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Tim Wildman: Wesley moved on from deer hunting to turkey hunting

Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of.

>> Frank Turek: The American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today is Tuesday, January 13, 2026. And joining me in studio is Wesley Wildmon. M. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Ray Pritchard's in Florida. How you doing, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Tim. I'm doing great. How are you doing today?

>> Tim Wildmon: You're glad you became a snowbird.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, looking at January, it's, you know, just this last weekend we were up in Chicago.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it was like going back to visit Siberia. Saw a lot of my friends, but I'm telling you, right, I turned to Marlene and said, we got to go, we got to get back to Florida. I am freezing, so.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I hear you.

>> Tim Wildmon: No regrets.

>> Tim Wildmon: I hear you, brother. Well, this is a, January is coldest month everywhere. Yeah, coldest.

>> Tim Wildmon: Except maybe for February.

>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe for February. Yeah, we'll see what February holds. But anyway, so, Wesley, you moved on from, you moved on from your deer hunting to the turkey hunting now.

>> Wesley Wildmon: For the most part, I moved on from deer hunting, but we got a little bit of a gap, so I got to fill it in with some baseball.

>> Tim Wildmon: Baseball? Yeah. We got January.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, we'll be indoors a lot.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, your team you're coaching?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, the team I coach. So as far as entertainment activity goes, my next, activity outside of work is going to be coaching some baseball.

>> Tim Wildmon: But when is turkey hunting?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's in March.

>> Tim Wildmon: How long does that last?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Six weeks.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Unfortunately, wish it was eight or nine. Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wish it was longer.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Longer.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, you used to. Not, used, just. You didn't. Turkey hunt. Turkey hunt Takes a lot of patience, doesn't it?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, not really. It's the other way around. Deer hunting slow causes a little bit more. Well, it just depends on where you're hunting because some places have more turkeys than others. But as far as the differences, deer hunting, for the most part, you have to be more still. Quiet concerned about the, the wind. Whereas turkey, you can be a little bit more active. You can, you can move a little more and you can.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just always heard turkeys are smart and they're hard to kill.

>> Frank Turek: They.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, they are. But as far as patience goes, I think all, all hunting requires a good amount of patience.

>> Frank Turek: But.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But yeah, we're looking forward to that in the spring. But right now, turning my attention to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Some baseball I got you getting ready for baseball season. It'll be warm in baseball season.

>> Tim Wildmon: I guess.

Wesley, how are things looking in the transfer portal for kids

Wesley, the real question is how are things looking in the transfer portal? Are you working on your nil?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. For your 10 year olds.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. It's unfortunate, I know you joking, but, unfortunately in our northeast Mississippi there's a Facebook page for, for kids travel ball transferring portal. No, unfortunately.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: demands are takis.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: but we.

>> Chris Woodward: Sports drinks.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you can make fun of if you want to, but I am the agent for these kids and I'm looking for money.

>> Tim Wildmon: They deserve to be paid.

>> Tim Wildmon: They deserve to be paid. Name, image, likeness, baby.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, in all seriousness, I don't believe in that. And so we don't do that. We. I've had the same team for, since they were six old. They're 10 years old and we enjoy that. We've had a couple people that moved on for different reasons, but nothing, no hard feelings or anything like that.

>> Tim Wildmon: But no trading.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No trading.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I've got trading eight guys.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I've been, I've been coaching them since they were six years old.

>> Tim Wildmon: So win, lose or draw, we take it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I got a quick question taking us off topic here. Dr. Ray there. What, how did. Where are you located? I know you're in Florida, but you got a beautiful, background there coming out for the new year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we are, I'm at Word of Life Florida, which is about 500 acre, place which is about 20 miles north of Tampa. Spring Hill, there's Newport, Richey, and then there's a town called Hudson. We're about nine miles away from the Gulf. And there are. This is, this is high season down here in Florida. January and February Bible conference. season just started here at Word of Life Florida. So they're about when we got here in November, there's basically almost nobody here, but there are 500 people here now, most of them snowbirds like Marlene and me who've come in for the high season in Florida.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, you're streaming. Obviously your background there is really pretty. You didn't have that last year, did you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Know, well, we didn't have the park model last year.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is the first winter we spent in Florida. And I've got the feeling, and I think Marlene agrees, it's going to be the first of many winners we're going to be spending here in Florida.

American Family Radio host Dr. Frank Turek shares his fitness tips

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family radio network. And Dr. Frank Turek is on with us this week, host of I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. That's the name of his show heard weekends, right here on American Family radio. Saturdays at 09:00 Central Time and Sundays at 04:00 Central time right here on American Family Radio. How you doing, Frank?

>> Frank Turek: I'm just swell. How are you guys doing?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're doing swell. We're doing well.

>> Frank Turek: It's like a Happy NewSong Year. Like when. What, what date? D. Can you stop saying that? I haven't talked to you guys since the NewSong Year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. Happy NewSong. No, you know, you can wish us a happy New year. It's the 13th. resolutions are broken now by the vast majority of Americans. Too bad.

>> Frank Turek: There's too many people who have already signed up for Planet Fitness and they're not using it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now. That's bad. If you can't, even if you got a membership to a gym and you don't go and you quit by the end of August, you just, you really need to give that Christmas gift back to whoever gave it to you.

>> Frank Turek: You know, my friend Erwin Lutzer said that, you know, he's 84 now. He said, I went to my doctor and he said, look, if you start working out and you work out for six straight weeks, you can add 15 years to your life. And he said, you know, he did. I did that. And my doctor's right because after six weeks, I already feel 15 years older.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bada boom. Bada boom.

Frank Wesley goes to college campuses and answers questions about Christianity and morality

All right, Frank, what do you, what have you been doing recently? I'm just. We haven't checked in on you recently.

>> Frank Turek: Well, I've been resting because. Had a lot of travel at the end of last year, as you know, and about to go back out and do some more, this, this coming week.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, when you go into which, which colleges.

>> Frank Turek: Oh, in February, we got a couple churches prior to that, but in February we'll be going to Elon, we'll be going to NC State, we'll be going to north, Florida and several others. We got like 15 scheduled for this semester.

>> Tim Wildmon: So for those who don't know. Frank, goes around the country to college campuses and lectures and holds talks and answers, questions much like, Charlie Kirk did. Frank actually started that? where did you learn that, idea of going to college campuses from? Or did you, did that originate with you?

>> Frank Turek: Oh, no. You know who did that in the modern era the most was Josh McDowell.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Frank Turek: Years ago. And, then there's always been debates on college campuses and people like Cliff Kinnickley. I don't know if you know who Cliff is, but he's been doing it since the 80s. I started doing it in the early 2000s and for about 20 years.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what's the number one? What's the number? I've asked you this before. I think when you go to a college campus and you do, I've seen your, setup before. You do a give and take, you do a talk, and then you do a give and take with the audience. You have a, there's a microphone, kids can come up. Students can come up and ask you anything they want to ask you about God and religion or morality. spirituality. What is the number one thing they think, hey, see, this guy on stage. Watch this, I'm going to get him. I got a gotcha question that he can't answer. What's the number one question?

>> Frank Turek: Well, in recent years, the top three questions have to do with morality, morality and morality.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, why is that?

>> Frank Turek: In other words, they're always, they're normally questions about, lgbtq. They're questions about, you know, if God, why evil? There's questions about, you know, did God promote slavery or kill people in the Old Testament or these kinds of questions. Those are the biggies that people have. Although since Charlie was murdered, the questions have shifted a little bit. There's less skepticism and more people going, how do I get my friends to become Christians?

>> Tim Wildmon: What's the morality question? They want to know, they basically.

>> Frank Turek: Want to know, how is Jesus going to affect my life? And why doesn't Jesus agree with me on everything morally? Can I keep sleeping with my girlfriend and be a Christian? You know, that's why I ask people, if Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Frank Turek: No. Why not? It's not a head problem. It's not like there's not evidence for this. They don't want it to be true. They don't want there to be a God because they want to be God over their own lives. And so people are mostly not on a truth quest, run a happiness quest. we're just going to believe whatever we think is going to make us happy. And as you know, the problem is you can make yourself happy over the short term being really selfish and doing whatever you want to do, but over the long term, it's a disaster. And everyone who's over 40 listening to us right now knows what I'm talking about because many of us have tried it ourselves, right? I'm gonna, I'm gonna live life m my way. No, you're not. If you turn into a total me monster, first of all, what's that gonna do to your relationships? Who's gonna put up with that? You know, if you live for yourself all the time, I tell you what's going to happen. Eventually, if you follow every impulse, you're going to wind up divorced, addicted, broken, alone, and probably prematurely dead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: M hey, Frank, this is Wesley.

>> Tim Wildmon: Other than that, everything's good, Everything's fine.

>> Wesley Wildmon: This is wesley here. I'm 36 years old. back when I was in college, which would have been about 15 years or so ago for me during that time, those three or four years when I was at Mississippi State, I remember going to all of the BSUs and all the college, campus ministries there. One of the most debated topics amongst, my generation at that time was Christian's involvement in politics or government. And I remember that being a big issue. And your ministry and Keep believing and Steven McDowell and a lot of people, Alex McFarland M had a huge influence on my life, helping me work through that. But I, I don't see that as being much of. I mean, obviously it's always will be a debate in the Christian community, but I don't see that as being, top three or so. Is that just me or have you noticed that or what's your thoughts on that?

>> Frank Turek: Well, I noticed the people that don't want Christians involved in politics are all on the left. right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.

>> Frank Turek: They don't want Christians involved in politics so their influence can win the day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Frank Turek: I think everybody ought to be involved in politics. If you care about your country and you care about your neighbor, you ought to be involved in politics. And as Christians, we have to care. The two main reasons we have to care is because I always hear, you know, pastors saying, oh, I just preach the gospel. And I say to them, you know, they like, I don't get involved in politics. I just preach the gospel. I guess you don't think the gospel is very important then. What do you mean? Because politics affects your Ability to preach and live the gospel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: If you don't think so, go to Iran right now, you know, there's no First Baptist Church of Tehran. There's no Calvary Chapel of Mecca. Right. They don't allow it. Politically, the church is not thriving in North Korea because politically they persecute it.

Ray: Why are some on the left opposing ICE? Why politically

And so, that's the main reason we need to be involved in politics. The second reason is because God created the institution of the government. And he said the government's role is to punish wrongdoers and protect innocent people from evil. And if we're to love people, we should put laws in place that protect them from evil rather than allow, say, babies to be murdered, children to be mutilated, children to be sex trafficked across an open border, drugs flowing into the country, illegal, people coming into the country who then commit crimes. That ICE is trying to get these people out. And we're supposed to say, oh, that would be wrong to move criminals out of the country. Where do people come up with this nonsense?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: M talking to Dr. Frank Turek, by the way. Frank, what's your website?

>> Frank Turek: Cross examined.org cross examined with a D.

>> Tim Wildmon: On the end of it.org you mentioned ICE, and that's a big story in the news. The immigrant Immigration and Customs, Enforcement, agency. Is that that the proper name?

>> Frank Turek: I think they ought to add in, call it the National Immigration Customs and Enforcement Agency. Then they'd be called Nice and nobody could be against.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this. Why? I'm asking maybe a question. People go, duh. You don't know the answer to that. Well, I think I do, but I want to ask you anyway. Okay. ICE is a federal agency. they've been around for a long, long time. Democrat and Republican administrations. Their job is to enforce federal, immigration, law. And yet they're being opposed by people on the political left vocally, politically. And in the case of the woman who was shot and killed in Minneapolis, physically. What? What? I know you just said what are these people thinking? And you were talking about these folks. Why the aggressive opposition to ice? Because it only heightens tensions between when, when the, when ICE is trying to do their job to, arrest and detain and deport people who are here illegally. And they're basically going after criminals who are here illegally. why the, why do these folks want these criminals to stay? Or why are they physically, Why these left wing folks physically opposing ice, for example? Well, that.

>> Frank Turek: You want the spiritual answer. Psychological.

>> Tim Wildmon: I want both. Both.

>> Frank Turek: And then Ray can comment is notice that Satan attacks the three main institutions God has created. The family, marriage, the family, government, and the church. Those are the three main points that Satan rebels against God. So what could be more effective for Satan than, to take down the family, take down the government, and take down the church. So when you take down a government that is trying to punish wrongdoers and protect innocent people from evil, which is what the government's supposed to do, that's why God established it. That's what Romans 13 talks about. When you try and prevent the government from punishing wrongdoers, then you're doing exactly the opposite of what God wants you to do. You're rebelling against a legitimate authority. Now I will say this, that when you first heard that ICE shot somebody, as Christians, the first thing we ought to be thinking of is not, who's right and wrong, but man, that's a tragedy.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, right.

>> Frank Turek: if we immediately jump to conclusions and say, well, ICE must have been right, or the, the opposite could be true as well. Where you go, oh, well, this protester had it coming, immediately. If you don't know the facts, you're not really seeking truth. What you're, you're, you're trying to be an activist for a cause.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: And so I, right now, as I look at all the video and everything we've seen, I have no idea what the intention of Renee Goode was when she tried to drive away. I don't know if she was trying to run over the guy or trying to just get around him. I have no idea. It seems like if I had to guess, I would say she was trying to get, go around him, like get, get away. You know, that's what her partner said. Drive, baby, drive. Right. I don't think she was trying to run over him. However, that doesn't matter when it comes to law enforcement. Law enforcement has to make a split second decision. And that is, am I immediately in danger? Is this woman trying to use her car as a weapon? Maybe not just against me, but against others. I need to neutralize the threat. If that's what the ICE agent thought, then the ICE agent is in the right. Even though it would have been great if he hadn't done that. But he didn't know in a split second what was going on. And you, also know, by the way, this guy was also the victim of another car situation.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He was dragged with another illegal yards.

>> Frank Turek: About six months ago and had 34 stitches put in his leg. So that probably went into his calculus.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Let me just say, say this about that whole situation with this, young woman who was shot and killed by the ICE agent. She put herself in a bad position.

>> Frank Turek: She.

>> Tim Wildmon: And she put the ICE agents in a bad position. So remember, and when that happens, sometimes really bad things happen. Remember this woman had her vehicle blocking the street. She was trying to. She had been participating in, anti ICE training. All right, this, this was an, this was an intentional effort. Let me go. And hinder. Get in the way.

>> Wesley Wildmon: illegally.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me, Let me go. Harass these ice.

Ray: Minneapolis Police Department is not helping ICE with this situation

>> Wesley Wildmon: Illegally.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wouldn't it all be illegal?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No. You can pro. You can shout. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I see what you're saying. Yeah. You can protest peacefully and legally. Okay, I got that. But she put her car in the middle of the road.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. So when you put your car in the middle of the road and that ticked off the ICE agents and one of them is walking up to her car saying, get out. She didn't get out. So she didn't comply with the command of a federal law enforcement agency when she's blocking the road. Furthermore, the Minneapolis Police Department is not helping. So normally ICE would have said, okay, the Minneapolis police, they can handle this situation because the woman is obstructing traffic. She needs to be arrested. Okay. But Minneapolis police are nowhere to be found. So that leaves the ICE agents dealing with this woman herself by themselves. And they're walking up to the car telling her to get out. She doesn't get out. Then her, her, her, her quote, wife is filming this, taunting the yellow, taunting the ICE agents. They're just being smart, Alex, to them all along. And then she tells the wife, tells her lover. Is that what you call, I don't know, to drive, baby, drive? And that's when the woman runs into the I saw ICE officer. I don't know if she was trying to, run over him intentionally or not, but when you put yourself in a bad position and then you have to. And then you do something, like drive, baby, drive. And then you pull off. Well, listen, as you say, the ICE agent doesn't know that she's maybe not intentionally trying to run over him. The fact is the car's coming at him.

>> Tim Wildmon: And coming at him because she had been in the middle of the road trying to interfere with ice. The ICE agents work at least two.

>> Chris Woodward: People that were experts brought on Fox that afternoon, Friday afternoon, said what you just said, that it literally backed up his defense and ICE going forward, once you saw the body cam video, hey.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ray, let's wrap this topic up. What do you think about what Frank's talked about, what we're discussing here?

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. in the bigger picture.

Ray: Frank Turek says Minnesota shooting is spiritual warfare

And, Frank, I got a question for you here. Coming out of this, before we got into the specific thing that happened up in Minnesota, you talked about, Satan's attempt to destroy the family, the church, and government. And when you said that, I thought to myself, really, this is a form of spiritual warfare. I'm not talking about a particular event. But if you think. If we think, and I think entirely right, thinking about Ephesians 6, that this is warfare between Satan and human government, that it ought to call for the church. Seems to me we have many responsibilities here, but one thing we can do, we ought to be on our knees praying. Franklin Graham has called for, tomorrow to be a day of prayer. Right. Because of the situation here in America. And I'd like you to comment on what is going on in our country as spiritual warfare and how the church ought to be responding.

>> Frank Turek: Well, just like you say, and Franklin said, ray, I think prayer is essential. And also pointing out that this kind of attack, if you look at it and get the details of it, you realize it's an attack on the three institutions that God has established. Family, government, and the church. And we've seen this kind of spiritual warfare over and over again recently. back in August, that young man shot up that Catholic school up in Minneapolis. There's a lot going on in Minneapolis. And you remember what he had on his gun? Israel must die. Israel must go away. He wanted to kill children. He was being possessed by a demon, according to his journal. I, mean, he was attacking, Christian children. He was using the Lord's face as target practice. And he wanted Israel to go away. He was attacking the Lord, the lineage of the Lord and the people of the Lord. and now with Charlie's murder, what does the scripture say about Satan? Satan is a murderer, a liar, a slanderer, and an accuser. We had a murder. And what have we had for four months since then? Conspiracy theories. Yes. I am talking about you, Candace Owens. Yes. Conspiracy theories that implicate innocent people with slander, with accusations, and with lies. And now we have entire governments, state governments, telling federal law enforcement, legitimate law enforcement, who are removing criminals from their streets. They are saying, we are at war with you. The state government's at war with legitimate law enforcement trying to punish wrongdoers and protect innocent people from evil. Tim Waltz and Governor Fry, whatever, Mayor Fry, whatever. They should resign in disgrace. They're doing exactly the opposite of what a federal or state, I should say a state government official ought to be doing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right. Frank Turek with us. Frank, happy, NewSong Year on that cheery note.

>> Frank Turek: Happy NewSong Year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Happy new year. January 13th. So belated. I guess it's belated. The only time we lose. Use the word belated right when we say a belated happy birthday. A belated happy NewSong Year. All right, Frank, take care. Talk to you later.

>> Frank Turek: God bless you guys. See you.

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American Family Radio is hosting a women's conference next month in Mississippi

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio. Thanks for listening to afr. hey, this, story with Iran is, getting. We're going to tell you what's happening there and what President Trump has said about it. But before we do that, there's a conference, that we wanted to make people aware of. a women's conference.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, we have a women's conference at the end of the month, January 30th and 31st. AFA, the, or the Ministry of APA here. AFR is hosting one by putting put on by Hannah's Heart, which is our weekend program that ministers to, ministers to those who are struggling with infertility or maybe they've, are unable to, or maybe they've had a miscarriage or just struggling with having kids and building a family. We have a radio program on the weekend called Hannah's Heart and they are putting on their first ever conference. It's at the end of the month, January 30th through 31st, a day and a half. It's at Hope Church in Tupelo, Mississippi here in our, here at the town of our headquarters. And we want to invite you to there all the information that you can Find you can find@afa.net events. We also have a handful of other events on that page as well. But that's the one that's coming up. That's the cl. That's the next one that we have. Next conference or event that we have.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's a women's conference.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Yes, primarily women's conference.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. How do they, how do they. When is it, how they get more information on it?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, the date is January 30th and 31st. It's a day and a half. It's an afternoon in the morning. And that is at Hope Church in Tupelo, Mississippi. You can register and find out more information about the speakers and the worship time and the fellowship and some of the things that you may the itinerary by going to afa.netevents. we want to invite all those. If you have not struggled with infertility or, or growing your family, then you probably know somebody that has and we want to invite you to, or we want to ask you to invite them on their behalf. It's very, very cost efficient. I think it's. I'll get the price here in just a minute, but I think it's just like 20 bucks, 30 bucks. So like I said, it's a day and a half and we want to invite you to be a part of that.

President Trump canceled talks with Iranian officials about their crackdown on protesters

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris, what's going on in Iran?

>> Chris Woodward: Alright, that's a, that's a very good question. something is happening and I say that based on the fact that President Trump was today supposed to have talks with Iranian officials about their CR down of protesters. People have been in the streets, voicing their concerns about the economy and just basically the control that the Iranian regime has on the people there in Tehran.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're killing them.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, they are.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Iranian government is killing these folks.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And they've turned the Internet off, to squash communication or it's a major uprising.

>> Tim Wildmon: It sure is in Iran.

>> Chris Woodward: Now the angle with this is, Trump has canceled today's meetings with Iranian officials and he's now telling protesters, quote, unquote, help is on its way. Trump has several times himself and through people like Caroline Levitt, voiced concerns with how Tehran was treating the people there. And in this particular clip, this is from earlier today, Levitt told reporters that Trump thinks diplomacy is the first option, but he's not afraid to use the military if and when necessary. Clip 1 President Trump, as for him, he has always expressed that diplomacy is the first option.

>> Tim Wildmon: Always has been, always will be.

>> Chris Woodward: However, he is unafraid to use the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Lethal force and might of the United States military if and when he deems that necessary. And nobody knows that better than the Iranian regime.

>> Chris Woodward: That line there at the end is kind of a reference to the B2 bombing of Iran's nuclear capabilities back in July.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. What do you think about all this? Because in Iran, I mean, you're talking about, I don't know how many people they. How many people they have. 100 million, I think Ray said. I mean, it told me yesterday.

>> Chris Woodward: Seemed like it's 80 over 90 million.

>> Tim Wildmon: 90 million people. That's pretty big country. and it's. And this is. They're very. In a very volatile state. Why does this matter to us, you think?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this has to do with the peace and stability of the whole Middle East. How, how long ago was it? Wasn't that long ago when we sent the bombers over and basically destroyed their nuclear capability.

>> Tim Wildmon: Four or five months ago.

>> Chris Woodward: I think it was last summer.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Okay, so now you've, You've got terrible economic conditions in the country and you've got a stranglehold by the mullahs, at the top. And so finally, the people of Iran have taken to the streets and by the hundreds of thousands turning against their own regime, the regime that has them down, and what thousands have been shot and killed. And I think President Trump drew a line in the sand and said, if you don't stop in, the government basically ignored him. So if we've learned anything, given what happened in Venezuela, I, think we're going to. Don't you think we're going to see some kind of action against Iran in the few days?

>> Tim Wildmon: The United, States government has also told Americans living in Iran, and I didn't know there were any. But, there are to get out.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that usually means, something's imminent. You know, some kind of military strike is going to be imminent. And I don't know. I don't know. I have mixed feelings on this because I want the people of Iran, who love, who want freedom and want to get out, get the, boot off their neck from the religious, Muslim mullahs there, the Ayatollah Khomeini and the, you know, the, the Sharia law and all that. But, at the same time, I don't want the United States to get involved in a war that, you know what I'm saying, a foreign war where we're using our, our troops to, to boots.

>> Tim Wildmon: look, go ahead, look no, one wants to see, again, the 82nd Airborne.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody wants to see the Marines.

>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't think we will. Do you? I don't think we will.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think there's zero chance of that. Iran is not. Would not be an easy country to conquer by putting boots on the ground, because it is vast and, we know about Tehran, but Iran is a. Compared to Israel. How many times bigger is Iran than Israel, just in terms of land mass? Many, many times bigger.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah, I can somewhat answer that question. So Israel is roughly the size of NewSong Jersey, whereas Iran is comparable in size to Alaska.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You know what? I also wonder here is, in a revolution like we're seeing right now in real time in Iran, you know, you wonder about the people that are charged with enforcing the dictates of the religious mullahs, the, that rule the country, because, they're probably sons and daughters, if you will, of the people in the streets that are rebelling. So you wonder, is there a tipping point where it may go back against those, religious leaders who are oppressing the people of Iran and controlling everything and have basically a dictatorship going on? You understand what I'm saying? That's a big question mark when that might.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it seems, a tipping point that would. That would cause the government to fall.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, yes. To topple. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, clearly. Clearly there is such a point, and clearly we're not far from that else. Why would the government be so harsh in its reaction?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they're talking about public executions now to intimidate the people.

>> Tim Wildmon: At first the government was talking about protesters. Now they're calling them terrorists. Well, that's what you do when you get ready to kill a vast number of people. So there is a tipping point. The government thinks the. But the rulers over there. I'm trying to think the Balas, the mullahs. Yeah, yeah. They know that if this goes on much longer, the government and the whole apparatus over there is going to fall. The people are going to get their country back, and they're willing to kill thousands of their own people to stay in power, which is what, totalitarians have done since the beginning of time.

President Trump indicates he's ready to use military strikes against Iranian protesters

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so here's what. President Trump is getting directly involved in this. He issued a statement or did a true, social post or something, or said this at a press conference. I'm not sure. I've got the NewSong York Post story here. He said, iranian patriots, keep protesting. This is all in caps. Keep protesting. Take over your institutions. Yeah, I know. He Said on Truth Social. That's his version, of Twitter. He said, save the names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have canceled, all meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops. Help is on its way. Mega. Mega means make Iran great again. He said mega. So I'm, as. I'm saying this has the direct attention of President Trump right now, and he's indicating that he's ready to use US Military strikes in some form or fashion to join the protesters. And, well, I read.

>> Tim Wildmon: I read an article yesterday that said we have moved major assets into the region similar to what we did just before the attack.

>> Tim Wildmon: Was Venezuela.

>> Tim Wildmon: no. on the military, on the nuclear.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I got you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Months ago. So I think all it waits for is for the president to nod his head and say, let's do it. And the bombs are going to fall and the rockets are going to fly. And only you get the feeling this time, they're going to go after the head of government itself.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to Today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Wesley, Chris and Ray, did y' all see where this, You know the, you've been flown on an airplane. You look out the window when you're at the gate. Right. And you watch them loading baggage.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, right, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: On the plane.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The guys are out there with the safety, vest on, and they're. They're loading bags on the plane, and.

>> Tim Wildmon: Some of them are up, inside. Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Well, yesterday. Where did this happen, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: All right, this is an Air Canada flight. And I just posted.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I just posted the, link on our Today's Issues Facebook page. It says an Air Canada plane was taxiing towards the Runway when a baggage handler could be heard yelling for help and banging from below as he became stuck in the cargo hold. Flight AC 1502 was taking off from Pearson Airport in Toronto, on December, before the doors of the cargo hold inadvertently closed, trapping the ground crew member. I'm laughing only because, wasn't you. Yeah, well, that's true. I'm sure it was terrifying.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, yeah. So this really happened. This is kind of like, you talk about a bad day at work.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, this fella, fortunately, thank God, was not hurt. They. The people in the plane heard him banging on the, whatever. He's banging on the shell of the plane. But down below. Help. Help. Stop. And they stopped the plane. So he didn't take off because I doubt that's pressurized. He would have died, there, most likely he would have died. Now they do have pressurized parts of the plane underneath to carry animals. I know that happens, but in this case. So he is inside. It's a wonder his, the co workers didn't see him.

>> Chris Woodward: That's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe they did, I don't know. But so it. So he's inside loading bags inside the belly of the plane and the door shuts on him.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, a lot like the movie that comes to mind, the comedy of the Christmas vacation. When he's in the attic and he's moving some things around, setting things up and somebody and the mother in law walks through and sees the attic door open and he goes, ah, that's kind of chilly. We need to get that closed. She closes it and it gets stuck in the attic. Somebody walked by and said, oh, well.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know how the door got yelled. I don't know how the door got shut. to the, you know, to the. I call it the belly of the plane. But this guy. You talk about a terrifying moment when you realize that they just shut the door. So fortunately the. You knew. You would think, Ray, that maybe the noise, of an airport is incredible, especially out on a tarmac, with all the planes coming in and out, planes taking off and so forth.

Chris: Let what happened to Dave not happen again

But thank God somebody heard him, was able to,

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. So I would imagine that union wants the airline, now to have some sort of extra safety seminar, type thing, in their training manual.

>> Tim Wildmon: Rule number one, how not to get caught in the belly of a plane while loading bags.

>> Chris Woodward: Let. Let what happened to Dave not happen again. a travel blogger was on this flight, and she wrote in an Instagram post that it was the first time she'd ever experienced something like this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, yeah, I hope so. All right, you're listening to thank God he's fine. That guy's very true. but I wonder how he felt when he went and went to work this morning was tomorrow hold. He's probably wondering.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He's probably on the outside, the one throwing the back somebody else, if I.

>> Chris Woodward: Had to guess, he's. He's probably got PTO up until about Good Friday based, personal time off something.

>> Tim Wildmon: I wonder too if he, you know, came home, came in the front door with his lunch pail and his wife said, how'd you, how'd your day at work go, honey? Well, you won't believe this, won't believe what happened to me today.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And Are you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm not making this up.

>> Tim Wildmon: You have good life insurance, right? Because my job's hazardous, evidently, and I didn't even know it. All right, what's your next story, Chris?

Supreme Court hears arguments on issues of males and female sports today

>> Chris Woodward: Well, this very well could have been the lead story, had we not needed to mention the Iran stuff which is developing at afn. We'll continue to talk about it. the, the Supreme Court this morning began to hear arguments on two cases, one in Idaho, one in West Virginia. Two cases that involve the issues of males and female sports. A lot of people, do not want males to compete against females because it's an, it's a matter of fairness and safety, they say, but also a violation of a female athlete's Title 9 rights. Title 9, being something in the education laws that go back to 1972. Supporters of males and female sports say it's about inclusivity and these males identify as female and they should be able to compete, compete against their quote, unquote peers. And the Supreme Court is hearing arguments about this today, Alliance Defending Freedom as co counsel in these cases, meaning they are there to help represent female, athletes saying they should be able to compete only against males. One of the people, at Alliance Defending Freedom is a lady named Kristin Wagner. We've had her on this show before. And Kristin talked to Fox about the issue of these cases.

>> Tim Wildmon: Clip 3 the question before the Court is whether states have the right to keep women's sports limited to women. The ACLU is challenging laws that blur the distinctions, the inherent biological distinctions between men and women. There's no amount of testosterone suppressants or puberty blockers that erase these inherent advantages. And we expect that a ruling by the court could impact other areas as well. But first of all, let's focus on what's happening in the athletic field and in the locker room. Women's rights to equal opportunity, privacy and fairness.

>> Chris Woodward: A decision over this is not coming for till June, probably.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, probably June when this announcement will be made. I think the common sense side wins here.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Probably six, three, seven, two. Who knows?

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's winning everywhere else.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. But, constitutionally, I think these justices are going to. Because most the conservatives have a majority on the Supreme Court and they're going to say, and maybe even be joined by a liberal or two who believes in women's rights and women's, fairness because there's nothing more unfeminist, if that's the way we want to put it, than a, than allow the unfairness of Letting males play in females athletics.

>> Chris Woodward: You know what's interesting over this case is Ketanji Brown Jackson is participating amongst the other justices. And Ketanji Brown Jackson was the one that could not define a female, saying she wasn't a biologist.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right here.

>> Chris Woodward: She doesn't presiding over this.

>> Tim Wildmon: She's having a hearing where she doesn't even know what they're talking about. I say ingest, males or females. We'll see what happens. That is, that will be. But a lot of states have instituted laws protecting young ladies from males playing in their sport.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's about half the states now. So if the Supreme Court were to, lord forbid, rule against Idaho and West Virginia, that means Mississippi's and Arkansas and other states would have to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't think they will though. But anyway, we'll see. You're listening to today's issues. But that's a big hearing today before the United States supreme, court.

New Jersey becomes latest state to ban cell phones in public schools

next story.

>> Chris Woodward: Chris, let's take a minute and talk about cell phone bans. This is something that's been trending, a number of states, and cities have said, hey, no more cell phones in classes. It's distracting kids from learning. It's hurting the teachers.

>> Tim Wildmon: And we're talking about at school, not cell phone bans altogether, correct?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. Thank you very much. So NewSong Jersey is the latest to join this list, which means more than about, a million, are set to be banned from using cell phones under a new law. NewSong Jersey has become the latest state to adopt the policy prohibiting students in public schools from using them as well as smart devices during school hours, on school buses and at school sanctioned event. the governor there signed this bill into law saying it's going to help students learn, it's going to help teachers teach.

>> Tim Wildmon: So how many states does it say we're taught? What we're talking about folks here is there are some states that are passing laws. I guess you could do it on a school district by school district base.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And some do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Where, but in this case it's the state of NewSong Jersey. That's why this is in the news. But some other states have already done this. True.

>> Chris Woodward: 27, counting NewSong Jersey.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So they've said that you can't. No longer, I guess K through 12, I guess can. I don't think a case should have on anyway. But you know what I'm saying, where they can't bring or maybe can they. How does this. Ray, do you know how this physically works? Do they put cell phones in a box?

>> Tim Wildmon: Presumably? That's exactly what they do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. You get to school and you. You put your cell phone in a box or a safe place.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Still schools out. And then you can retrieve it, Right?

>> Frank Turek: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think that's a great idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it works.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, and also to the opposite of that is what's been increasingly going on in the, And that's that you're having kids with their iPhone out on their desk throughout class, and that's what they're trying to avoid. You know, I don't think. I don't. I wouldn't imagine them going through everybody's bags. You know, I think if the phone was kept in the bag, it never came out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So in some schools, they might say, put your phone away and let them keep them themselves.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Could.

>> Tim Wildmon: And. And they only get in trouble if they see them with it out.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yep.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And that's what that. And that's the way it was years ago. But I know many high schools here, even in Mississippi, that they're. Up until recent days, they've allowed them to have their phone out on the desk in wild classes going on.

>> Tim Wildmon: That seems crazy to me how distracting that would be. Yeah, that's like.

>> Frank Turek: Absolutely.

>> Chris Woodward: Ah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And that's the reason you're seeing,

>> Tim Wildmon: we're already having a problem across America with kids being educated anyway.

New York City teachers discover teens cannot read analog clocks because of cell phones

Well, for various and sundry reasons, you had this distraction of a cell phone in a classroom. I can't imagine a teacher.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct. Now, I think we talked about this at the end of the year, but on December 26, 20, 25, the NewSong York Post reported, NewSong, York City teachers discovered teens cannot read analog clocks because of cell phones. They realized after the cell phone ban that Johnny can't read the clock on the wall because he just whips his phone out and says, oh, it's 10:52.

>> Tim Wildmon: Really?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And that's happened in, London as well.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's sad. Can't read a clock on the wall. Huh?

>> Tim Wildmon: But you could read a digital clock.

>> Tim Wildmon: What has happened to our country? Can't read a clock on the wall. so anyway. So what do you think about this idea, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: It's wonderful. Wonderful. I'm 1000% in support.

>> Tim Wildmon: All teachers are probably applauding this. Do you have. Ah, so you said how many states have initiated. Have passed laws, saying no cell phones in schools?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. 27, counting NewSong Jersey. That's the latest one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, that's interesting. yeah, just, you know, that you can't. You can't have a classroom with. When your students are sitting there looking at their cell phones. I can't believe they let them sit on the desk like that. Wesley. Where do they, Is that how it used to be handled?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, like, I can't. I don't want to give names to high schools here and all that, but I've been made aware that that has become the norm over the last eight to 10 years, is for the cell phone to be put out on the desk.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also, you could. You. I mean, you could use a cell phone to cheat on test.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, right. Yeah, sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, kids could figure that out. Oh, yeah. Pretty easily.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay, here's a. Here's a technical question, I suppose, wouldn't. Aren't there some kids who sneak a cell phone in anyway? I mean, kids love to break rules, so.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, they just keep it in their pocket. Yeah, but that's what we were talking about earlier. You can. You can have a school district that says, look, no, we don't want to see. You don't. You can't get your. Put your cell phone up, keep it away. And you only get in trouble if a teacher sees you out with it, for example. Right. As opposed to taking the phones up physically when you walk into the school, to start your morning.

Chris: What's bad is in church and the cell phone

but anyway, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Excuse me. I got to text somebody here.

>> Chris Woodward: A couple years ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: I gotta send you this joke I just saw on.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry, but it's not distracting.

>> Tim Wildmon: Got a meme m here. Tim, you're gonna love this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, a couple years back, we covered a story where Chick Fil a had a basket at each table, for technology. And you'd put your technology in the basket. And that way, when you went to Chick Fil A, they incentivized or encouraged conversation and fellowship. Yeah, I haven't seen that in a while, but, that was. We reported that back. Maybe they're still doing it.

>> Chris Woodward: Cell phone coops.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Story about that on the Chick Fil A app.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, I get it. Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Wow. That was 20, 2016. I'm sure it had an impact on some people, but, I mean, to. To Tim's point, I mean, kids today have cell phones. you can't. I mean, we have a news meeting, and three people are on their phone while we're talking about,

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, we all are.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: If your phone's out, you're Gonna. And you get a ding. you're gonna look and see who the ding is from.

>> Chris Woodward: What's bad is in church. because you get, like, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: You'Re turning it off. Thank you. Thank you. What now?

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, I mean, well, if you're. If you're.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're up, you're preaching.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then bringing God's word.

>> Chris Woodward: You know, the bringing God's word.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then people are checking their text.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, the phone starts to ring. Somebody forgot the.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I was at a baby dedication one time, a service that was having a baby dedication, and the grandmother from out of town was standing on the platform with her grandchild, smiling, beaming. Who wouldn't, right? It's a baby dedication.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: And then her phone rang, and it was like music you wouldn't want to be airing on your phone in a church service at a baby dedication.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what is funny to watch. If it doesn't happen to you. Okay. And that is when you're. When you're in a place like church and the cell phone. Somebody's cell phone starts going off,

>> Wesley Wildmon: And can't get to it.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they can't get to it. Yeah. They're trying to find it or desperately trying to turn it off.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Under pressure. They can't. They forgot.

>> Tim Wildmon: They forgot to turn it off. And, the answering music for their cell phone is Running with the Devil by Vanliere Halen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's it.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's just not a good. You know, it's not a good. It's funny to watch, but everybody's embarrassed for us.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right. Topic for lunch. A Sunday lunch.

>> Tim Wildmon: We will be back after this short timeout. Chris, thank you for your contributions. Thank you. This here show. We'll be back in five minutes.

>> Frank Turek: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.