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Tim Wildman hosts Today's Issues with Fred Jackson and Steve Crampton
Afa.net welcome to today's issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Issues is the name of this program, and we thank you for listening to afr. We don't take you for granted. we could, but we don't. We don't take you for granted here, at American Family Radio, Tim Wildmon here with Fred Jackson. Morning, brother Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Good Monday morning to you.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. And, Chris Woodward.
>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: And his studio. Y' all know Chris and Fred. Everybody who listens to this show knows Chris and Fred. Now, Steve Crampton is on from time to time. Steve joins us, in the studio this morning. Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Crampton: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: so, Steve, I asked you right before the show, how do you want me to introduce you other than just Steve? So, so what. What is your. What's your proper. What's your jobs? What jobs you work for?
>> Steve Crampton: All right. I am a senior, counsel for the Thomas Moore Society.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Which. What do they do? They know.
>> Steve Crampton: But for the public interest work, we defend Christians, in, their difficulties with the government, primarily. But sometimes with you, that work pro bono. Pro bono, that's correct. And then, I am part time here as assistant general counsel to the afa. All right, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, anyway, good to have you in studio with us.
>> Steve Crampton: Great to be with you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Had you on to talk about when we get to the James Comey Story in just a minute. But you, guys, anybody here, you follow college football?
>> Steve Crampton: I do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Krista, did you see the game?
>> Fred Jackson: So I watched the Ole Miss game.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ole Miss game. They beat lsu.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. That was a good game.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Really good game. Close.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. LSU fans not happy.
>> Fred Jackson: Not happy. No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ms. Fans elated.
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Steve Crampton: Does a, candidate not have a team?
>> Tim Wildmon: Canada. They don't play college football. Canada.
>> Fred Jackson: They sure do. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do they?
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. But hockey is priority.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Hockey is where they dominate.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. So, Steve's A Tennessee fan. Congratulations.
>> Steve Crampton: Thank you. That was a nail biter, though. My goodness.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, my. My team, my alma mater, Mississippi State, that's the Cowboy School. Those who don't know, they. They, It was a great game. It was a great game. And Tennessee won an overtime. but, then Alabama went over, beat Georgia. Everybody said, alabama's dead.
>> Steve Crampton: Exactly.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, no, they're not.
>> Chris Woodward: They always find a way to rise from the grave.
>> Steve Crampton: And against Georgia, they. Everything they've got, don't they?
>> Tim Wildmon: And athletes. Yeah.
Tim Ferriss: Thank goodness for week football weekends
And then, everybody said, well, Florida State's king of the world. Wait a minute. Florida State just got beat by Virginia.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's just, you never know from Saturday to Saturday, do you, what's going to happen in, the world of college football. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, we got a lot of serious stuff to talk about today, but thank goodness for week football weekends, for we can at least take a break from reality.
>> Steve Crampton: Amen to that, Tim. We need that every now and again.
>> Tim Wildmon: Everybody needs a little escapism, for your, Sanity.
>> Steve Crampton: Sanity.
>> Tim Wildmon: For your sanity. Right. All right, well, there's a lot of things happening today, a lot of stories we got to get to. We're going to get to Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, who is in Washington, D.C. to meet with. He gave a speech before the UN in New York, and he's going to meet with President Trump today. Right.
>> Fred Jackson: He is due to arrive any minute.
>> Tim Wildmon: At the White House.
>> Fred Jackson: We're monitoring.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. All right, so we're going to talk about that and, some other stories. What was there? Oh, I'm sorry. Before we get to the,
>> Steve Crampton: Comey.
>> Tim Wildmon: James Comey story, which is a big story, sadly, there were two tragedies in our country over the weekend, Chris.
A gunman opened fire at a Michigan church yesterday leaving at least four dead
What were they?
>> Chris Woodward: Well, at least four people were shot and killed, after a gunman opened fire at a Michigan church and set fire to the building yesterday. as a matter of fact, I'm looking at the, coverage on various networks, including CNN right now, which is quoting both the White House and the FBI as saying they believe the gunman, quote, hated people of the Mormon faith. This was a Mormon or LDS church, where again, a gunman opened fire and killed at least four people yesterday. Authorities have identified the shooter or attacker as Thomas Jacob Sanford. he's been described as an Iraq War veteran who suffered from PTSD and may have worn a T shirt saying make liberals cry again shirt at the time of this heinous attack.
>> Fred Jackson: No, really tough. He drove his truck into the church, opened fire and then set the church on fire. Now, as Chris has reported, at least four people dead, but authorities are saying they're continuing their search because some people may have died as a result of the fire. So, this story is a long way from being completed. But as Chris is saying, what? White House announcing this morning that he had problems with the Mormon Church. We don't know what that is. They must be probably going through social media looking for comments, etc. Etc. sometimes we have seen incidents in the past where there is a member of a church that somebody has a problem with. I think we saw that in Texas several years ago. I remember that there was a personal connection, but there is no indication at this point that this man had a problem with a member of the church.
>> Tim Wildmon: What is, What exactly. I know we aren't. No, nobody in here is a psychologist or psychiatrist, but what is p. ptsd? What is that, Steve?
>> Steve Crampton: Traumatic Stress Disorder.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so it's a. It's a. I've heard of it. Everybody, Everybody's heard of it. But they say these. A lot of these veterans come who've been in combat especially come back with this.
>> Steve Crampton: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: In Iraq or Afghanistan or somewhere like that. Vietnam. which I, guess if you have a extreme case of it can cause you to act like an insane person. Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And there was another situation, near the Cape Fear, North Carolina area, where authorities are saying a Marine veteran is in custody after police say he killed at least three people and shot another eight in a shooting at a waterfront bar over the weekend. again, in the North Carolina area.
>> Tim Wildmon: How many dead there?
>> Chris Woodward: at least three killed, at least eight injured.
>> Tim Wildmon: Drive by in a boat.
>> Steve Crampton: Yes.
>> Chris Woodward: Basically pulled up to the, to the bar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mm.
>> Steve Crampton: Sort of.
>> Tim Wildmon: That I know. Who was he targeting? Somebody.
>> Chris Woodward: Authorities are still investigating this too. We'll find out more throughout the day with this. this is kind of a.
You say you cannot claim mental insanity in church shooting case
>> Tim Wildmon: Meanwhile, here's where you get into the difference between pure evil, if there is a difference. Sometimes the lines blurred. Pure evil, as the Bible describes it. I'm talking about from the devil himself. If you want to laugh and say, do you believe in the devil? I would say to you, yes, I do, because Jesus believed in the devil. So laugh at Jesus on that one if you want to. But the Bible is clear. There is an entity called Satan, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: And he has, some power to influence people's lives. To the Bible. The devil comes to kill, steal, and Destroy. Right. Okay, so, you know, we're only. We're only telling you what, Jesus himself believed. Okay? So what I'm. What I'm saying here is this man in Michigan who went in kill all these folks at this LDS church, Saturday, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, also known as the Mormon Church. It was a Mormon church that he went into where he went with his vehicle. Okay. That is. He planned that out, of course. Okay, so a. To me, an act of mental insanity is more something that's done, without planning. It's done.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: As an emotional reaction or something that. Okay, so this right here was planned out. So now he may have had a mental breakdown. Breakdown. But if you go so far as to say, I'm going to take my truck, I'm going to plow it into a church, and I'm going to. And I've got. He had two American flags on the truck. It was strange. I mean, strange. I, mean, you go under. What's the political statement he's trying to make? Or what is he trying to say? And then he. He goes into this church and kills these people. And the, police shot him. Right? That's what they said. So I would say that's. That's evil. Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, absolutely.
>> Steve Crampton: The plotting that you referred to, that's exactly how it will be argued in court would be if the man has.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he's dead. Yeah.
>> Steve Crampton: You say you cannot claim mental insanity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Crampton: If, in fact, you plotted this thing, these plans were apparently pretty detailed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like the young man, who killed Charlie Kirk, he planned that out.
>> Steve Crampton: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So that's not insane. You're not insane if you can say, you know, I need a gun this size. I need to make sure that I can escape.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I need to be on top of a building. All this is premeditated. So that's. Yes, it is evil. I mean, it is evil more than it is mental derangement, in my opinion. So fair decision. Yeah.
CNN quoted the White House saying he hated Mormons
All right. so, we don't know. We don't know exactly how is the White House. So you're saying the White House is saying he hated people of the Mormon faith.
>> Chris Woodward: That's what CNN just quoted the White House. The same.
>> Tim Wildmon: What do you. You don't know what they're basing that.
>> Chris Woodward: They're basing it off of a conversation the White House had with the FBI.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: It was like, White House, colon, FBI, colon, man, faith, people.
>> Tim Wildmon: For some reason, we don't know why he hated, the Mormon Church.
>> Chris Woodward: Evil.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what it seems like because he targeted, you know, targeted that church. All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family. That's why I get. I get tired of people saying, well, he's. He's, mentally, you know.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pleading insanity and dismissing it for that. Yes.
>> Steve Crampton: On that ground.
>> Tim Wildmon: Leading insanity. Yes. somebody may be insane. There may be times an insane person goes out and howls at the moon. Okay. Or insane. To me, an insane person goes and tries to wrestle a refrigerator. Okay. They, An insane person doesn't plot and thoroughly carry out an attack that he has, coordinated everything to do. That's my view. You're listening to today's issues.
Former FBI Director James Comey indicted for lying to Congress over Russia probe
Next story.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, this is the first opportunity that we've had to be on this show and discuss this. It started on Thursday, and it's still in the news today. For people not aware of it, ex FBI Director James Comey has been indicted in connection with alleged false statements to Congress. In a story that you can find on afn.net, you'll see that Comey was charged Thursday with lying to Congress in connection with the now debunked investigation into Russia's involvement in the 2016 election of President Donald Trump. President Trump, of course, has said for years that the investigation is a, quote, hoax and also a witch hunt. and so James Comey, much to the surprise of some people, I think, has actually been indicted. Members m of Congress, Republicans, on things like House committees, would say they were leaning in this direction or they were warning they would do this. I think some people maybe doubted that they would actually move this far, but they actually did, and they've gone so far as to indict a former FBI director.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Steve, this is why you're in here, man. It's your time to shine. You ready?
>> Steve Crampton: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Crampton: Hit me.
Department of Justice indicted former FBI Director James Comey for lying to Congress
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, what. What, How is James. Who. Indicted former FBI Director James Comey, and why was he indicted?
>> Steve Crampton: Well, Pam Bondi's Department of Justice indicted him, and it goes back to testimony that he provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee almost exactly, by the way, five years ago. Tomorrow will be five years. and hence the filing of the charges. Now, the statute of limitations was about to run out. Okay? So the. It looks fairly benign in the sense that he's testifying before Congress, is answering questions. And one of the questions that Senator Cruz, in particular, put to him was, did you ever authorize the leaking of classified information to the media regarding, in particular, the investigation of Hillary Clinton's Email private server scandal. And Comey testified I did not. Basically. Now there's the Inspector general's report in 2018 that found, that they test had Andrew McCabe, who was Comey's deputy director, testify. McCabe testifies, I leaked and Comey authorized it. Strangely enough, the Inspector general ends up concluding McCabe was lying. So Cruz is sitting here saying, okay, either McCabe is lying or Comey's lying. Somebody. These stories are irrelevant, irreconcilable. Right. So they indict Comey. And in the indictment, which all have read, it's really cryptic and it's the most basic kind of understated, prose you can imagine. and they do this often, but they Refer to a person 3, he's not identified who is it exactly. Speculation is, as y' all probably know, Fred, that it was his longtime friend, personal lawyer, fellow named Daniel Richard Richmond, who indeed did leak some stuff. So it's yet to be determined exactly how this happened, but the significance is the law prohibits absolutely the lying to Congress when they're conducting an investigation. They were in the middle of an investigation. Somebody's lying.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, the big picture here, just to remind people, and we all live this for a couple of years during the Mueller investigation. The big picture here is the Democrats and their sympathizers and supporters, including the deep state and in this case the FBI, they tried to kneecap Donald Trump, before and after he was elected with made up junk. Okay, that, that, that. And, and if you remember, this was coming on the heels of James Comey, the then FBI director, covering for Hillary Clinton. Well, what do you say? What do you mean covering for? That's how I interpreted it. Remember when James Comey had the press conference, Hillary Clinton was, was using a private Internet server at her home so that. To do State Department business, which is illegal. That's right. But she did that so she couldn't be held to account by congressional oversight because they wouldn't have access to this server. Right. You're supposed to do your, you're supposed to perform your job duties on a government server. So it will for security reasons, number one. But number two is so that. Because it's in case you're ever asked to provide documents or whatever.
>> Steve Crampton: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: to keep people honest. All right, well, Hillary Clinton decided she would bypass that. Well, when it came time to, for the FBI to say, well, she needs to help be held account for this, James Comey said, no, she doesn't. I'm paraphrasing now.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because no Reasonable prosecutor would do anything about this. And I'm not going to either. Right. That's basically what he was. Am m I right? He gave her a pass. He gave her a pass on something so serious. And then he decided James Comey did to go after Donald Trump on Russia, Russia, Russia, the FBI. And. Correct. I don't want to be unfair here to James Comey the FBI, but the FBI believed that are acted like Donald Trump was a Russian asset.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's fair, huh? That's what they were accusing him. He and his team were acting on behalf. They were Russian assets, they were being promoted by the Russians. They did a two year investigation on this and came up with nothing. Okay. So here, I'm leading up to this. I'm not sure when this. Does it, Brent, does it say when this interview was? Okay, I want you to listen to this because this was the most to me disgusting that my, my take on this interview with James Comey who by the way was well respected.
>> Steve Crampton: He sure was.
>> Tim Wildmon: prior to all this from people on the right and left, I.
>> Steve Crampton: Had friends that worked in the FBI for him and they thought the world of him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So he had a good reputation before all this happened among conservatives and Republicans. But he may have even been a Republican himself, I'm not sure. But he, he had it out seemingly for Donald Trump. So here's what you remember when General Michael Flynn, they indicted him, basically ruined the man's life.
>> Steve Crampton: Yes, they did.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was a patriot. He was going to work for the new Trump administration as what, National Security advisors.
>> Steve Crampton: Correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like that was a high, high profile job. And so, and then all of a sudden he's indicted. General Flynn over, over what exactly? Well, the way that this went down, this indictment, the way that they, I, Entrapment.
>> Steve Crampton: It really looked like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I'm not using legalese here folks. I'm using, I'm using the word entrapment as Tim's interpretation of what happened to the man. Okay. So.
Tim Noah: Comey set up Flynn for interview, then lied to FBI
Yes, but he was indicted. He, he eventually he lost his job.
>> Steve Crampton: He, he lost his home.
>> Tim Wildmon: He lost his home because. Illegal fees, everything, Everything. So it was, it was just a tragedy what happened to the man. and then James Comey went on television and talked about how he went about getting bragging. General Flynn, we have, we have that. I think we have, I just asked Brent to find that. We have that. Can you go ahead and play that, Brent? Is he pleading the Fifth? Huh? Is this, you have, is this Miranda do you have the right to.
>> Steve Crampton: May I just add, the setup here, Comey's involvement. He sent those two agents in to talk to Flynn in basically a friendly. Let's just, you know, catch.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's where he describes in this interview.
>> Steve Crampton: Okay. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen to this.
>> Steve Crampton: Okay.
>> Jeff Chamblee: I sent them, something we. I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more organized administration in the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration, the protocol. Two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for, over the last two years. And in both of those administrations, there was process. And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, and there'd be discussions and approvals, and who would be there. And I thought, it's early enough. Let's just send a couple guys over. And so, we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple guys over. Hope, you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room at the White House situation room, and he lied to them, and that's what he's now pled guilty to.
>> Fred Jackson: What did he think they were coming over there for?
>> Jeff Chamblee: I don't think he knew. We didn't tell him. Just so we got a couple sending over a couple of agents. I want to ask you some questions. I didn't have this conversation. My deputy director did. But Hope, Hope you got a few minutes. You can sit down and talk to them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. Steve, what do you think, as a lawyer? What do you think about what. What he's described? And, you know, the audience must have been, oh, yeah, all Democrats are a bunch of lefties, because they're just laughing and laughing. How. How did you set up General Flynn? And then he. He tells it, and they just laugh like they. That. Like they know. It's exactly ridiculous.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah. That. That he. It was a gotcha moment. Right. It was disgraceful. It's disgraceful for the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to set up and tried to undermine, in fact, succeeded in undermining the National Security advisor. And the importance of that, by the way, the significance. Let me contrast it with now the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, who's in the middle of uncovering all of this wrongdoing. It was. I think, ultimately the term's been thrown around a lot. This was a coup against the President, the duly elected President of the United States of America that went on for basically four years. They just gutted, like you said, kneecapped the Trump administration. Comey was an integral player in all of that. And let me say this, Tim, in the context of this indictment, at the end of the day, what you have, you know, the Department of Justice has to struggle with what we know versus what can we prove. This is a pretty narrow kind of charge right now against Comey, but it opens the door to testimony from all kinds of players and may lead to a whole lot more. Really should lead to a whole lot more, because we know these kind of things were going on right now. Nothing in this indictment touches on Comey's doing that to Michael Flynn. But the importance of they're taking out Michael Flynn. He was in a position to undermine their intelligence efforts against the United States, and they had to remove him in order to continue with their plot to take Trump down.
>> Fred Jackson: I heard in Comey's voice, which you just heard there, I don't like Donald Trump exactly. I think he's a nutcase. I have great respect for Barack Obama. I have great respect for former President Bush, but I don't like this guy. So. And they're disorganized or just coming in, let's get them.
>> Steve Crampton: And he wants to be a hero for having done that.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: To that audience, just that whole description there just sounded, terrible.
>> Steve Crampton: Terrible.
>> Tim Wildmon: just disgraceful. I would say that if this were the others, you know, agreed. Somebody on our team doing that. So to speak to the other side.
Comey called Flynn and said, we're sending two guys over
You just in America, you the guy. General fans over there hanging his curtains. ah. For his new job at the White House. And you heard, you heard Comey say, I wouldn't have done it if it was been Obama and Bush. I would work through the legal. But I thought. I said I'll. He said, I called Flynn and said, we're sending two guys over. Sneak this in, see what's this about. You know, didn't even say you need an attorney present.
>> Steve Crampton: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. It's just. Wow. You use the word. What'd you say? Disgraceful.
>> Steve Crampton: Graceful.
>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.
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Tim Anderson: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meeting with President Trump
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Fred and Chris, we thank you for listening to afr. what's our next story?
>> Chris Woodward: Chris Ah, as we speak right now, Israeli, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is at the White House for talks with President Donald Trump about things involving Israel and what some nations are pushing for in the way of a so called two state solution. for people that didn't catch it. On Friday, Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke at the UN and delivered a speech for probably 20, 25 minutes. Fred on a number of things. Netanyahu, holds firm to the opinion that a two state solution cannot and will never work. he talked about how Western nations that support a so called Palestinian state or a two state solution are in fact rewarding terrorism specifically from Hamas for what they did to Israelis on October 7, 2023. and he also praised President Trump for what he called his bold and decisive action to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities with those B2 bombers several months ago. So right now Netanyahu is at the White House, talking to President Trump. Trump says that he has a plan, to bring an end to the fighting between Israel and Hamas. And I've got some audio of prime, Minister Netanyahu and in the last, I guess this morning or over the weekend saying that he hopes Trump's plan works.
>> Jeff Chamblee: Clip 1 I hope we can we can make it a go, because we want to free our hostages, we want to get rid of Hamas rule and have them disarmed Gaza demilitarized in a new future set up for Gazans and Israelis alike and for the whole region.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are meeting now at the White House right now.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm gonna post the video on our Facebook page.
>> Tim Wildmon: What, what, what President Trump said what now he has a plan What.
>> Fred Jackson: Fred, he has come out in the last couple of days that he has a 21 point plan I think has been reported, which would involve all of the hostages being released. There's 48 hostages and has been described most of those are dead, but their families want the bodies back. The report from Friday was there are 20 hostages still alive. What the White House has kind of been putting out there in dribs and drabs is that Hamas would agree to give up the hostages, all of them at once. But the devil is in the details when you talk about a 21 point plan. And I think Netanyahu was very diplomatic. He did some interviews during the weekend between the Friday speech to the United Nations. But you know what I'm, what I'm concerned about is that the President Trump, he's now good friends with the leadership of Qatar, he's good friends with some of the others who have been negotiating on behalf of Hamas. Here's what I firmly believe Netanyahu will not agree with. He will not agree, that Hamas, will still have representation in any kind of transition government. I do not believe Netanyahu will go along with, Israel cannot be involved with a security, a new security in Gaza. And Netanyahu certainly will not agree, to a Palestinian leadership that is run by the current leadership in the West Bank. He will not agree with that. Netanyahu in his speech on Friday to the United nations, one of the things that he said, and I'm sure we don't have the audio of this, Chris, he said, 90%, on, October 7, 2023, 90% of Palestinians both in Gaza and the west bank celebrated what Hamas did. They massacred 1200 Israeli men, women and children.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, we do have this audio here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Chris Woodward: It's clip three.
>> Jeff Chamblee: They danced on the rooftops. They threw candies. That's woes both in Gaza and in Judea Samaria, the West bank, as you call it. And it's just the way they celebrated another horror.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nine, eleven.
>> Jeff Chamblee: They danced on the rooftops, they cheered, they threw candy.
>> Fred Jackson: And the reason Prime Minister Netanyahu is just as concerned about the west bank is because there are Palestinian terrorists there. Those terrorists are celebrated in the west bank by the Palestinian leadership. They give money to the families of Palestinian terrorists. They name schools after Palestinian terrorists. Now, what I think Netanyahu wants, and we've seen this more and more Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Prime. Pardon me. President Trump last week said something that really troubled me. He was asked about the annexing Israel annexing the West Bank. And President Trump replied this way. He said, I will not let Israel do that. Now President Trump is praised by Prime Minister Netanyahu as being a good friend, a strong ally. But for the leader of one country to say to the leader of another country, I will not let you. That speaks of an attitude problem.
>> Tim Wildmon: He will not. President Trump saying, I won't let them do what now?
>> Fred Jackson: I will not let them annex the West Bank.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, even though it's theirs. Yeah. Okay. For those who don't know the geography and the politics of Israel, Israel obviously is a small country in the Middle east on the Mediterranean between Syria and Egypt and Jordan, surrounded by Arab countries. It's a Jewish state. inside the country of Israel there's places where the Palestinians, Arabs live primarily in the Which is inside the country of Israel.
>> Tim Wildmon: The sovereign country of Israel. And they call that the West Bank. And I don't think it has to be annexed. It's Israel. So I'm not sure what President Trump is talking about. unless there's a suggestion that they break those cities in those places up and disperse the people there, I just don't see that's going to happen. I don't think that's going to happen.
>> Fred Jackson: But no, anyway, so there's certainly no agreement. Netanyahu is very strong on this in that there's not going to be a two state solution.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's.
>> Fred Jackson: No, you can't, that's not going anywhere.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you can't put the people who want to annihilate you with an official state right up against your country. That would be, that would be insane on the part of Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli people to do that. That would be. Can you imagine Hamas with an official state? I mean, it would be. Anyway, I just don't see how that suggestions even has a chance of who said. But yet, yet France and Great Britain and some of these countries are wanting to pressure Israel to try to do that.
>> Fred Jackson: Right, Exactly. Yeah. Canada joined that. yeah, it's, I, I don't think it's going to happen, but it's going to be really interesting to see. Appare, Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump after their meeting this morning, they're going to hold a joint news conference. I am going to be listening very carefully to that.
>> Tim Wildmon: What I hope President Trump doesn't slip off into in the next three years is making statements. He's always spoke his mind, right? Pretty much. And he's always answered questions. But he has had now, not all always, but he has had some temperament, some temperance, some, some, he's smart enough to know I'm not going to be trapped by a.
Chris: I hope President Trump doesn't make Middle East policy off the cuff
That question. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna hide my cards a little bit. Do you know what I'm saying? But I hope he does just start making policy up, on what he ate for breakfast that morning and how he feels. In other words, he's a guy that's prone to speaking extempore, extemporaneously or, and making statements, you know, off the cuff. But he doesn't need to do that on. You can do that about something like golf or you can, you know, or something like, you know, I, I don't know what else. Whatever else, you know, football or something like that. You can't do that about Middle east policy.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or. I'm not saying he has, but I'm not saying. I'm saying he doesn't need to start making policy, proclamations by the seat of his pants.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: And do you, do you know what I'm saying?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: As far as his personality leans that way that he could do that.
>> Fred Jackson: And I hope we're not entering a situation where President Trump wants a win on the foreign policy front. You know, Russia, Ukraine has not worked out for him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: The way he said he was going to get that done in a few days. He said he was going to get Middle, East peace in a few days too. So I hope he's not at the point of making some compromises that would jeopardize the security of Israel.
>> Tim Wildmon: I agree. You got to watch out for that.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to Today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story. Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: let's go to Manhattan, New York.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait a minute, Chris. I got breaking news.
>> Chris Woodward: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: You mean break it?
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Before we get back to your, news, there's some major news. It's National Coffee Day.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, that's right, it is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you know this friend?
>> Fred Jackson: Huh? Uh-huh.
>> Tim Wildmon: Coffee drinker.
>> Fred Jackson: I am a coffee drinker.
>> Tim Wildmon: I am like, like first thing in the morning or what?
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, first thing in the morning for sure. I usually have two, by the time I get to work around six.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two cups.
>> Fred Jackson: Two cups.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And caffeinated, right? What are the kinds? Why drink it?
>> Fred Jackson: That's right. It's just muddy water if it is caffeinated.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And every now and then I, I like getting. Going to a coffee shop and ordering something special.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: That has, you know, maybe a different flavor.
Today is National Coffee Day, and everybody in the newsroom drinks coffee
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we're, It's pumpkin spice season now.
>> Fred Jackson: It sure is.
>> Tim Wildmon: How long does that last?
>> Chris Woodward: to November. Too long. And I think everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pumpkin spice.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Steve Crampton: Really?
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, but it is National Coffee Day. You, Chris, you drink coffee?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yes. the newsroom, with the exception of Steve and Chad, is powered by coffee.
>> Fred Jackson: I got. They get coffee, right?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And I don't know how they do it.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they're already high energy, are they, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, very much.
>> Tim Wildmon: Colleagues there, they get coffee in them. I don't want to see it.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. I like it strong. generally, the first couple of cups that I have in the morning, I like it black. And then, as I go for maybe my, you know, second or third pot of coffee, I like it. Yeah. Yeah. I like to start throwing in some creamer as I kind of wind myself down.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, I've read surveys, studies. I mean, coffee's supposed to be, on the whole, supposed to be good for you.
>> Chris Woodward: It's nature's energy drink.
>> Tim Wildmon: Healthy for you.
>> Fred Jackson: I remember, George Beverly Shea, before he passed away, did an interview when he turned 100.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And he said, he was asked, what advice would you give? Three things, he said, of course. accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior. a good wife.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: And I remember he put it this way. And coffee.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: That was the secret for 100 years.
Today is National Coffee Day, Monday, September the 29th
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, today's National Coffee Day, so I just wanted to make sure we didn't just skip that, because it's very important.
>> Fred Jackson: But here's the problem, Tim. If. If you do go to your favorite coffee shop now, the price can climb for a cup of coffee very quickly if you start adding. And I want, peach.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Or green tea added, or this or that. And pretty soon you got a $9 cup of coffee, and you say, wait a minute. Yeah, maybe I'll do this today, but I can't afford to go any further.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know what you're saying. you know, Starbucks is, They're producing their. They sell some stores and reducing their employee.
>> Fred Jackson: They are.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not doing. They're not doing so hot right now.
>> Fred Jackson: No. And I think it has to do with the economy that people, you know, they make a good coffee sometimes, but, you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but that's. Yeah. You start. People will cut their coffee if they start getting up to too high price for.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I lived, for a period of time, several years in a suburb of Birmingham, and we had three Starbucks locations within a mile, mile and a half of one another.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah, there's a lot of them out there. Absolutely. Anyway, so celebrate. we want to have a moment of silence here I think for national. Go have some when the show for National Coffee Day. Yes. In the United States, Monday, September the 29th.
Manhattan DA declines to prosecute woman who punched pro life activist during street interview
All right, next story. Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: alright, so this is a story that we have covered for several months and we actually have a story today because there's been a big update. The district attorney in Manhattan, New York has declined to prosecute a New York City woman who on camera police punched a pro life activist during a street interview. there is a reporter by the name of Savannah Craven Antow who worked for Live Action and she was doing man on the street interviews in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Manhattan even though she was a woman.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, person on the street interviews Savannah Craven Antow was working for Live Action at the time. I think she's still with him. But she was asking various people in the Big Apple about their thoughts on abortion. And there was a lady that approached her, Savannah, engaged in a conversation, with this lady who has been identified as 30 year old Brianna J. Rivers. and long story short, even though she punched her on camera and charges were filed, the Manhattan DA has declined to prosecute Brianna J. Rivers for this situation here. And Savannah Craven and tow is not happy about it. As a matter of fact I've got some audio of her on Friday saying.
>> Speaker I: This clip 15 it's absolutely disgusting. And we are going to continue fighting for justice. The Thomas More Society and I, we are going to be pursuing a civil, civil suit against this woman. This is the same district attorney office that prosecuted Daniel Penney but wants to let off my attacker with all the video evidence right off the hook with a slap on the wrist. It's disgusting. I have a question for Alvin Bragg. If I was your daughter, if I was your wife, would you have done the same thing? I think not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you see the video?
>> Fred Jackson: Oh yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this is not a small woman. No, that, that throws a punch, those two punches at her and this happened what, a year ago or so?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So but here's the greater point. Do you have a person who's doing an interview, like you said, a man on the street type interview, just walking up to people or people walk by and they say, hey, would you be willing to talk? Do you want to answer a question? And they do an on in the street interview. The young lady who's asking the questions, it's A pro life. She's m. But this other woman, who attacked her stops to answer the questions. Well, she is just, not physical, but the, the, the, the woman, who did the attacking, she gets angry at the question and just starts punching the girl. The, the, the pro life young lady who's a reporter and just unprovoked. And so what happened was here though, everything's caught on video. You can go on Fox News right now and watch it. Fox News website and watch it. And the. But here's what, here's the point that the DA in Manhattan is a flaming liberal.
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: His name is Alvin Bragg. You familiar with his name since Trump? He indicted Trump. Right.
>> Chris Woodward: We talk about him on a first name.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. So he, he is partisan. So. Because this, this is my interpretation, but I don't know how she do it. They, the DA's office conveniently said they, did the paperwork wrong. And so that's the reason they're not prosecuting this woman, who attacked the pro life reporter. Right. And you're going like, really, you did the paperwork wrong. No, you didn't want to. You wanted to pick sides in this one in your. And you're basically glad that the pro life reporter got physically attacked because you're a pro choice, what we call pro abortion proponent. All right, next story. That's, that's our crazy New York story for the day.
The superintendent of the Des Moines school district is in fact an illegal alien
>> Chris Woodward: All right, well, on this, show. Yes, let's mention this real quick too, because this almost sounded like something that was a, Babylon B type story. amidst all the, the crackdown of ice, finding illegals, people that are in the country illegally. late last week there were stories about how officials in Des Moines, Iowa, realized that the superintendent of the Des Moines school district is in fact an illegal alien.
>> Fred Jackson: You cannot make this stuff.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, yes. I mean, how in the world you got through the background check is the greatest mystery of Monday, September, whatever today's date is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you're telling me the superintendent of education for the Des Moines schools, that's probably the largest one in Iowa.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Not, not, you know, somebody that worked for the school and like the superintendent of a major school district in the United States of America is an illegal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Brad, who did the background check on this one here? so he was arrested, right?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ice.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: He tried to physically run from them.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, they've tried to physically run and they caught up with him and they found a gun in his car and $3,000. so now he is in immigration custody. This guy came into the country, a number of years ago on a student visa, overstayed that visa, and I think even, I'm just looking at it here. U.S. immigration Customs Enforcement said agents detained Roberts because he was in the country illegally, didn't have authorization to work, and was subject to a final removal order issued in 2024 last year.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: All right. So, yeah, that's the big.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You just wonder, how does the, school board not know about this? the people who recommended him for the job or who hired him, not your background check doesn't show up that this fellow is here, has overstayed student of visa from way long ago.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, your first question. Who. How is this guy vetted?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, normally for a position like this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: This isn't a janitor.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Or an elementary school teacher.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: This guy who runs of the city.
>> Tim Wildmon: Superintendent of the city schools in Des Moines, Iowa.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. High paying job, I assume.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, he has been there. There is an update with this.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the update?
>> Chris Woodward: The school board has responded. Ah, here. He has been put on. It just went black on me. the screen did. Is it indefinite?
>> Fred Jackson: He's placed on leave.
>> Chris Woodward: There you go.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, there you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, he's placed, Placed on leave.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. No kidding.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's gonna be leaving the country.
>> Fred Jackson: But, you know, we do a lot of story on illegal immigrants, obviously, especially over recent years and since Trump came back into office, but I have never heard of a case where a very high profile individual, a leader.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: has been in this country. Immigration has been after him, and now he's been taken into custody. I, I, There was an interview done, or there was a speech done by one of the school board members, one of the school boards, in that district. She was praising him.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: What a great job he's done. That is not the point. He is in the country illegally. He may do good things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Nobody's. This isn't a judgment about his job performance.
>> Fred Jackson: No, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is the fact that you can't live in America as an illegal, alien site. Do you should call them illegal aliens? I don't know. What? Undocumented.
>> Fred Jackson: Undocumented.
>> Tim Wildmon: Documented. I want to say, well, where are your documents? You're undocumented. Go find them. Yes, go find your documents. Anyway, this is, that is one of the most bizarre stories I've ever heard. When you have a superintendent of education for the largest school district, probably in Iowa, and then you, you find out that he's not Even a citizen.
Tim Ferriss: Democrats must stop coming up with radical ideas
All right, next story. Well, by the way, I'm Tim.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: With Chris and Fred. We're all legal citizens.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, I'll have my mom bring my birth certificate.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Get up here. Okay. She'll tell you. I remember it well. But anyway, from time to time on this show, we have audio from people like James Carville, who's been telling Democrats stop it with the woke stuff. It's costing you in the elections.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Chris Woodward: Another person that from time to time says things like that is Bill Maher. And I've got the recent, most recent example in which Bill Maher on his HBO show, a very well known liberal show and a program, and Bill Maher himself is telling Democrats stop it with this radical stuff. 1744.
>> Fred Jackson: If we are ever going to get back to the old America, that's got to be the Democrats part of the bargain. Stop coming up with radically new and often terrible ideas and then in the next breath insist there be no debate about any of it. That if you don't see it right away and go along, you're bad, stupid and deplorable. As if you were saying, duh, two plus two equals five. Isn't that obvious? Yeah, it's obvious. You can't add.
President Trump is sending troops into Portland, Oregon to protect federal property
Which brings me, me to my friends on the right to whom I say becoming an authoritarian police state, that's not going to work for you either.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah. By the way, President Trump is sending troops into Portland, Oregon.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I say, National Guards, but now it's not to police the streets.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: which I would object to unless he was invited in, he being President Trump in the National Guard. But they're being deployed, 200 to 300 of them.
>> Fred Jackson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: To maybe they're, or maybe they're from Oregon. What do you call them? Oregon. Oregonians.
>> Fred Jackson: Oregonian.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or is that what you call them?
>> Fred Jackson: Oregonian?
>> Tim Wildmon: themselves. But, but they're there to protect federal property.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Because federal property, immigration facilities have been attacked. I mean the videos out there, there's no debate about this. And so he is sending in 200 National Guard troops to guard those buildings.
>> Fred Jackson: And I mean this has got to happen. you know, he's also sending soldiers now into Memphis because the Tennessee Governor has invited him to do that kind of thing. We're living in a very, very interesting time where I know Trump gets criticized about a lot of different things, but law and order has to return to these Democrat run cities. Something has to be done. And I think the citizens at large in these cities. You know, Memphis is one of the crime leaders in this country.
>> Tim Wildmon: Per capita, it's maybe the worst.
>> Fred Jackson: And so, something has to be done to curb the crime waves for the sake of the citizens who live there. Yeah, they live in fear every day in these cities.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I sympathize with what you're saying here. On the other hand, these people still vote for Democrats. Yeah. who, And they vote for soft on crime candidates oftentimes. So to me, these big city citizens who vote Democrat soft on crime policies, they're living what they're voting for in many respects, but. Yeah, but still that the crime in somewhere like Memphis, for example, that affects not only just one neighborhood, but the city at large. So, anyway. All right. We will be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.
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