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Welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's issue is the name of the show. We got 24 and a half more minutes of just, I mean, excellent content coming your way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: News and analysis.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, you can use dynamite.
>> Tim Wildmon: We got. Well, yeah, but we are in war. And it's kind of a metaphor. You just, you know. I don't know, is that appropriate, Ed?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I didn't think of the appropriateness. I was just proud that I had one that matched.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, you got to hit the bullseye every once in a while, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Magazine.
>> Tim Wildmon: So this show is about to explode
>> Ed Vitagliano: in popularity, exploding greatness or another.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Tim, Ed and Wesley here. And Fred went to his room and Steve Jordah replaced him. Steve Paisley Jordah. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: What do you got for us?
Chip Roy is the president of the Southern Poverty Law Centers
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, I've been watching this hearing, this Southern, Poverty Law center hearing in Congress. Yeah, I know you guys play a little bit from the opening statement, but I wanted to play just. I've been keeping one kind of ear open to what was going on. Chip Roy, was the president of the Southern Poverty Law Centers there. His name is, Brian Fair. And Chip Roy had a question for Brian Fair, which Brian Fair had a little hard time answering. Cut 15.
>> Chip Roy: How many extremist Islamic groups do you have of the 1500 or so organizations you have on your hate map?
>> Brian Fair: Again, anyone can, can go to our website.
>> Chip Roy: My office has been looking over and can't really find one.
>> Brian Fair: Again, it is the splc.
>> Chip Roy: You think SPLC could provide us a list of the Islamic oriented groups do you have on your hate.
>> Brian Fair: The hate map, Mr. M. Roy? We don't target any group because of its religion.
>> Chip Roy: Really?
>> Brian Fair: I want to be clear about that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Really?
>> Brian Fair: Yes, that's exactly right. We target no group because of its religion. We target groups because they express statements and engage in activities that demean and
>> Chip Roy: vilify you brought up LGBTQ groups.
>> Steve Jordahl: So.
>> Chip Roy: You brought up LGBT groups a minute ago. So you think there's a bunch of Islamic groups that are pro lgbtq? Is that the position of the splcip.
>> Tim Wildmon: Royce that see him go from Congress? Yeah, he's, he's. He ran. I think so. Or is he. Is he staying in Congress? Because I know he ran for an office in the state of Texas. I've forgotten. Which one was it? Agricultural Commissioner. Anyway, he didn't make it in the primary. Chip Roy I'm talking about. But I don't know if that means he's resigning from Congress or staying in Congress. I don't know the answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm not sure. he announced his candidacy for Texas Attorney General.
>> Tim Wildmon: Attorney General. My bad.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And he lost to Senator Mays Middleton. I'm not sure what the Texas laws. Some. Some states require you to, not keep your seat.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're going to run for another office. I'm not sure what Texas.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, so according to Chad GPT. Take that for what it's worth. As of June 2026, no. Chip Roy is not expected to remain in Congress after his current term. He announced a run for Texas Attorney General rather than seeking reelection to the
>> Wesley Wildmon: US what about the point he made there?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, yeah. With the SPFC guy.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Got the guys laughing or group laughing in the background after he said.
The SPLC labels American Family association a hate group for opposing homosexuality
Okay, let's talk about that.
>> Tim Wildmon: They don't put. The reason they don't put, Muslim terrorists, are mus. The reason they don't critique Muslim groups.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like they do Christian or quote oriented groups is because it doesn't fit their narrative.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Their predisposed narrative is that you've got to find, basically you got to hunt for Christian and white groups only. You can't be labeling, groups that are otherwise in a hate group because they deserve to hate people because they've been persecuted. It's the, No, I'm serious.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's partisan.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The SPLC is a partisan group. And the only people may be a handful of exceptions, but I doubt. I doubt it. The only people they're going to put on are people they are politically right. The differentiation differentiated from. We all know that LGBT groups and Muslim groups are strange bedfellows because they ally politically, even though if you're a homosexual in a Muslim country, you get thrown off a building.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, no, exactly. So, you know, they. They've got us labeled the American Family association, by extension the American Family Radio Network. They. They've had Us labeled a hate group for. Well, we, we have a lifelong membership and the hate group list for splc. And they're not taking us off. They're not taking us off. And the primary, if you go to look at SPLC website, they've got us on there and most of the information is very stale and old. It goes back 2015, 20, 25 years. And they use quotes, a lot of them out of context. But, fundamentally, m. You know, American Family association does believe that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But that doesn't mean we hate homosexuals, any more than we. In other words.
>> Tim Wildmon: But we have to explain ourselves on that, don't we? That's part of the problem. The SPLC would say, basically, we would say, the Bible, forbids the act of homosexuality. It is a sin. Does it mean, as you say, Ed, we hate anybody? We're all sinners in one way or another. But we can't change what the scripture says about, human sexual morality. because of that, we've been labeled a hate group because we just cite biblical references to that. So there's nothing you could do about that. I don't think that they're going to. Now. They're probably going to say, no, it isn't because of, your views on homosexuality is because you have opposed human rights for same sex LGBTQ people. We could split hairs on that. But, but you're right, they, they don't go after, quote, hate from people on the left.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're political allies.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They give them a pass.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's move on.
A college football quarterback at Texas Tech admitted he had a gambling problem
I'm tired of talking about this Bill C. Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, a, big, huge ruling came down in college football. There's a quarterback for Texas Tech, his name is Brendan Sorsby, who came out and admitted he had a huge gambling problem and in fact that he had bet not only on other sports, but he bet on his own team when he was a quarterback, at Indiana. 40 bets. while he was a freshman quarterback
>> Tim Wildmon: with the hoosiers in 2022, didn't he transfer to Cincinnati?
>> Steve Jordahl: He transferred to Cincinnati and then he transferred to Texas Tech, where he is the starting quarterback. Well, after he admitted that he had gambled, the NCAA suspended, him. The Texas Tech, Raiders suspended him. He sued and, his lawyer claimed that he had, that he can't. He would suffer irreparable damage. The attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, framed Sourceby's gambling history as a mental health and addiction issue and argued that the NCAA was obliged to consider his well being and support him rather than punish him. The judge retired. Tarrant County Judge, Ken Curry ruled that the quarterback would suffer irreparable injury if he wasn't granted a temporary injunction and allowed to play this season for the Red Raiders. Now the rest of the college football world is in a little bit of a tizzy scene. They're not going to want to play Texas Tech if, to protest this, but, that's what's going on there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, so rhetorical question.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: What's the consequence for betting get your own team?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he didn't say bet it against his own team. I don't think. Did he say he bet. Did he bet against?
>> Steve Jordahl: He bet on, on the games. It doesn't say whether he bet for or against.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, yeah, that was just.
>> Steve Jordahl: He bet on.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The point is, if there's no consequence, I don't care. You can't feel bad for. Okay, I feel bad for him. He's still a consequence.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the young man's name?
>> Steve Jordahl: his name is Brendan Sorsby.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, first of all, on a human level, source B S O R S O R S B Y I feel bad for him. I am glad he's getting help. For what? He has a self admitted gambling addiction. Okay. And he's getting help for that. But that's. So that's, you know, hey, we've all been there in terms of, you know, we're all, as I said earlier, we're all sinners. So we understand that. However, separate that from the policy here that is at stake. People may want to. Well, why do you, why are you bringing this up? Well, this is, this is huge. Okay? You have a governing body such that it is over all of college athletics. I know this is a football quarterback situation at Texas Tech, but in professional sports and in amateur sports, gambling has always been a mortal sin. It kept Pete Rose the greatest hitter in the history of major league. Major League baseball by far. In terms of number of hits, four over 4,000 in his career. He's not in the hot. He's not in the MLB hall of Fame. MLB hall of Fame because he was, he was gambling and he lied about it. I think he bet for a on his team to win. He didn't throw a game. There was no evidence of that, but it was still forbidden. What I'm saying is here the NCAA has a rule. You can't. If you, if you, if you gamble, then I think if you certainly if you gamble on your sport, Maybe if you gamble out, but if you gamble on your sport, and in this case this young man gambled on his team, then you're in, eligible to play. Well, he went to court. This young man went to court and a court in Texas said, no, he can play. We don't care if he gambled or not. Well, they didn't say, we don't care if he gambled or not. the judge said that's what they
>> Wesley Wildmon: said by their actions.
>> Tim Wildmon: The judge, the judge said, no, he has to sit out two games. Which by the way, in any of the judges business, the judges on this is what judges get involved in their own personal opinion of what justice should be instead of just saying, did he, did he gamble? Yes or no. Should he be able to play? Yes or no? Not the judge coming in. I think he needs to sit out for a couple of cupcake games.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then be able to play. So what I'm saying is if in fact, now the NCAA will probably appeal this, but if in fact you can be involved in gambling in college sports and there's no penalty, then wow, then you got to get. There's going to be a lot of players out there who say, hey, I'll, I'll gamble, maybe even help throw a game. And what's the worst that can happen to me if I get caught, I get suspended a couple of games, it's worth it. now people may say, well they wouldn't. People do. I mean, that's a temptation that would come along for a lot of these kids. If they think, if I gamble, I'll never be able to play college sports again, then they're gonna. 99.9% of kids aren't gonna get involved. Does that make sense? You don't understand what I'm talking about here.
>> Steve Jordahl: So one of the things that's happened, the difference between when Bart Giamandi banned, Pete Rose for life from baseball and he was not allowed into the Major League Baseball hall of Fame, when this quarterback is just slapped on the wrist and allowed to play, is that the sports industry here in both major league and college sports have made a relationship with sports gambling. Sports gambling, places like, fanduel and Sports Kings, they have made inroads into sports and it has become ads during sporting events. I would say the colloquially is they're in bed together. And so you cannot ban your people from participating in an activity that you are actively advertising for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, now let me just say it sounds to me like from what you read, Steve with the Judges ruling. Because I think there may be one judge. yeah, the judge's ruling. I think there may be even a deeper problem here. It sounds as if the judge ruled on the basis of, like, the American Americans with Disabilities act, saying that this young man has either a sickness or a disability, and that's why you can't forbid him from playing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And to me, the.
Brandon Swordsby: NCAA ruling on student with porn addiction is terrible
Even all the stuff that you said, all this is terrible. Okay. For sports and for college football. But if that's true, think about where this could go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That you cannot fire a teacher.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who has a, porn addiction.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because they have a disability and will suffer irreparable harm if you forbid him from working. I mean, we're. We're talking about any addiction
>> Wesley Wildmon: with the. With the person that caused the problem and not the problem that they caused.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, if you follow this logic of, this judge, an alcoholic who kills somebody with a DUI should be let out because they have a problem, because they're an alcoholic. So they can't help it. So therefore, if you have a, DUI should not be applicable to them because they have an excuse for it. That's basically what is going on here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what this judge says. Now, I'm on the ESPN website, and this ruling, I certainly hope the NCAA appeals. So I'm going to quote from this article on.
>> Steve Jordahl: They have filed an appeal, by the way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They have.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Acc commissioner Jim Phillips told ESPN the ruling represents a, quote, horrendous pattern that is eroding the integrity of our process, end quote. A Big 12 athletic director told ESPN that they are disgusted and added, quote, we officially lost our soul, end quote. TCU coach Sonny Dykes told espn. How is anyone ever going to trust the outcome of a game again? Close quote. Well, so this is a. This is a nuke going on in college football.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Texas Tech is letting him play.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a good point.
>> Tim Wildmon: They recruited him. This is another problem. And aside to college sports, I'm just so tired of seeing, players who played at Indiana one year, Cincinnati one year, Texas Tech one year. This is. This is not the college sports world I grew up in, where kids came to school and you knew them from a freshman to a senior. Those were the good old days. now it's mercenaries, or they're just hired guns for a year. Anyway, that's a different story.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This has ramifications outside of the sport even.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Like I said, I feel bad for the young man in the sense that he had a problem, that he's trying to get help with. But you can't change, the world of college sports to save one kid's, eligibility. That's just all there is to it. And what these coaches are saying, what these ads are saying, and I'm just wondering the athletic director and the president at Texas Tech, the pressure's on them, if they're going to let him play. They're consenting to, in my opinion, that it's okay there. I mean, you, if you want to say. Well, I mean, I wonder what they would say about this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They would use this ruling and say, we're trying to get Brendan Sorsby the help he needs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Meanwhile, we're going to let him play.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's fine. But that doesn't answer the policy question. and again, we may say, well, this is only college football. No, this involves the whole amateur sports world, quite frankly.
>> Steve Jordahl: Several colleges are considering blackballing or, or, not playing Texas Tech. In fact, in a memo to staff, Georgia forbade its schools teams in any sport from playing Texas Tech.
>> Tim Wildmon: Texas Tech is in a conference. They're not. Schools are not going to be. Now, schools that are not in their conference will. That's the Big 12. But Texas Tech football is in the. They've got games already assigned to them in their league. I mean, they'll have to play them. They can't, I guess, unless they forfeited. I don't know. This is a mess. And if, if, this, if I were Brandon Swordsby, is that source B. I would step away from the team. Okay. I think he could rehabilitate his career if there's any way possible by stepping away from the team and say, I'm going to. I'm going to get help and set out of college sports for a year.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know what his nil deal is, but he's stepping back money as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Listen, I'm talking about, the long view here. I'm not talking about the short view. The school, to me, the school. Texas Tech should tell him, you're not going to be able to play this year. We're sorry.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Based on the NCAA rules.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And well, the bit. I think the NCAA rules bans him for life. But, but, but if you want. I think Americans are a forgiving people and we like redemption stories. And if he would come forward, this young man and the school and say, listen, we have considered, everything and he is going to. He could play this year. But we've decided it's not in the best interest of him or the school. So we've deemed him ineligible and he will be back on campus a year from today to restart his life. To me that would be an approach, would be acceptable to most people. Does that make sense?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: I would hope that Texas Tech would take that because it's an awful mature decision. You're asking a 20 year old college student.
It's the president of the schools who should make the decision
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about the president of the school.
>> Steve Jordahl: He should be making that exact decision.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's the president of the schools. He can step in here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Or the ad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or the ad. Either one. Or the head football coach. So anyway, go ahead, Steve.
6.1 earthquake felt all the way as far as Florida
Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Alright. Hey, did you know that there was an earthquake in the Gulf of America, right off the western coast?
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed just escaped. Ed was down on the coast. The Gulf of America.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a good thing you weren't in the water. Who knows.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what happened yesterday?
>> Steve Jordahl: So there was an earthquake, 6.1 earthquake, right off the west coast of Cuba. It was felt all the way as far as Florida. And of course it would have been felt also like in Cancun in the Mexican peninsula there as well. It is thought to be the largest earthquake in the gulf since 19 since records were started kept in 1900. The next largest one was in 2006. A 5.9 earthquake in 2006. But this is the largest one since 2000. Since 19, hundred.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, now this is going to sound weird.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. But I'm all about weird. So I'm standing the folks who lent us their condominium.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 17th floor, right on the beach. I'm on the balcony looking out at the beautiful ocean first thing in the morning. And I actually thought to myself, okay, this is before the earthquake. This is how, this is how disaster movies start. There's an earthquake and then on the horizon you see this dark line and it's a tsunami.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I thought what would we do? What, what do you do?
>> Tim Wildmon: I would say on the 17th floor.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: You're probably not gonna get.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I mean that's a weird, that's a weird thing. I, I do tend to think weird things like that.
>> Steve Jordahl: This one did not cause tsunami. The one in, in the Philippines did cause some minor tsunamis as far away as Japan. Nothing major.
>> Tim Wildmon: But but this says that shaking was felt as far north as Tallahassee. Yeah, that's in the northern part of the state of Florida. Yeah, that's pretty. I just wonder if Floridians have Ever felt an earthquake before? Because they said they felt it. Right. No damage was done and.
>> Chip Roy: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, 2009 was the last one you said. Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: 2006. 5.9. But I don't know, it depends how you feel an earthquake. Depends on the type of material of land that is surrounding the earthquake. This is why in the San Francisco earthquake during the World Series in 1989, they had the earthquake in Loma Prieta. Remember Loma Prieta was about. Is, about three miles as the crow flies from my parents house. My parents house shook. I think it took their fireplace down maybe, but the house was fine because they're standing on stable ground now, maybe 70 miles away in San Francisco. San Francisco is built, largely on, old refuse, garbage dump. Basically it's landfill and it is looser.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not surprising.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's looser material and it shakes more. And that's why you saw the massive damage in San Francisco, whereas. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is that true about San Francisco, about the refuse?
>> Steve Jordahl: A lot of it is. A lot of it's built on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is that why they have all the hills or something?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think they're trying to be funny here. No. I think there's trash.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I'm just wondering how much I learned
>> Steve Jordahl: this during the Loma Prieta earthquake.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Because that's why, the landfill issue is why, so much of the damage was done in San Francisco as opposed to closer to the earthquake.
>> Tim Wildmon: I felt an earthquake once. Really?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I did too. Coastal Mesa, California.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, you guys who lived out in California through m. Many, many, many of them. But we had one here when I was like 10.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Really?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it was like. I know. Yes. it was the NewSong Madrid fault.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which is a well known. I think it was originated up in Missouri, but we felt it as far south as northeast Mississippi. It was like on a Sunday afternoon. Lasted about ten seconds. Like that. 15 seconds.
For the first time, Mississippi earthquake registers as a 10
>> Wesley Wildmon: Scale from one to ten.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, for a little redneck boy from the hills of Mississippi here on the earth, shake is a. For the first time registers as a 10.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because what you go. What just happened?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Earthquake.
>> Tim Wildmon: earthquake. No, it was a, mild and no damage was done. But you sure, you certainly the, you know, the pictures on the walls were moving around. We'll be back tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.
