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>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to this Monday edition of Today's Issues on American Family Radio. I'm Tim with Ed here. And now joining us in studio is Steve Paisley Jordow.

>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning and afternoon, everybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve, you have a good weekend?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. well, let's see. Last Thursday I had carpal, tunnel surgery. Friday was pretty hard to move my hands. Saturday's a little bit better. Sunday, and today I'm feeling pretty good.

>> Tim Wildmon: So a three to four day recovery for carpal tunnel surgery.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it's, it's still a little stiff and still a little sore, but as.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Long as you can't use the remote.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, of course.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that first thing. That's, Now that used to be caused by using a typewriter over the years and years. Is that what they say?

>> Steve Jordahl: Still is a computer now.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: If you, if you. I have those little bumper things that you put in front of the computer.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: That don't let my wrist go down too low.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's the ergonomic, solution.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you're not limp wristed.

>> Steve Jordahl: I am not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, I've never had problems like you have had where I've needed had, you know, carpal tunnel syndrome is because that is for people who actually know how to type.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I, just use two fingers.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's not going to happen.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I am actually pretty fast.

>> Tim Wildmon: You wrote your book with two fingers?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I did. My new one that they'll be coming out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Got to be in like, like the circus or something. Well, that's pretty amazing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The only reason why I'd be in the circus.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All these years of writing two fingers, man, I'm, I'm fast with it. But it, it also means that you don't have, you don't place your hands. That's right on the keyboard. Like you're supposed to lose your.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but you lose your index finger when you're 63, too. They're worn out to the nub.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Let's, let's not let. I hope that happens.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you past 63?

>> Steve Jordahl: Dr. Dodson, when he wrote his books, he wrote every one of them out longhand on yellow legal pads.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Really?

>> Steve Jordahl: Every one of his books on longhand on yellow legal pads and had someone transcribe his. Type them up for him.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't do well in typing class in high school, but once I started writing a lot and I was newspaper guy.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And you appreciated.

>> Tim Wildmon: well, I learned to type. You learned Kind of like learning to read music or something. Yeah, or play music. You. You just learn. So I. I've got to be pretty good typer.

>> Ed Vitagliano: well, also, I also took a class in high school, typing, and did well in it. And then promptly when I finished, said, I ain't doing that, I went back to my two fingers. And I've regretted that ever since. I've regretted because it. You. I've many times needed to be able to look at what I'm transcribing and be able to type. And now what I have to do is I look and then turn to the screen and write it. That's improper. And I took the lazy way out. The good news is I didn't have to have carpal tunnel syndrome. surgery.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's just, you know, you and I have known each other a long time. I didn't know you only depended on fingers for typing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Pretty amazing.

Rep. Randy Fine is introducing a bill to acquire Greenland

all right. You're listening to today's issues on afr. what's your first story?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, just an update. I know you guys talk Greenland, a lot. First hour, but I have an update here. Randy Fine, the Republican from Florida, is introducing a bill today that would be aimed at authorizing Donald Trump to take such steps that may be necessary to acquire Greenland and set it on the way on a pathway to becoming the 51st state. Who did this, Randy Fine.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who is he again?

>> Steve Jordahl: He's a congressman from Florida.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I think I've spoken with him before. Hey, he's one. He's one of us. but I. Listen, first state, two problems. I thought Canada was going to be our 51st state. Okay, so, so resistance there. Can I just ask you two guys just. I just want to know, what do you think about this? Do you think we should use the military, if we have to, to take Greenland? What do you guys think? I mean, I m mean, even Steve's opinion. What, do you think my opinion.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll let Steve go first.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right. Go first. Steve, what do you think? You think we should. If we have to roll in there and take it?

>> Steve Jordahl: I doubt we'd have to do that. It would be like rolling in and taking tupelo.

>> Speaker D: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: It's not gonna.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Do you think we should have that third threat? Because to me, it's starting to get to a little bit, like, okay, we can buy Greenland from you guys. and if you say no, it'd be a shame if something happened to your family dog.

>> Steve Jordahl: I have to say that the raid in Venezuela may have gone just a little bit to the president's head. He's now threatening different countries.

>> Tim Wildmon: Other than that, Trump really doesn't have any ego.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What do you think, Tim, about the. About Greenland?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it'll be our Navy SEALs versus their literal SEALs. Okay. Now, they may be trained.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. Trained seals.

>> Tim Wildmon: Trained seals. They can, you know, do a volleyball on their nose or something like that. Be very impressive to watch should we invade. listen, I understand the. As we've talked about here in all seriousness, the strategic need for the United States to have access to Greenland. We already have a military base there, a small one, and I think we can work something out. I don't think President Trump should be throwing around the idea of military invasion on a fishing village. There's only 30 or 40,000 people that live in Greenland. Yeah. and these are our friends over there in Europe. I mean, for the most part. So I just. I think it's, I think it's bullying.

>> Steve Jordahl: I was reading something this morning that said that we already have the right to go in and put as many military bases in as we want. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. We don't have a need to, antagonize the situation.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Unless it's for the minerals also. In other words. Also for the minerals.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a big island that, you know, I don't know. Do you. Do they have a right to. Does it belong to Denmark? The whole island?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's under Denmark's jurisdiction? Yeah, I think they're. They. They. I think the people of Greenland decide their own political fate.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I'm just saying, just because it's an. I understand there's some. There's some cause for debate on this, because that's a massive piece of land, an island. And does it mean. Because you have one fishing village, on an island the size of. What is it?

>> Steve Jordahl: The size of the largest island in the world?

>> Tim Wildmon: Probably the size of half the continental United States or close to it, I would guess.

>> Steve Jordahl: I've flown over it. It is just endless white.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, does that mean you control the whole island forever? I mean, I don't know. it's.

Grady says President Trump should drop talk of military invasion of Greenland

It's a. That's somewhat of a question mark, in my mind, but I just think Trump needs to drop the talk of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is more than three times the size of Texas and larger than the combined areas of France, Germany, Spain, the U.K. italy, Greece, Switzerland, and Belgium, but not Denmark.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think they were the first to come up with the phrase, don't mess With Greenland, I think. Right. I think they use that person only.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Make Greenland great again.

>> Tim Wildmon: Make Greenland, Grady. I don't know. We'll see. I just, I do think that Trump needs to drop this idea of quit talking about military invasion.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because, you get people's ire up, people start getting, you start threatening. Like you said, it is bullying. Now, we may need that island, but we should pay for it. And they belong to an ally, a member of NATO. Do we want to really create a dust up with NATO?

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, President Trump, sometimes he's operated this way forever, though he, I don't know, he likes, he seems to get a kick out of humiliating people.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know how else to say NewSong York bully.

>> Tim Wildmon: NewSong York business. I mean, now, if he's your, if he's your bully, you're all for him.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But if he's not, sometimes he just gets carried away with his ego and just starts spouting off at the mouth and just like, man, just dial it back, dude. so.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he's, he's kind of consistent in that he's never taken military action off the table for anybody because he just doesn't want to tip his hand. But the military, they're not going to. We're not going to invade Greenland with military.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just don't think it helps. I don't think it helps the conversation by even bringing up the idea. that's what I think. But you asked me my opinion.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's not. I did. So.

Elon Musk says in three years AI surgeons will be better than humans

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, the future of AI is in medicine. If you listen to Elon Musk. I want you to play. This is. Elon Musk says in three years we're going to have AI surgeons that will be better than our best surgeons and we'll have them at scale. Listen to cut 15.

>> Speaker D: When do you think Optimus, will be a better surgeon than the best surgeons? How long for that? Three years. Three years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Speaker D: Yeah. And by the way, that's a three or three years at scale. Yes. There'll probably be more optimist robots that are great surgeons than there are all surgeons on earth. And the cost of that. But that's an important statement in three years time.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Speaker D: because medicine, I mean, like, absolutely something. But I'd say if you say like four years, I'd be absolutely. If it's four or five years, who cares? That's still an extreme precision. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Three years.

>> Speaker D: yes. Better than any, any probably. I say if you, like, put a little margin on it, better than any human in four years who's in plastic surgery by five years. It's not even close. I think your point was medicine is going to be effectively free. The best medicine in the world. Everyone will have access to medical care that is better than what the president receives right now. So don't go into medical school. Yes. Pointless.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Speaker D: I mean, unless you, but I would say that applies to any form of education. It's not like some, I do it for social reasons.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you're not going to medical school.

>> Speaker D: If you want to hang out with like minded people. I suppose.

>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who is he talking to?

>> Steve Jordahl: That is, on a podcast called Moonshots. He's talking to us, physician and engineer Peter Diamandis.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, that, that's that's on one hand encouraging, on the other hand, that's scary. Listen, you have to have a special kind of mind to even get into these kinds of discussions. Elon Musk certainly has that.

>> Tim Wildmon: you can go toe to toe with him though.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I couldn't. Oh yeah, I could probably finger to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Index finger with Elon Musk.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I could paint his toenail.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, no, I don't need that thought.

>> Steve Jordahl: Creepy.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That is, that is creepy. Okay, but, but here's the thing. I, I, when I, it's like these futurists who, who are so up to date with current trends that they then can make advice on policy. So if people aren't going to medical.

>> Tim Wildmon: School, okay, because they believe what Elon Musk said.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They believe what Elon Musk said, then what does that do for research? I'm not even talking about if there's some epic failure and we need human surgeons, the machines don't work for some reason. whether that's a, you know, you know, a war or something. Okay, that's a, that's a separate issue. But what about for research?

>> Steve Jordahl: That too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: AI is going to be better than that. Well, that, that could be for him to say three years, five years tops, that medical surgery would essentially be free as long as you have a robot.

>> Tim Wildmon: but he's not talking about a robot at your home, like Rosie.

>> Steve Jordahl: He's talking about the robot. He's talking about the optimus, which is the, the robot that walks around, looks like a human.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm guessing like Tim's saying, go.

>> Tim Wildmon: The doctor and out comes a robot to say, come back. You're gonna. Oh, okay, let me ask you this. I could go for the robot if the doctor's office appointments will be on time.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, they probably would be.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I'm just gonna tell you right now, I am not paying to go to a robot doctor who says, ed, you need to lose £20. Okay, your numbers are good, but you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Need to drop 20.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You need to drop 20 pounds and have taken that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Have a flat tummy like I do.

>> Steve Jordahl: By the way, you're already using AI in. When I go to my doctor's office, they're listening to everything my doctor and I say, and they print out a summary of it at the end. AI does. And everything that my doctor and I say goes into my medical records.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, so even the conversation?

>> Steve Jordahl: Even the conversation.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, you know what? I have a, a six month checkup in February. I'm gonna ask my doctor that because they do. They type things up. Maybe the computer, maybe they turn something on. And that whole conversation, my doctors.

>> Tim Wildmon: But Elon Musk is serious about this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

Steve Loan: I don't believe AI is coming for everything

>> Tim Wildmon: He's saying. Well, okay, that. I just have an opinion of that. It's just, you know, just my.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Loan. I don't believe him.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't believe it?

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't believe that he's lying, that he's intentionally misleading you. I don't believe that, that surgeons, are going to be taken over by robots in three years. I think that's nuts.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, like I said during a story meeting, I know it can't be true because on Star Trek there was still a Dr. Bones. And that is true.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you do with that fact?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. That's facts right there.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's facts.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he does subscribe to the Star Trek version of, the AI future. Not the, not the Star Wars.

>> Tim Wildmon: You guys think we're going to convert over on a mass scale to driverless cars?

>> Steve Jordahl: AI is coming for everything.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but, maybe it'll be like the eight track. People don't want to give it up. I don't know. I, I don't want to give up driving.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't either.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, maybe, maybe you, maybe there would be an option. You could have the self driving mode. Like what would you do with, autopilot? Maybe they'll be on like an autopilot mode. And then if you want to drive, you can.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: I tell you what, though. I tell you what, though, I do appreciate the improvement that, you call them smart cars are. The new cars today are just amazing with the technology that's there for safety purposes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: there's no telling how many lives have been saved in the last three or four years because of the Advancements in safety.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I remember. You remember probably you too, Steve, were in the same vicinity, same neighborhood. Age wise. I remember when seatbelts were not required. You didn't have to wear a seatbelt. I remember us going on a trip, a long trip, and me sleeping, on the little ledge at the back of the car.

>> Steve Jordahl: I remember the same thing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I remember and having that son coming in. My dad had stopped short. I would have been pitched into the next county. But I remember the arguments about no airbags. This should be, people should be able to do this on their own. All that stuff has changed. And now you get it. And this is not even really AI that we're talking about. But you're talking about safety. Anti lock brakes. Well, you just have to pump our brakes.

>> Tim Wildmon: But the new cars also keep you from going off the road.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, the lane assist and the, and the, and it's an adaptive, cruise control. So if I set my car on 60 miles an hour and I come upon a car that's doing 50, my car will automatically slow down.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Now these features can be disengaged, I suppose. So it didn't on the cars I've had the last few years. So you're, you're not like, you can use them or not use them. I think they're default.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, their default when you buy the car is setting that way. But personally I appreciate it because it does tell, you if you're going off the road or if you got, or if you, one of your tires is low, it'll tell you whether it's one. I mean.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And which tire it is.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: Which tire it is. I mean you, you wouldn't know that. Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I recently had a, an episode where I tried to pull into Pizza Hut and my car said, not today, pal. There you go into pizza.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's looking out for your long term health.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You go right there. I'm just kidding. we're not at that place yet.

Have you seen this new ad with Tom Brady Pizza Hut ad

>> Tim Wildmon: Have you seen this new ad with Tom Brady Pizza Hut ad?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, what is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Have you not seen this?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think I have.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, if you watch any football game, you'll see Tom Brady. And he, he's, he said, I've got a new job. He's a Pizza Hut, delivery guy. And he goes up to the Hut. He goes up to the, knocks on the door, whatever, to deliver a pizza, rings the doorbell and he said, I'm here for Pizza Hut.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, he does pretty good on commercial. Yeah, he did he, he's not bad, but Pizza Hut. Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: Pretty funny.

>> Steve Jordahl: Owns part of the Raiders.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Does he? The Raiders?

>> Steve Jordahl: He's, an owner. Part owner of the Raiders.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he's probably got plenty of money anyway, that, this, that is a fascinating story, and I'm going to be honest, I'm glad I'm on the way out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't tell me we're going to have A.I. for football, too, though.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know, just watching robots compete.

>> Speaker D: Nah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Please. Did that in 1970s with my electric football.

>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was awesome.

>> Tim Wildmon: Remember electric football?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I do. What a disappointment. That's why kids went out and played. You play that, game for 15 minutes, Jeff. Forget it. Let's go out and toss the football around.

>> Tim Wildmon: Couldn't stop your running back from going the wrong way because the board was shaking the wrong way.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's how we got outside. Anyway, that's very interesting. I'm glad you're keeping up with AI.

>> Tim Wildmon: you're listening to today's issues. Tim, Ed, and, Steve. Steve.

Emily Randall of Washington says white men commit crimes disproportionately

Next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: WOKE is still live. I want to introduce you guys to Emily Randall of Washington, who says, we have to really pay attention to the real problem, which is white men. Cut 16.

>> Emily Randall: We can trot out all of the data that we want to create the sense that there is a bad guy, there is a bad group of people. There are folks who are not among us, there are folks who are other. And I think we should spend a lot more time looking at ourselves, looking at American citizens, looking at white men who are committing violence at disproportionate rates in our country, who are committing crimes at disproportionate rates in our country, including the President of the United States, who is sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who is this woman?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Who is she?

>> Steve Jordahl: Her name is Emily Randall. She is a Democrat, of Washington.

>> Tim Wildmon: She is, like a city council person.

>> Steve Jordahl: No, no, no. She's a representative from Washington. Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, all I can say to Congresswoman Randall is calm down, Emily. Calm down.

>> Steve Jordahl: I just hated her face.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. So listen, she sounds like.

>> Steve Jordahl: I think she's making it up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, she's been hurt.

>> Steve Jordahl: Wrong.

>> Ed Vitagliano: She's been hurt by a white man in the past. I, I listen, I get tired of getting blamed for everything. And so she's claiming that white men commit crimes disproportionately.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's a bunch of garbage, huh? Yeah, that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I would be fine. Let's, let's not look at skin color. Let's Just arrest people when they commit crimes, put them in prison. I don't care if they're white, black, brown, red, yellow.

>> Steve Jordahl: I leave anybody out, you're gonna have disproportionate impact.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, well, then why yellow?

>> Tim Wildmon: Wait, wait, hold on. I'm still trying to figure anybody out.

>> Steve Jordahl: Black and white.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve's got the song we're all thinking, right? What did you say now? What were the colors you gave.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I said white, black.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hold on, I got to check them off.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, white, check black. Check brown, check red.

>> Tim Wildmon: You talking about, like, an Indian?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Indians. Okay, Check yellow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who's the yellow?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amasian folks.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think you're supposed to use that term, are you?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm, not, Well, I didn't say Oriental.

>> Tim Wildmon: that's what I say. Y' all told me that was offensive.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, that's what they. That's what Asian folks say. I don't know. Is it Asian allowed?

>> Steve Jordahl: Oriental and Asian are different. Oriental is the art. is an object. Asian is a person.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oriental is an object.

>> Steve Jordahl: Oriental art. Oriental.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay. All, right from the Orient. All right, well, yellow. Mike, I remember. Let anybody out, have I?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, I. I guess you can call Asian Jella. Although a lot of them are brown.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know what? I always. I. I like. This is obviously overly simplistic. I know we're coming to the end of the program, but that's all right. There's no time like the present to be overly simplistic. Is.

Have you ever met a pure black person or a pure white person

Have you ever met a pure black person or a pure white person? Color wise people are all different shades of,

>> Tim Wildmon: We all bleed red, Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it's all. We're all different shades on a spectrum, from the whitest human being to the blackest human being. who. What's.

>> Steve Jordahl: What's DC Talk had a song about that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What. What's the name of the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King?

>> Tim Wildmon: Albeda King?

>> Ed Vitagliano: She says this. She says there's no such thing really, as black people because there's no such thing as a purely black person. We're all on a gradient of colors because we're one race.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is touching.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I thought that was beautiful.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's beautiful.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I thought it was a beautiful thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're out of time. we thank you for listening. thank you, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.

>> Tim Wildmon: We are, we are encouraging you to tune in tomorrow for another edition of today's issue on the American Family Radio Network. And I said. And to keep listening to afr, throughout the day. Take care, everybody.