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Today's Issues continues on AFR with your. Host, Tim Wildman

>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.

>> Steve Jordahl: Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network, where we solve the world's problems one hour at a time, one story at a time, and one story at a time. We got an hour and a half of this show. We got 25 more minutes left. Tim, Ed and Wesley. And now joining us, Steve Paisley Jordal.

>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning everybody, and afternoon here on the east coast. And good evening. If you're in Moscow, I would think.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, we do that with the app. We do have people.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have listeners around the world. Yeah. so, Steve, good morning to you. Good morning, or good, as you say, good afternoon to those listening in the Eastern time zone. Although we're, we're in the central. So to you, it's good morning.

GOP Rep. Eric Burleson claims missile fired at unidentified UFO

All right, so what's your first story.

>> Steve Jordahl: For us Brothers T. Well, I think it's time we had a talk.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's all we've been doing.

>> Steve Jordahl: I know there's been some stuff going on in, on in the government. And in reality, that is under normal circumstances, I would say like 20 years ago, would have consumed our, media, our attention. We would be talking about nothing else. But. And it is. What are those unidentified objects in the sky? There have been a number of what the government is calling uap, they're calling that Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. They do that so that because the ufo, is used to associate, a lot of, with extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial aliens and they want to kind of get away from that kind of thing. So they're calling them UAPs, but they have no idea. There's a, There's a committee is called the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets that met last, yes, last week, a couple days ago, I should say. And, they were, they had some very credible former members of the military, pilots and, and these congressmen asked them about their encounters. I want to have play you a little bit of one of the, one of the questions you're going to hear. First of all, you're going to hear from former, service member Jeffrey Nicatelli. And then you're going to hear Chad Pergram, the Fox reporter who's bringing this report, talk about, something that Representative Eric Burleson from Missouri is going to say. Cut.

>> Tim Wildmon: 17 AOS ensued over the radio as.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming. It's coming right at us. It's Coming right for us. GOP Missouri Congressman Eric Burleson showed an alarming video leaked to him anonymously. Burleson contends it shows a US Drone firing a hellfire missile at a UAP off the coast of Yemen last fall. It pivots in some way, and then there's what appears to be debris from the missile. The missile is deflected, and then some pieces of debris appear to be traveling alongside and with this object, for an extended period of time. I'm just now looking at it. I had seen it, during the last segment, the headline. I wanted to click on it, but we were in the middle of a conversation. This is pretty shocking.

>> Steve Jordahl: I know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: this is a hellfire missile fired at this uap. Again, that's an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and the missile bounces off this thing.

>> Steve Jordahl: We, as far as we know, there is no technology that would deflect a hellfire missile like that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Got two questions. One, is it possible the missile could have been a dud? next question would be, where did the, where did the object end?

>> Steve Jordahl: up? They, I don't know. They didn't track it much further than the video shows. So I don't know where it was going or where it came from.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This, this story which I'm reading on Fox now. This is journalist George Knapp, who, I'm familiar with him. He's all in on extraterrestrial hypothesis is what it's called, that these kinds of objects are off planet. They're alien. Okay, so he, he is going to be biased, but this is what he says. That's a hellfire missile smacking into that ufo, and it just bounced right off, and it kept going. And he says there are servers, meaning where you store videos, where there's a whole bank of these kind of videos that Congress has not been allowed to see. Now, one of the questions would. One of the first questions I would ask, and this is surprising, this is going to surprise people, but Congress is not necessarily allowed to see what we've got in terms of technology, that if this is a test of a U.S. U.S. technology, they may be testing to see how it responds in the event of being struck by a missile. I can't answer your question, Wesley, in terms of it being a dud. It's. I think it's very rare for a hellfire missile to be a dud and not detonate. but I, I don't know. I, I, My, my tendency is to think this is our technology that we are testing, and Congress is probably not Going to be told.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Let me ask you this, too. I'm, I'm. This is a whole new world for me, so I may ask some very basic questions for y', all, but I'm.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Not getting into it in detail because last time I did, Tim made fun of me.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And you remember that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I, Why, why would we. I guess that was an American missile shooting at the unidentified object.

>> Steve Jordahl: Was.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, then why. If we don't know what it is, why are we just shooting at it?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It was off the coast, so it wasn't dangerous. Probably to. It wasn't. These things have been filmed, flying over cities. So then why Middle East?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I guess I'm saying is what do we do? We consider these things a threat, or did it cross a line?

>> Steve Jordahl: There's just so much that is unknown. There's. First of all, we have no list publicly. There' no knowledge of something that would have that kind of propulsion. These things, are known to have. Be hypersonic. They change directions in, in an instant. They go from water to air without any visible, disruption. Doesn't even splash when it goes into the water. And they've, been tracked. I don't know. This would be like Hal Lindsay would be out there preaching on the street corner and everybody be listening to him. If this was 20 years ago and it just is kind of, it's just ho, hum.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can they, leave buildings with a single.

>> Steve Jordahl: It seems to be able to. Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Single bound. Well, what's puzzling about some of the imagery is that the acceleration you're talking about, Steve Ordinary, according to the laws of physics, should create a sonic boom.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's how fast these things go.

Some interpret UFOs as demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings

But it doesn't. And there is no, there is no physical technology, period, that can. Where a physical object can hit the water without causing a splash. That's why there's some question in my mind whether all these things are physical, and we're talking about physical technology, or whether it's metaphysical. Anyway, that's where I got myself into trouble the last time I talked about metaphysical would mean spiritual. Well, or.

>> Steve Jordahl: There is, there is a line of discussion among people who think that these phenomena are a form of demonic deception designed to lead people away from God and into the occult. they. Some interpret that the UAPs are demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings. By the way, I got this all from, AI. Thank you very much.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You could have just come to my office.

>> Steve Jordahl: I could have just come to your office, but I didn't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But I would have shut the door while we talked.

>> Steve Jordahl: So the, proponents of this view believe that the phenomena of UAPs and the fascination with aliens serve as a deliberate distraction, drawing people away from religious faith and towards occult practices. I don't know about that anyway, but they think that this may be the physical manifestation of the spiritual realm. This does some weird things to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I know, look at it.

>> Steve Jordahl: This does some weird things to your theology. If you want to start talking about, extraterrestrial beings. M. I don't know. I don't know how to envelop that into my theology.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go for it, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: No, I don't know.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Answers in Genesis covers this a good bit.

>> Steve Jordahl: Do they?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, you could go to their website.

>> Ed Vitagliano: There's some excellent books on, on this subject. And, But I've. I've never seen video like this with a missile bouncing off it. So that's the kind of thing. What makes me think. And to answer your question, Wesley, why would we be opening fire on it? We probably have rules of engagement. And where my opinion is, some of this is our technology, and we want a real world test for its capabilities. So you don't tell the military, the guy flying the drone, that this is our tech. You want to test our military capabilities against this new technology? Because if we use it against the Chinese, we want to know how they would respond. So you have rules of engagement where you say, if this is not overpopulated area, open fire on it. M. Okay. You issue warnings and you say, you know, halt or whatever they say, and then you fire. And we want to test and see how, how good it does against conventional weapons. That's just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where can people watch that video was?

>> Ed Vitagliano: it's on Fox.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's fascinating.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. If you, look at. For UFO hearing or UAP hearing, the video is likely to come up.

>> Tim Wildmon: I. I do wonder why we fired at it. Did it fired us?

>> Steve Jordahl: I. No, I just. I. I see a movie set with the generals, like, I don't know, you remember the movie where, it was Matthew Broderick, I think. do you want to play a game? And,

>> Ed Vitagliano: War games.

>> Steve Jordahl: War games. And they're sitting in this thing, they're watching this thing, and one of the generals says, hey, oh, let's. Let's throw a Spitfire at it, see what it does. Yeah, I don't know. I just.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, there are concerns that if this is not our technology, and, maybe it's Russian, maybe it's Chinese, or maybe it's. Nobody's here on Earth. We want to be prepared. So the reason we would fire at it is either we're testing our own technology, or we want to know how our technology stacks up against it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but if it is extraterrestrial, right? If it is from outer space coming to our a planet, and the first thing we do while it's trying to be friendly, you know what I'm saying, flying around our planet is we start firing, trying to destroy it. I mean, is that a way to. Well, when to win friends and influence, beings. I would just ask the question. I don't have an answer. I'm just. It's an open end.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I just. I'll just tell you what my answer is.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's your answer?

>> Ed Vitagliano: They weren't invited. And if they turn out to be hostile, we need to know what we.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can do to defend ourselves in the Hellcat weapon.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hellfire missile.

>> Tim Wildmon: Missile. Because it bounces off.

All right. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long. I just thought we needed to have a conversation

>> Steve Jordahl: All right. I just thought we needed to have a conversation. Thank you, gentlemen.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is for. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I appreciate you bringing it up.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure you do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. No, it is. It is unexplained. It is. I mean, this is not a. I mean, what. What we saw there on the video. That's. And they're describing there. Next story, Steve.

Representative Jasmine Crockett says law enforcement isn't to prevent crime

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, I want to take us to some of the brainiacs on the opposite side of the aisle from Republicans in Congress.

>> Tim Wildmon: What I was called in high school.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I bet. Specifically, I want to play something that Representative, Jasmine Crockett from Texas is saying. And now she has become kind of the new voice of the ultra radical Democrats. The squad is.

>> Tim Wildmon: She's the Texas version of aoc.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. She's a. She's the brisket.

>> Steve Jordahl: And she, was talking, she was on a, on a podcast called Grounded. And, she was asked about law enforcement. And I mean, I don't know about this, but this is what she had to say. Cut 16.

>> Tim Wildmon: I want to be clear that, like, law enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime, okay? That is what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to solve crimes, not necessarily, prevent them from happening per se.

>> Steve Jordahl: I hear the Scooby Doo. Go.

>> Tim Wildmon: She is a United States House of Representatives member from Dallas area, right?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: that's. That's a ridiculous thing to say. they can do more than one job at a time. It's been. It's been demonstrated in cities that having a greater police presence in high crime areas, per se. Per se. Tends to dampen the amount of crime.

>> Steve Jordahl: Come on, if you got a cop on the corner, you're gonna break into the jewelry store right there.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're not any idea what she's responding to? Right there, talking about she.

>> Steve Jordahl: She's responding to. I think she's taking the. The narrative that these troops that, Donald Trump wants to send into Chicago, that he sent into, Washington, D.C. aren't preventing crime. They don't prevent crime. They solve crime.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's ridiculous.

>> Steve Jordahl: I know it is.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, no, that would be called a detective. Detective solves crime, scrambles, and then a police officer prevents crimes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And oftentimes, or response to crimes, oftentimes just the presence of police will prevent a crime. That's what's happening in Washington, D.C. you put national Guardsmen on every corner. The. The, criminals see that, and they don't want to get. They don't want to, open themselves up to being caught. So. So that was kind of the purpose of sending him.

Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none

Have you also noticed this, where. Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Have y' all noticed this?

>> Steve Jordahl: No. What? I see. But.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But they're.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm talking about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, but they are. But let's be. Let's be very clear. They're put up by law enforcement, though. These are not blue lights that are put up by civilians to trick you.

>> Tim Wildmon: No. Well, maybe so, but I've seen a couple of them on private property. What I'm talking.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, I'm not talking. I've not seen that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not. I'm talking about blue lights being used.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You have to be careful that you don't want to impersonate a cop or.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's not. There's nothing. It's like a blue light being put On a. On a light pole somewhere or something, in a. You know, you got a business. I've seen them at businesses that are closed, obviously, at night. And they put a little blue light up there. That's right. It's not necessarily flashing, like a police officer's lights on a car, but it's what I'm saying, it's a psychological. When I see it, you think police.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay?

>> Tim Wildmon: So that's what I think is a deterrent, psychological deterrent, for people to be in places thinking maybe what you said, that the police themselves have a spy camera on them or something.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The ones I referred to are the ones mostly for, speeding. So throughout the highway or town, the police. And in daylight you can see that it's got the police emblem on there. The local police department. And it flashes blue at night in areas that people usually speed.

>> Steve Jordahl: It might be in higher crime areas, someplace to indicate that if people go to that blue light, there's an. There's a place they can communicate with the police. Like a phone. You can pick up and say, hey, this happened or not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I was always told, you know, if you're in trouble, do not. Don't move towards the white light. But the blue light.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did you say anything to drop and roll.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Stop, drop, roll, stop, drop and roll.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stop, drop and roll. That's what I was taught.

Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons drive autism in mice

Next story. Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right. They are, doing some really good medical stuff with mice, I would have to say. Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons. In the end. I'm gonna lean on you, Tim, to. To tell me what this is, but the reticular thalamic nucleus drive autism like behaviors in mice. Neurons in the reticular thalam. Thou. Thalomatic nucleus. That's what. That's where they are seeing autism like behaviors in mice. And they found some medicine, way, to control the autism. They took autism away from autistic mice and they started behaving normal.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And what. What. What was it that they gave? What was the medicine?

>> Tim Wildmon: Good question.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's a good question. It was. It wasn't a medicine. It was, calming the neurons with a calcium channel blocker.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they called the neurons. I did that as my 44. I actually did that as my science project. No, in 11th grade.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Back in those calcium channel blockers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I did that. It was new. Nobody knew what I was doing. So I like, got a C minus science teacher. Didn't even know. Couldn't appreciate what I was doing. This is why I tell them what I was doing. Again, Steve, you were.

>> Steve Jordahl: You were calming the neurons. Explain it again. The neurons in the reticular thalamatic nucleus with Z944 calcium channel blockers is what you short.

>> Tim Wildmon: I was helping these mice.

>> Steve Jordahl: You were.

>> Tim Wildmon: What would you have done?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Calming the. What. What was the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, thalmic.

>> Steve Jordahl: The neurons.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Nothing is worse than neurons that need to be calmed. Well, if they're overly excited, neurons.

>> Steve Jordahl: I.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Will tell you with cause all kinds of problems.

>> Tim Wildmon: How do you stop this right here? Steve, we got family. Tell us what the serious issue is. there is a, I try to hold this thing together.

>> Steve Jordahl: I know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ed Wesley over here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry.

>> Tim Wildmon: Taking us in all kind of different directions.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry I interrupted your serious discussion. There is a Science project.

>> Steve Jordahl: There is a huge uptick in autism births, and the researchers are trying to figure out what causes it. And they might have had a breakthrough with mice.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Steve Jordahl: It's a long ways from being able to do something with humans with autism, but it's something that's kind of interesting that they've been able to find a way to revert autistic mice to normal behavior with.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and also, seriously, it is a step in the right direction to finding out what triggers these neurons. And then all that other stuff you said. I won't belabor the audience listening audience with, asking Tim to explain it all, but it is a. I could.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, bore people.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it could. It could be a step in the right direction, not only of, interrupting it and carrying it, but also figuring out what triggers it.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what they're hoping.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What were you talking about? I'm just kidding.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We can talk.

>> Tim Wildmon: About this at lunch if you like.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I got a book on.

>> Tim Wildmon: You want to talk about this?

>> Ed Vitagliano: You have a book on it?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Audio book.

>> Steve Jordahl: Okay. Go ahead.

Apple's new AirPods will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: Apple is announcing, it's had one of its launches. You know, every so often Apple rents a huge hall in the Bay Area and they get their CEO, or whoever Tim Cook and. Or was in the day was, the, the guy with the turtleneck sweaters, Steve Jobs, he was going. He would demonstrate the new. The new upcoming products from Apple. Well, they still have these things. They're called launches. And it had its biggest launch of the year on September 19th. And this is what it announced. It announced new iPhones and Apple watches that will go on sale September 19th. Most of it was about pricing and new technology, but they had something that I thought was really kind of cool. The new Apple AirPod Pro 3 that they're going to introduce have improved audio quality and noise canceling. One new feature is that they will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages in real time.

>> Tim Wildmon: All, Right. That could be actually beneficial.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow. So you put these AirPods in and you can have a conversation, right? Well, you can understand.

>> Steve Jordahl: You can understand what they're saying. It doesn't translate individual words. The meaning of each phrase is translated to you. So when you talk, you just speak naturally.

>> Tim Wildmon: And the AI. The AI interprets, for you to the other individual who doesn't speak that language.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't, I don't know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The AirPods that you hear someone speaking, like in French.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the AI translates and so that you're hearing it in your Language.

>> Steve Jordahl: As far as communicating back to them, you give them a pair.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's like a, like an interpreter.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Except it's a, computer generated.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's.

>> Steve Jordahl: I thought that was pretty incredible. Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And it's in real time, so there's not much of a today.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, let me ask you this. If you go to Boston.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can you, get it? Will they interpret that for you?

>> Steve Jordahl: Southern accent. There's no pocket yard.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't think it works because I know my iPhone doesn't translate what I.

>> Steve Jordahl: Say when I speak into it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I have to go and correct it.

>> Tim Wildmon: There are some Southern accents. That's true within interpreting.

>> Steve Jordahl: Just think about how that would go on a European vacation, though, you know, you est.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Where's the bathroom?

>> Steve Jordahl: Where's the bathroom?

>> Tim Wildmon: There you go, Banyo.

Archaeologists are finding treasures in Turkey and Egypt

All right, so we got 45 seconds or how long we got till music starts?

>> Steve Jordahl: About 20 seconds. There's a 2000-year-old Roman Hall. They found the church of Laodicea. Really? Archaeologists have. They're kind of neutral about. They're kind of hot and cold about whether it's.

>> Tim Wildmon: I knew that was coming.

>> Steve Jordahl: Place to be or not, but even.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wait for me on that one, lady.

>> Steve Jordahl: It's in Turkey. The site holds carvings to early Christian worship. And, the Andelu Agency announced this in August. They have found Laodicea.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're discovering all kinds of Israel. And in Turkey and Jordan, they're finding all kinds.

>> Tim Wildmon: Egypt, too. They're defining a, They're finding artifacts that confirm what the Bible says.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: About history.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, I will. I will say I wasn't too thrilled what they found in Egypt a couple of weeks ago. It was a mummy. But there was a warning not to open the sarcophagus or the mummy would come to life and bring doom and destruction.

>> Steve Jordahl: And Brandon Frazier did, Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: He's a big boy now.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Seen him?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

We will take a break now for 22 and a half hours

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we will take a, break now for 22 and a half hours.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Gotta warm up for the next episode.

>> Tim Wildmon: Back here tomorrow. We hope you have a great day. Keep listening to afr.