, you know, strategic strategy that was like saying, hey, go talk to this person. Because they could open up these doors, these trade, trade routes. And, and one of the trade routes that we were able to, secure was, ah, Taiwan. We did a $6.2 billion trade deal with Taiwan to buy Hoosier grain, from our farmers, in Indiana, which was huge and helped to offset what China wasn't buying. and it was just, that's one specific example of like, lord, we need some doors to open up here or else, it's going to go real bad for our farmers. And he did right, and he caused the relationships to happen. And, and good things came from that. So that's like one practical way, like, you know, that there was a problem and said, lord, where do we go? And here we, there was another trade route. The Lord made a way where there seemed to be no way. And that's kind of every day, right? There's always going to be problems like that and it's going to look impossible. But I will tell you this. There's, you know, politics. God speaks a whole lot about politics. And we need to go into his word to to find it. And if we think that he doesn't speak truth on, on government and how we should do it, then you just don't know his word. So.

Jenna Ellis: Amen. Well, thank you so much, Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith. And don't you wish every politician and person in government power would speak as clearly and boldly for the truth? Follow him on X. Pray for him. And we will be right back with more.

Jenna Ellis: Christians need to stand for truth in today's news

Welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, speaking of standing for truth, we need to always be able as Christians to rightly divide truth from error. And that starts with a fundamental knowledge of the things of God. And that's why we need to be daily in our Bibles. We need to know the word of God. We need to know his character. And I think Lieutenant Governor Beckwith was also very, very correct that you also need to know what's going on in our culture and in society. That's why, AFR and shows like this one are so important and why we cover the news of the day. Because you need to be aware of what's going on and also the opinions on all sides of it so that you can know who to listen to. And if, those opinions are accurate on the news of the day. And you know, when you flip on a mainstream media channel, just be aware that those voices aren't necessarily always coming from specifically a distinctly Christian biblical perspective. you know, we all know the mainstream networks that are basically the PR voice of the RNC or the dnc, and those are their perspectives. And we as Christians always want to have our worldview lens on to look at news and issues of the day through truth and the biblical worldview. And, our good friend Troy Miller, who is, the president of the National Religious Broadcasters, the nrb, had a really good, piece and commentary in nrb.org that confusion has become a weapon. And he talks about this amidst the information war going on with Israel. And he joins us now. And, Troy Miller, you said it's important for Christians to understand that, that we're in this global battle together for the Judeo Christian worldview versus a progressive, secular, socialist worldview. Israel and the US Are closer tied to that fight than anyone else around the world.

Troy Miller: Good morning, Jenna. Thanks for having me on today. And that's exactly right. And you said it so well in your opening there. It is so important for us as Christians to, first of all, to be in the Bible and understand what it means to have a Christian worldview and what that Christian worldview holds and then to also understand what's going on in the world and what's at stake. when we listen to the news and we listen to these, different sources because there is a lot of confusion being sown out there. It's almost as if this is a, ah, weapon. You know, the Bible talks about bearing false witness. we have these false witnesses out there. They've created so much confusion that people often tune out because they don't think anything is the truth. but thank goodness, Jenna, your program and others, NRB members are out there, helping people understand and how to read the culture and to read the news today.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, absolutely. And you know, this is why, I unfortunately also read all of the leftist propaganda, you know, including HuffPost and Axios and all of these things. And sometimes I quote them on this show as well for that perspective. So that we can say, okay, what are the headlines that they are, putting out into the world? What are the voices that they're amplifying so that we can talk about it and we can say, you know, where they're, they're wrong, where that worldview is not in line with Scripture. And so much right now, even on the right, is confusion over the United States, relationship with Israel in particular. And, and this is kind of a, a out of left field, you know, I mean, pun intended, that this is such a divisive point right now among the right. How do we as Christians, you know, filter through that confusion to the truth?

Troy Miller: I think we have to step back and, and take a look at the big picture first. I think sometimes we get into these sort of microcosm, you know, fights, and debates. And Israel's kind of one of those that has pulled us in. And we have to really step back and understand that first of all, the west, the foundation of the west and the Western society, Western culture, capitalism, m. The idea of freedom of conscience, the idea of property ownership, all of these issues that all of these virtues and these values that we hold in the Western did come from Judeo Christian, thought they came from the scriptures. That's what our forefathers really pulled that on. And we really have a fight today. If you boil it down between that, that Christian, Judeo Christian foundation that believes that God is the Creator, believes that family is important, believes that individuals have the right of conscience to make decisions and not the state. All of these issues, sexuality, marriage, are all defined in our worldview. And opposing that is this secular humanist, we call it progressive worldview that has leaned lately a lot more socialists. And when socialists don't get their way they become communist because they become dictators in that. And that's what's being fought out. And you have to get the bigger picture of what's the microcosm of the Israel fight and the Jewish fight here. It's to separate that, to not understand that that's the big fight. Secular humanism versus a God centered culture.

There's an attempt to divorce Christianity from the Old Testament scriptures

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so well said. And you know there's this, there's this attempt from some self proclaimed Christians on the right that somehow the Old Testament doesn't matter and the Judeo part of Judeo Christian doesn't matter. And it's this attempt to divorce Christ himself from Judaism which he's the direct fulfillment of the Old Testament scriptures. You can't understand what Christ came to save us from if we don't understand in the beginning God and Genesis and everything that came after that in the full council of God. And it's a very sinister way to isolate just the NewSong Testament and basically build a different and distinct doctrine to suggest that Christianity is only about 2000 years old. And well yes there is secular Judaism now that is not built on the foreshadowing and the anticipation of the Messiah and then ultimately the fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ. that distinction is, is not what the Bible is talking about and what we are talking about when we say the Judeo Christian worldview. And that I think is one of the most dangerous ideologies that's being promulgated across a lot of the rights platforms right now.

Troy Miller: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. it really is being pushed but look our enemy, his goal is always to divide, divide, divide, divide. And you know this reaction on the far right, this, the right platform against Israel is also you know a part of this, this whole kind of you know, kinism racism movement that's going into that far right as well. It's the rejection, it's a backlash of the Obama era where being white was created as the target and as the perpetrators. And so you push this, this agenda was pushed to divide you know the conservative movement and now to divide the Christian movement on Israel. And as you said we pull the whole foundation out of Christianity if we disconnect it from the Old Testament. Look, we get there's no principle in the NewSong Testament other than Jesus of Nazareth being the Christ, being the Messiah and the fulfillment of all the Old Testament law. There's nothing in the NewSong Testament that contradicts the Old Testament. Matter of fact, Jesus himself pulled on all of those principles from the Old Testament, including the two major commandments. Love the Lord your God with your whole heart, soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself. You said all of those commandments. And we're, it's. The left is so good at trying to divide us and we just, we have to push back and reject that and and see it for what it is. It's an attempt to divide.

Jenna Ellis: Yes, yes. And that attempt to divide, I think is going to be, ah, prominently displayed in 2028. we're not seeing, seeing that quite as much. I think we're kind of at the, the threshold and, and kind of the rise of that heading into the midterms. But especially, you know, when we look at, some of these responses to President Trump's foreign policy. And so you, went to Israel recently, and I'm looking at a great picture of you with Ambassador Mike Huckabee. And you know, when you talk about confusion has become a weapon amidst the information war, what do you think has been the most confusing and that we need to rightly divide truth from error for Americans to understand and also your perception of what, Israel understands?

Troy Miller: Well, I think the biggest thing again is this issue that there's somehow, a, disconnect between the modern Western church and Judaism. I just came back. After I came back from Israel, I was in Pennsylvania. I spoke at the largest Jewish believers conference that's, held anywhere. And there are, you know, literally thousands of Jewish, believers, that's believers in Christ around the world. and you know, Scripture is clear. Jon tells us In Jon chapter 10, you know, Jesus says, I only have one flock, you know, and that's the original, root, the flock of the Jewish people and the grafted in gen tiles of one flock. But we are. The biggest confusion is that we're not in this fight together. And it's a global fight. One of the things that we really were able to do over there was to talk a lot to different NGOs, government entities and folks about what's going on with global Christian persecution in Nigeria, in Chad and across Africa, India and really around the world. And that this is a joint fight. And I think that message, really resonated and we had just a great amount of support from the, different entities in Israel that we're in this fight together. Jewish, hate, anti Semitism and Christian hate, Christian persecution are tied together at the hip and we win it together. We don't win it separately.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. Amen.

British government rejects visa for Finnish Christian convicted of hate speech for citing Bible

And you know, and speaking of that, there was also a headline in the Daily Signal that the British government rejects the travel visa for Finnish Christian convicted of hate speech for citing the Bible. And when you're talking about, you know, we have to all be in this together and recognize how the, the foundational liberties are being abused across the world right now, you know, this, this headline is really serious.

Troy Miller: It's, it's extremely serious and extremely troubling because we in America should look at what's going on in continental Europe and in Britain today. the attack on, specifically this is attack on Christianity. This is not an attack on hate speech. this is only about Christian hate speech. imams across England can say the most vile things about Christians and Christianity and the indigenous British population and not even get a peep in the British news or certainly a peep in the British, legal system at all. But if a Christian stands up for what they believe, then suddenly a Christian has hate speech. And there's a lot of talk, Jenna, here in America, amongst the progressive, here, that these kinds of laws, these kinds of things should be held in the US and that the First Amendment, our right of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, free exercise, freedom of assembly, freedom to address the petition, the government that, that's antiquated and needs to go away, that doesn't fit the modern world. This should send shockwaves through the Christian community and the conservative community here in America.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, you are so spot on when you say this is not about hate speech. This is a targeted attempt at some specifically targeting Christianity. And we're seeing that more and more under the auspices of, you know, these other so called crimes that really, it's just trying to oust not just the Christian worldview from government, but use government power to attack Christians for simply exercising their liberty, in the context of being Christians in society. And you know, that is a tale as old as time and we've always seen throughout world history, ah, government coming after Christians. And you know, the devil never cares which lie you believe as long as you don't believe the truth. And for the British government to become more and more, not just secular, not just Muslim, but specifically anti Christian, that is a huge danger to the, the west. And I think the fight for the west and the Judeo Christian premise of civil government and protecting our rights, this is literally what's at stake here, in the battle for the West

Troy Miller: Amen, Jenny. You said it so well. That's exactly what's at stake for us. It is a battle of, which worldview is going to dominate and govern, the people here. And that's what people have to step back. How much as our Christian, responsibility, our stewardship of what God has given us to be able to select who governs us as a people who governs our neighbor, how much more loving could you do than have people who believe in the gospel and the morals and values that we hold that made this country great? that's what we need to prioritize, and that's what we need to fight for.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, and this just goes Back to what Lt. Governor Beckwith was saying and Trey Miller, what you've been saying, what I preach every day on this network, that we need to be grounded in a knowledge of truth, because too often Christians will say and almost give up, you know, this, this idea of what our First Amendment here in this country actually protects. And of course, that's, even if we didn't have the First Amendment, our government is still obligated to protect everything that is specifically enumerated in that amendment and in that text of, our Constitution, that our government is obligated to preserve and protect the rights that come from God, our Creator. And that has always been at the very heart and the foundation of the west, to understand that liberty comes from God and that we have to look at him as the sole authority. And so, you know, NRB does such a great job on a daily basis of ensuring that we can teach these principles and we can instill a knowledge of truth in our audiences, to encourage them to have an appropriate, proper biblical view of government and to stand up with courage and fight for all these things. So I really appreciate all the work that you do. Troy Miller, thanks so much for coming on this morning. We'll be right back with more here on Jenna Ellis in the Morning. Sam. Foreign.

Jenna Ellis: Christian education is important for young people when applying for colleges

welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, speaking of a knowledge of God and how we need to be daily in our word, we need to be knowing what's going around us. And, you know, this theme of this, of this program, which should be the theme, frankly, of our daily lives as we prepare to be a voice for truth in the world, that that starts not just when we are adults, but for the parents and the grandparents who are listening to this, or if you're, a young person who is listening to this program, it starts as early as you are, as you possibly can start understanding the world around you. And this is why I believe that homeschooling is the best possible gift to, that a parent could give their child. But the undergirding of that, the foundation is discipleship. And as, as Mike Donnelly talked about on the program yesterday when we were talking about homeschooling, really what matters, is the discipleship of parents to their children. I was talking to one of my best friends, here in Florida yesterday and her son is getting, her oldest son is getting ready, you know, to apply for colleges. And you know, kind of looking around that they were homeschool, homeschoolers for quite a long time. And you know, he's he's kind of not looking at Christian colleges. And we were talking about that and, and I said to her that I think that that's so, so sad that we have this perception or there's this perception among some young people that somehow a Christian education is not as valued in a secular society and that that somehow would diminish our ability to do what the Lord has called us to do. And I think that that's actually the wrong perspective and our perspective. And I know that this is difficult. I mean I remember and this is 20 years ago when I was applying for colleges. But I remember thinking, you know, well, what's going to be best on you know, my resume? Is this going to be the best, type of education? And kind of, you know, are people going to look at where I went to undergrad and law school as I'm you know, applying for various jobs? And and that's fair, and that's a fair contemplation. But really the question that we should be asking and young people especially as they're looking at going into colleges in particular university is where can I best grow in my knowledge of the Lord while I am also studying and preparing to do the work of ministry that he is setting me up for. And most people, you know, they don't necessarily think about their job and their work as full time ministry unless you're doing something like what I'm doing right now and actually working for a ministry or if you are full time as a church or a pastor, in a church or as a pastor, but really the work that we do every day is a ministry, for young men, like this particular young man, he will hopefully someday get married and have kids and his work, part of that ministry will be to provide for his family. So, you know, all of this goes back to the foundational biblical worldview. And I just encourage her to tell, to tell her son that, you know, you don't want to go into an environment already while you're studying and you're preparing. That is constantly daily a battle. And you know, I remember and Again, this was 20 years ago I went to Colorado State. And I remember in my ethics class in undergrad, first day, you know, we get there and this was maybe sophomore year. You know, this is like really early on. So you have a group of, you know, maybe 19, 20 year olds, in a room. And the professor framed the entire class of ethics. That's literally the title of the class. And he came in and he said, so the object of this class is not to instill a particular set of ethics and establish that as the norm or what is best, however you define that. This is for you to understand through our process over the next, you know, 16, 18 weeks, whatever it was, for you to understand what your personal ethical spectrum is like. That is such a post truth worldview. And I raised my hand, of course, you know, being the homeschooler and, and raised my hand, I was like, then why should I care about this class? Because if ethics aren't, if we don't have a standard of right and wrong, then what is the term ethic even mean? And it's totally meaningless. And think about this. If this was 20 years ago at a, you know, relatively moderate state school, I mean, you're not talking about some, some place that's like a flaming liberal university at the time. How much worse is it in today's society for our young people that are going into universities that, that regardless of their choice of study, there will be worldviews that are implicit and explicit in that curricula that are specifically designed to confront and mitigate and tear down their biblical worldview. the studies from Summit Ministries, which I've been a part of for a long time. I was a student, in, in high school, in their worldview class. And I encourage you to send your young people when they are high schoolers to get a basic overview, during their two week program at Summit Ministries, in Worldview, so that they can recognize these false worldviews when they are confronted with them and be able to stand up for truth. Because if you don't even recognize it as a threat or as falsity, then you can't confront it. but Summit has statistics from Barna and other places that talk about how many even Christian students lose their faith in the four years, roughly of college and university, more than any other time in their life. And why is that? Because I think young people just coming into adulthood are particularly vulnerable because this is really the first battle that they've ever faced. And that's probably true for a lot of homeschoolers and you know, for this particular young man, and I know him well, and he's an amazing, amazing young man of the Lord. he has probably not been in many environments where his faith would be confronted and tested in ways that he would experience. If he goes to some of these secular universities with these professors who are, you know, they, they put themselves up as sort of the, the demigod of their particular philosophy and segment of of study. And that's what you're taught, is that the professor has all knowledge and you have to conform your your final product in order to get a good grade to conform that to the professor's worldview. And that's not explicit, but that's ultimately what's expected. And so why are we sending our young people to universities just to then ultimately become products of the culture by necessity for survival? That's not, in my opinion, from a biblical worldview, that is not the best use of resources and that's not the best use of their time for four years. And I can tell you from my own personal experience, I mean I graduated from Colorado State, I got my law degree, my Juris Doctor degree from the University of Richmond, really good school. And thankfully when I went to Colorado State, I still lived at home. I was, I was actually clerking full time, ah, for a judge because I knew I wanted to go to law school. So I didn't have the same pressures in college and at a secular university that most students do. But even then, you know, as I've as substantively well versed as I was in the things of God and the knowledge of truth, in years after that I would still have to confront and basically take out the trash of some of the views that were instilled through the curriculum that I absorbed even as a Christian. And I wish that that were different. Right. and God has used that. But I can say that as a, as a professional and as someone who's been in the working world all the way up through representing a sitting President of the United States, not at any point in my ministry, and I don't think of it as having a career, I think of it as a ministry, because all of the work I do is as unto the Lord. not at one moment did the choices that I made to serve the Lord and where I went to, the universities and all of that, not at one single moment was that ever a hindrance to what the Lord wanted for me and for my time, serving Him. And that's true right now. Also, you know, for my law license, like people, you know, ask me all the time, well, you know, are you going to get your law license back? You're going to practice, you know, whatever? And isn't that terrible that. That it was spending? Well, yeah. I mean, I think that that was unjust, it was unfair. I mean, it was a conclusion at the time. But, but even at the time, you know, I said, okay, well, if my law license is going to be suspended for a couple of years, then that simply means that what I'm doing for the Lord isn't going to require a law license for that period of time. That perspective changes the way that you fight, the way that you approach, lawfare, the way that you approach your daily ministry. And we should never, ever compromise. And I'm not saying that it's. It's a compromise and it's an objectively wrong, unbiblical thing to go to a secular university, but recognize that if your intent is to compromise and to say, well, I want to go into this bad environment simply so that I can get a leg up later, then you're probably looking at the whole view wrong in the sense that you should be following the Lord at every turn. Go to the university, go to the job, go, you know, pursue the things and the doors that you know that God has opened for you. And he will give you everything that you need to accomplish the work that he is doing. I mean, literally, there has been no hindrance in my. There's been plenty of hindrances, plenty of fights, plenty of, you know, haters, all of those things. Plenty of trials. Literally, right? Those things come. But at no point in my ministry for the Lord has he never, ever failed to give me everything that I need in order to do the work, work that he has called me to do. And I can rest in that. I can have peace in that. And so as we are preparing for the fight that is before us, especially if you are a young person or if you're a parent or grandparent of a young person, encourage them to pursue God first. And then recognize that all of the other tools you will pick up along the way, if you are a hard worker and you are focused on the ministry and the race, the specific individual race that he has seen set before you. As always, you can reach me and my team. Jennaafr.net.

Jenna Ellis discusses the intersection of faith and politics with Indiana's Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith. They explore the importance of courage in public service, the role of Christians in politics, and the necessity of standing firm in truth amidst a culture that often pressures believers to remain silent. Micah shares his journey from being a worship pastor to a political leader, emphasizing the need for Christians to boldly proclaim their beliefs and engage in the public square.