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Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman

>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to the program, and we appreciate you always. Listening to American Family Radio, I'm Tim with Ed. And now Steve Paisley. Jordan joins us on this Monday morning.

A Southern Baptist church in Mississippi is run entirely in a prison

Good morning.

>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody. How you all doing?

>> Tim Wildmon: Good weekend. Steve, for you there, I did.

>> Steve Jordahl: I got to just preview this. my wife and I went to a Baptist meeting. there's a group of Baptists, the, ah, State convention. Like it's a convention, but it's only a couple counties wide. But this convention welcomed a new church into their, membership. And this was a church that was run entirely in a prison. The pastor is a prisoner, as an inmate, all the elders, they have the whole thing set up as a Southern Baptist church and it's inside a prison. New, Orleans Seminary went into prisons for a while back in Louisiana, and now they're doing it in Mississippi and started offering degrees.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow, that's great.

>> Steve Jordahl: And, this pastor got his Masters of Divinity from New, Orleans. Not a, you know, not a miniature version of that. The whole thing. Learned Greek, learned Hebrew, had to do the whole thing. And, he's now the pastor of a church, thriving, ah, church in, in a prison here. And I, I'm still trying to figure out which exact prison it is because I'm going to go there. They have services on Saturday afternoons and my wife, I are going to go, I'm going to do an interview and I will do a story and we're going to see if we can get this guy on ti.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, many, many positive aspects of that, obviously. but here's one you probably didn't think of. Steve. At least the church doesn't have to worry about. About the pastor being quote, unquote, led to a bigger church.

>> Steve Jordahl: No kidding.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He's gonna stay right there.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, as long as he's in. I don't know how long his.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think he's in for life.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: But he said it was really interesting because he said, you know, I, I found myself in prison just utterly ripped apart, Just, just dejected and just torn up. And it wasn't because I was in prison and I'm away from my family because I was. And it wasn't because I thought I wasn't guilty, because I was guilty. It was because the word of God got a hold of my Soul, my heart and convicted me of. Of sin.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think this is great that you're going to cover this story, and hopefully you can get in. I. You have to. I think you have to apply, and they have to do background checking, whatever.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, the warden was there with him when they brought him to this thing. He was in full, you know, garb, the striped pants and the whole bit. and the warden came. I talked with her. She said she'd be glad to. The whole prison has come to Christ. In fact, the warden and all of the leadership, of that prison have become Christians through this whole revival.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's incredible.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, I'm going to talk to you after the show. some other ways we, can make this story public, because this is a wonderful story, and let's not kid ourselves. That is the only thing that can truly turn our country around is seeing, the gospel have that kind of success and changing hearts.

>> Steve Jordahl: Absolutely.

Nicholas Rosky plotted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh

>> Tim Wildmon: Next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, in, June of 2022, a man named Nicholas Rosky decided he had had enough with the Supreme Court and, hatched a plot to come and assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. He was unsuccessful, very fortunately, but he was arrested and he was convicted. And sometime between his arrest and his conviction and his sentencing, which is yet to happen, he decided he wanted to wear a dress. And all of that came with. You understand what I'm saying? Right. And now he wants to be called Sophie. And, everybody's playing along with it, including the judge. This is, to me, astounding. This is the judge in talking about sentencing this man who thinks he's a.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sheep, are you going to quote from the judge?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: so the background is that, Rosky's sister came out as gay two years before, and the parents had a hard time dealing with it. Right. But now the mother, Colleen, says that she has attended pflag, which was Parents and Friends of Lesbian and Gays meetings, and learned about the LGBTQ community. And she's committed to going on this journey with. And she called her son Sophie. So she has turned completely pro gay. And this is what the judge wrote in the, sentencing, statement.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is the man, who drove 3,000 miles to attempt to assassinate Judge justice, Kavanaugh.

>> Steve Jordahl: And this is what she wrote. I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Rosky family accept their daughter for who she is.

>> Tim Wildmon: It has nothing to do with the case.

>> Steve Jordahl: apparently, it does to her, because listen to this. She said. And this is again in her. In her writing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Federal judge.

>> Steve Jordahl: Federal judge. Let's not hide the fact that President Trump issued an executive order saying transgender inmates would be assigned to prisons with their biological sex. The judge stated that she was worried that he wasn't going to be getting hormones. Because President Trump has also talked about not doing that. She says, but there's an injunction against that. And this is what she writes. Listen, this astounds me. With the injunction in place. The injunction meaning he can get hormones in prison, Ms. Ms, she calls him, Ms. Rosky could receive gender affirming care. It's what, another euphemism? But if that injunction goes away, she could be denied it. So when I sentence her, I take into account that she is a transgender woman.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is unbelievable.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I would just say if Congress was operating the way they should be, and.

>> Steve Jordahl: This includes Republicans, he got 97 months, by the way, in prison.

>> Ed Vitagliano: How many years is that? So was that seven years? they. This judge should be impeached.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And removed from the bench.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That is not a legal ruling, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's a. That's the ruling of an LGBTQ activist.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Who.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who, talking about the daughter of the mother or, who's the.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Sister.

>> Tim Wildmon: The sister of the would be assassin of Judge Justice Kavanaugh. And the federal judge, in her opinion, is commenting on that kind of a sideline issue just to get her pro lgbtq, points in that. I mean, that's. Yeah, you're right. A federal judge who does something like that should be impeached. Now, hopefully, her ruling will be overturned.

>> Steve Jordahl: well, this is a sentencing, so I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: It won't be overturned then. Never mind. It won't be. Okay, then I'll bet you this federal judge just decided she would write this. Her, you know, her thesis.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And. And get it in, get it, get it out there for the record so that, you know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And by the way, it's eight.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's close.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's eight years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Eight years.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Eight years for trying to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Steve Jordahl: By the way, in this article, that's from not the be that I have, it says in court, Rosky appeared as a tall man with a deep voice. His online post show that even as a, quote, transgender, he's still attracted to women and he wants to go to a women's prison.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're gonna. You're gonna find that happening more and more in these blue states that allow for this kind of, absurdity. I mean, if I'm going to be Convicted of a crime I got to go to jail for. Put me in the women's jail.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?

>> Ed Vitagliano: that's clearly what's going on.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't want to mess with these rough dudes who are going to do bad things to me potentially. I just go, I'll go over there with the girls.

>> Steve Jordahl: If a high school student is going to wear a dress just so they can get a medal, how much more would you want to wear a dress if it gets you out of a lifetime in prison?

Trans ideology states, you don't have to transition

And we've been in this prison.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And by the way, the trans ideology states, you don't have to transition. Just, just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just to claim to be. Like, if I want to say I'm a woman, you've got no right to say, well, then you're going to have to transition. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know.

Jordan Peterson is a counselor, uh, and a former professor

All right, next story. Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Hey, I don't know. Did you guys know that Jordan Peterson's been sick? No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I know he's had some health issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: Tell people who he is.

>> Steve Jordahl: Jordan Peterson is a counselor, and a Canadian, former, professor who now is podcasting. But he was one of the first people to come out and say, I refuse to use. To be told how to use pronouns. and so he's conservative, family oriented. In the recent, years, he's been doing, more secular takes on Bible, books. Books of the Bible.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, he, as far as I can tell, he's not a Christian. Well, he seems to be fascinated with the Christian faith.

>> Steve Jordahl: He is. And that is up for debate. that's. We don't know. His daughter, however, I think is, his daughter. His name is Mikella, and she does a show with him. now they take as kind of a counseling kind of show.

>> Ed Vitagliano: By the way, Can I just interrupt here just a second, just so people don't misunderstand me when I say he's not a Christian. He's been asked directly on podcasts, are you a Christian? And he does not seem to want to answer that. Okay. I'm not sure why that is. He may have his reasons. My take is, if you're a Christian, you say so. But to your point, he may, again, he may have his reasons for wanting to, not make that public at this time. So.

Jordan Peterson's father was hospitalized this summer with neurological issues

>> Steve Jordahl: So anyway, his daughter gave an update on his health, and I wanted to help, play. Play that for you. Cut 15.

>> Mikella Peterson: The summer has been exceedingly difficult. Dad was in an ICU suffering from pneumonia and sepsis after dealing with a host of neurological issues. This Summer that we believe stem from sirs, which is chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of mold exposure. We don't have a better explanation for his neurological symptoms at the moment other than spiritual attacks. He's been suffering for the last number of years with unexplainable neuropathy and weakness amongst other symptoms. But they worsened this summer after he cleaned out his parents basement after his dad, my grandpa passed away. We weren't able to communicate with dad really all of September, but after almost a month in the icu, he's been moved out to a less urgent floor. Praise God for that.

>> Steve Jordahl: she goes on in writing to say she understands that this could be a spiritual attack. Her daughter, infant daughter, was also taken ill, very ill at about the exact same time. And she says, we know that, we do know that all things can work together for good. And she says prayers are much appreciated. And she cites Ephesians 6:12.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well that. She sounds like a sure enough Christian. Yeah, she's and that, is this the daughter that had to go on that carnivore, diet because she had, I think she had like rheumatoid arthritis or something. I'm not aware of that really badly. And the carnivore diet turned that around for her. If it's, if it's the same daughter, I don't know how many kids they have or anything. I didn't know, she and Jordan Peterson have had health issues in their lives. And so folks, wow. I, I did not know this about Jordan Peterson. I'm a big fan of his, conservative worldview and his abilities to just so boldly fight against the, the woke and pro trans crowd. so please be praying for Jordan Peterson. and he has, I think he has struggled with what you would consider to be spiritual warfare.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he overcame an opioid addiction, several years ago.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: And Mikella is the daughter who is on the carnivore diet and improved her health. Well being.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry, I think I know the answer to this, but what, what exactly is a carnivore diet?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think it's just all meat.

>> Steve Jordahl: It eliminates all plant based foods including fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so, so this person would not marry a vegan, Right?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it would be like, Right. What's the. Jack Spratt could eat no fat. His wife could eat no lean. They could, they could do one of those kind of things.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I forgot all about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that like a rap song or a nursery rhyme?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a nursery rhyme.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wait, hold on. I know Jack and Jill.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Remember Jack Spratt. You don't?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I've heard that name.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He was, he was about 5 foot 8. He had red hair, and his wife was blonde.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, did they live by that lady with a bunch of kids and a shoe?

>> Steve Jordahl: They might have.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think they. I think they did. They came to one of our last, AFA retreats. You probably. You would remember him if you saw him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Jack Sprat.

>> Steve Jordahl: Here it is. Clean. Jack Spratt could eat no fat, while his wife could eat no lean. And so between the two of them, they licked the platter clean.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I've done bad manners, actually, I've done that many times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Inappropriate tableside manners right there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Table. Hey, but that's good. Thank you for that. folks, please be praying for people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Really just eat all. There are people that eat.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We've got a couple here to do that. I'll tell you afterwards. I don't want to say.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, well, but I mean, will they have bread?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I think I'm right on that. They.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's just meat all day, every day.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just meat all day, every day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. Okay. Like, no vegetables.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, now Brent Creeley's looking. Looking at me. Are you wanting to say something?

>> Tim Wildmon: I was just gonna say if I.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Was gonna go on a diet, sign me up for that one. Well, now, it's not. It's not going to be the cheapest diet in the world, but, yeah, I'm with you. I would. I would rather do that than, than some of those other diets.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then, like. Okay, well, I just didn't. I felt I understood a, carnivore diet, but that, to me, that would mean you can eat meat and then you can also eat, like, you know, a, roll or some. But I guess it's just all meat all day.

Steve: NFL announced that Bad Bunny will do halftime show this year

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's all meat every meal, however many meals you have.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay, then.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: next story. Steve. Steve. by the way, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed and Steve Paisley. Jordan. Now Steve's bringing us the news of the day. What's your next story, Steve?

>> Steve Jordahl: We told you, last week sometime that the NFL announced that some artist named Bad Bunny was going to be doing the halftime show this year at the Super Bowl. That's always a big Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. It's always a big get for. And Bad, Bunny is Hispanic. I understand all his songs are in Spanish.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Puerto Rico English.

>> Steve Jordahl: Puerto Rican. Will be there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Will that Hispanic in Puerto Rican?

>> Ed Vitagliano: if they speak Spanish, yes. They know they do speak Puerto Rican. I think it's probably related to the,

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, his songs are in Spanish, I hear.

>> Tim Wildmon: There you go.

>> Steve Jordahl: Okay. Anyway. And he's been known to be sexually ambiguous. He's worn dresses in public and all this kind of stuff.

>> Tim Wildmon: So that's not ambiguous. That's. Well, pretty much. Man messed up in the head. Anyway, go ahead.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So the NFL thought that was a good idea to pick this dude.

>> Steve Jordahl: Thought it was a good idea. The last several have been.

>> Tim Wildmon: You meant androgynous. That's what you meant to say.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't.

>> Tim Wildmon: androgyny.

>> Steve Jordahl: There you go. Anyway, there's a, Christian artist named Corrie Asbury who, has an interesting idea. And, this is what Corey's idea is. He thinks maybe there should be a Christian. A family friendly halftime show. Cut 14.

>> Corrie Asbury: All right, y', all, I just had an insane idea. What if we did an alternative family friendly halftime show for the Super Bowl? Every year, everyone is all up in arms about the performer for the halftime show. And I get it, because nine times out of 10, it's raunchy as heck. You're seeing stuff you don't want to see. You're hearing stuff you don't want to hear, especially for your kids. So what if we threw together an alternate show at a different venue with just the biggest Christian artist and glorified the name of Jesus on a gigantic scale at a gigantic level. I've already talked to my boy Forrest. He is down to clown. He's down to play music is what I mean. who else would you want to see? See there? My vision is this. Blow it up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Huge.

>> Corrie Asbury: Let's get a stadium. Let's go crazy. While people are glorifying money and fame and sex and all kinds of stuff that we don't want to see, we can lift up the name of Jesus.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who is that?

>> Steve Jordahl: That was Corrie Asbury. And I think actually he would actually could stand in for Brent as a. As a kind of a, sensor for our.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think that's a great idea.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it is, too.

>> Tim Wildmon: I hope they. I hope they put that together.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I think not only is it a great idea, I hope they do it every year because the NFL has given a thumbs up to some horrifying acts.

>> Steve Jordahl: If it works.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bad Bunny. This Bad Bunny rapper, he doesn't even speak English. I mean, he speaks English, but he. He Sings all his songs in Spanish.

>> Ed Vitagliano: so you say you wouldn't even know what he was.

>> Tim Wildmon: you know, there's nothing inherently wrong with that mean at all. But I mean he speaks the language of his country. I'm just saying. But to have a. This is. I know it's called the super bowl and it's around the world, but it's basically played for the American audience. And the vast, vast majority of Americans speak English and they're not going to be able to understand the words he says if he does his performance in Spanish. his name is Bad Bunny.

>> Steve Jordahl: Bad Bunny. Well, that's. That's the name he goes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Stage name.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a stage name.

Tim Ferriss: NFL should put Christian artists on halftime show

He's. It's yet another rapper.

>> Ed Vitagliano: His name is Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'd go with Bad Bunny too.

>> Steve Jordahl: Just a couple of thoughts on this. the NFL has been, spending a lot of time and money getting its games across the seas in foreign countries. Mexico, London, Germany. Every year now, and more often they're having these, games across in. In foreign countries. The other thing is with the way the atmosphere is now in this country after the Charlie Kirk memorial, etc. This has a chance of really being blowing up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they could put it. Even if they just live streamed it, I think you don't even have to be on a television network.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Put it on a live stream and show it. And I bet you they'd have millions of people join tune in if they got a bunch of Christian artists and did a halftime show there. Now you got 20, 25 minutes to perform, so you wouldn't have time for more than maybe three or four artists. But still, that'd be a great idea instead of just turn the halftime show off with Bugs Bunny and put on, Put on, What would I say instead of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You said Bug Bunny instead of.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean with the Bad. Bad Bunny. And put on Chris Tomlin and whoever else. Who else he got lined up?

>> Steve Jordahl: Just.

>> Tim Wildmon: They don't have anybody lined up yet.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, no, he. He's talked to his.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Forrest Frank, his friend Forrest Frank Force Frank. and let me just say this too. I be okay. This is gonna. I. I love this idea. I hope they like you said Tim. I hope this. I hope they do this. Okay. Now, I remember when I was pastoring, we always. We didn't have church on Sunday nights anyway. We just had Sunday morning and Wednesday night. So we would have super bowl parties and they were spectacular. We had a lot of fun, lot of food, a lot of food. A lot of fun. and there were two groups of people. I'm, not just talking about two sides rooting for two different teams. Two groups of people. There were the people who watched the game and there were the people who ignored the game and talked while the others were watching the game.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: but then wanted everyone else to be quiet when the commercials came on because you remember a lot of Marshalls. But, but the, but the commercials have been pretty bad. Just not funny, over the last, I don't know, five, six years. So you're gonna have a lot more people who'd be willing to turn off the game and go and watch a live stream of a worship.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: A time of worship. I think that's a great idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Especially with these. Put two or three of these well known artists up there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Well, Forrest Frank. It's Frank, right? Not Frank's Frank. Frank. Forrest Frank is huge. Very popular amongst young people.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: and so, from what I've.

>> Steve Jordahl: Heard, it's not the deepest Christian music. It's not even. I can write a book of theology.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. But so, you, you might get a lot of young people to tune into something like that.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

Did you know that Taylor Swift has a new album out

All right. Just to end this thing, from our favorite news source, did you know, you know, that Taylor Swift has a new album out?

>> Tim Wildmon: I am aware of that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I wouldn't. Yeah, no idea.

>> Steve Jordahl: Something about a showgirl. Anyway, she is now assuring Travis Kelsey, her fiance, that the new song Dumb Hairy Football Jock is not about him.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's from the Babylon D. Obviously I do not keep up with Taylor Swift. I do. I didn't care. Some people got all twisted up.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know who she is?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yes, I do. A, lot of people got all twisted up when she. Because at Chiefs games, she was. The camera was always panning over her in the box where she was watching. And I didn't care. I mean, you know, she was dating one of the play. You know, Travis Kelsey, if she's dating.

>> Tim Wildmon: One of them, you know a lot about her not to pay attention to her head.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and let me just say this last album that I know next to nothing about, I'm offended that it's the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Third song on there on that package.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'll tell you what.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can't. You can't. You can't exist in the US Today and not know Taylor Swift is like Elvis Presley in the 50s.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. she's probably close to that popular.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, that strata.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: She, she's very. Pop culture is just all about Taylor Swift right now.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back tomorrow with Sheraton, and we'll have a lot of fun. But we'll carry on giving you the news of the day that you should be aware of. And you have a wonderful afternoon. Keep listening to American Family Radio.