>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Ed. Ed Battagliano. And joining us in studio is, Steve Paisley Jordal. Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: I like that shirt, man.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you, Tim.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've already complimented them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pretty cool Paisley.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's a little lighter, tone paisley, but yeah, I'm enjoying this lighter tone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And it's a nice soft silk.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Paisley alive, man.
>> Steve Jordahl: I do my best.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Steve Jordahl: Huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Single handedly.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just. You and John Travolta do one of those John Travolta dances there.
>> Steve Jordahl: I remember in the 70s, you guys were both children of the 70s. You remember having polyester suits and, Oh, yes, I remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: We thought we were cool.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And now we look back, how wrong we were.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I had a leisure suit. You guys remember leisure suit.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No tie. And that shirt collar would be tucked on the outside of the. Of the suit collar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And it was. Oh, good grief.
>> Tim Wildmon: I remember bail bottoms. That. Bail bottoms have bail bottoms.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I did. I remember wearing, cream colored bell bottoms.
>> Tim Wildmon: Uh-huh.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With brown leather, patches on the knees and the pockets.
>> Tim Wildmon: I missed that one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Never made it to Tupelo.
>> Steve Jordahl: What about, what about puka shell necklaces?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I remember those. I, I didn't. I, I don't wear like much in the jewelry department.
>> Steve Jordahl: Garrett is some teen throb in the 70s. Wore one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wore what now?
>> Steve Jordahl: Puka shell necklaces.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. With shells.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they're little shells. Little shells. Looks like. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now you wear one of those as a guide. You just get beat up.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, some, any neighborhood in the country, one of those.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're not advocating for clothes. Not at all for clothing bullying, are we?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Clothing bullying.
>> Tim Wildmon: Look at what he's got on. Somebody go and rep that guy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Please tell me that's not a puka shell necklace.
You spent five years in Madagascar when your parents were missionaries there
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, by the way, just real quickly, we haven't even talked about this and our. You don't even know. I'm going to bring up Madagascar.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where you grew up. How many years did you spend there?
>> Steve Jordahl: About five.
>> Tim Wildmon: Five years. When your parents were missionaries there. That's a country, an island off the coast of Africa. Anyway, they've been mentioned in the news.
>> Steve Jordahl: Recently for they've had a big, huge, change of government. A military coup.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, we're being warned as Americans don't Travel there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, for crying out loud. There goes my vacation.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, man. I went through two. We went through two of those when in my five years in Madagascar. We went through two of those when we were there. It happens. It's a third, world country. there's a battle going on for control of the government. It's, there's a lot of tribal violence and tribal stuff going on. but yeah, they've had a lot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Of those animals always trying to get there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, no, they're trying to get away.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, trying to get away. Okay. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: you know what, in all seriousness, when those things happen, I have greater appreciation for missionaries who are in the field around the world who are in unstable and unsafe environments, and yet they continue to do the gospel and take families.
>> Steve Jordahl: the most fear filled night I have ever spent. I remember it. It still brings me chills. They had one of these coups and the president declared martial law. And it was a shoot first, ask questions later martial law. My dad was out of town and driving home, and we live on the outskirts of town, so we didn't have to drive through town. But there were no cell phones. There were no way to communicate back then.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And we, didn't know how to tell him. And so I can tell you, I mean, we were in tears when he finally pulled up and walked in. He didn't know much about it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So he didn't know that even though there was a couple?
>> Steve Jordahl: No, I don't believe he did. I don't remember that he did, but he certainly didn't stay away, which is what I told him to do. Oh, I've never been so terrified in my life.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, but he, he made it and he did okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Five years, though. You spent there in Madagascar?
>> Steve Jordahl: Very formative years. I was about, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, you learned to speak French there?
>> Steve Jordahl: I did. Well, I learned to speak French in France. Preparing to go there. Oh, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who, who, yeah. What mission agency did he go?
>> Steve Jordahl: It was, it used to be called CBFMs. Conservative Baptist Foreign Mission Society. It went, it became Venture. And I don't know if you know what it's called now, but it's the Conservative Baptist denominations, Foreign Missions, group.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got you.
Secret Service asked President Trump to take short stairs on Air Force One
All right. What's your first, story you want to bring forth?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. President Trump was forced to take the Biden stairs up the Air Force One the other day. Air Force Air. When he gets on the plane, he usually takes the big stairs. You Know, waves at the top. Well, this was in, Palm beach, so his home. He was leaving, so he wasn't going to be waving to a whole lot of people. But Secret Service asked him to hurry it up and take the short set of stairs that Joe Biden used to have to start taking because he couldn't get up the big ones. But Trump has no problem getting upstairs. But they wanted him in and off at tarmac as soon as possible because the Secret Service found a tree stand, a hunting platform on some trees with a direct line of sight to Air Force One and the stairs. So they don't know whose it was, who put it up there. They don't know anything about it, but it was a threat, enough so that they told the president, we don't want you exposed for very long at all. So we want you to, get, up those stairs quickly. Dan Bongino was on Fox News. He was talking about this cut 15.
>> Dan Bongino: I was on the phone yesterday, back and forth with the D2. The Deputy Director over at the Secret Service, Matt Quinn, great guy. They were very concerned. Their security sweep, discovered this hunting stand. The director was Kash. Patel was directly involved. Right away. I'm, on the email chain with him. He ordered an immediate, immediate response. I believe we had our plane flown down there. This hunting stand was appropriately dismantled, being flown to our, our lab. I believe it's there right now. And all of the forensic tools we have, from digital tools to biometric tools, they are all going to be applied to try to find out who put this up there, and why. This is a zero fail mission, Lawrence. Zero fail. You can't have a mistake here. It's just not. Having been a Secret Service agent and now an FBI agent and with the nypd, I can tell you this is one of those missions where there's no do oversight.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That. That is scary. I don't. I, So I'm not trying to be critical of anybody here. Why it seems like the. You would have a regular sweep of all the areas surrounding Air Force One.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's probably how they found it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, but, I mean, it's been up there for a while. I don't know. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: They don't know how long it's been.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If it, if it's brand new, then that's.
>> Steve Jordahl: It might be that, they just found it. I. I haven't read anything about whether it's old or new.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. Because that's. I mean, there are hunters out there who can shoot for hundreds of yards.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you don't want, like. Like Bongino said, there's no do overs on this.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, when you're a Secret Service, you can't. You can't be wrong once.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: They have to be right all, every day, all day, all the time. so extremely, high pressure job, but, you sign up for it. And. And these people are pros, and they're.
>> Steve Jordahl: Very proud of what they do.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, you know, that's. Yes, that's. So they. They found this, discovered this, and then made the president. They didn't want him elevated. They want him going up that many steps when you could go up, half.
>> Steve Jordahl: Half that many in the back of the plane. Yeah. It's a. Less exposure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Out there.
Don Lemon advocating armed resistance of ICE agents on podcast
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story. Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it's a good thing that they didn't ask Don Lemon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don Le.
>> Steve Jordahl: whether he, how to protect the government, the president from gunfire, because, well, I don't think he would. So Don Lemon was on a, podcast, and it was called the Left Hook with Wajat Allie. And his name is Wadjat Allie. W A J H A H A T Allie.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't know who Wajat is?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I had a class with him in college, but it's been so long ago.
>> Steve Jordahl: M. He now has a podcast. He's a very liberal. He's on the left. So. Okay, the Left Hook. anyway, he had Don Lemon, the former, CNN host guy. And, let me tell you, Don Lemon is not happy with what ICE is doing in this country. Ah. And he's making it known he's kind of using some tropes, that, aren't happening. Like, ICE is going door to door collecting citizens. and he, had this to say. Cuddle oven.
>> Don Lemon: Black people, brown people of all stripes, whether you're an Indian American or a Mexican American or whoever you are, go out in your place where you live and get a gun legally. Get a license to carry legally. Because when you have people knocking on your door and taking you away without due process as a citizen, isn't that what the Second Amendment was written for? Go back and read what the Second Amendment says, and perhaps it will knock some sense in the head, in the heads of these people who are saying, well, it's all great. I don't believe they're doing it without due process. They're asking people for papers. They're not really beating people up. These people are doing things that are illegal. Nobody is illegal. It is A misdemeanor to cross the border.
>> Steve Jordahl: We could deal with that whole, inconsistency at the end, but he. That many people saying he is actively calling to assassinate ICE agents, he should. the Secret Service. The Justice Department needs to pay him a visit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. First, I don't know what was going on with his voice. Unless he had to go to the dentist or something. That's not his normal. That was a significant lisp for Don Lemon. I don't. I don't know what that was about. That's not his normal voice.
>> Steve Jordahl: But you saw it was him, Yo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I saw. It's. It's. It was Don Lemon. but, that's exactly what he was calling for. He was calling. First of all, I am just stunned by the hypocrisy of members of the left. He's not the only one talking about getting guns here. These are people who regularly say, we need to get rid of guns unless we need them. Okay. And so, I wanted to deal with that as well. But he is absolutely calling upon people who are here illegally to go legally. Okay. I don't know how you legally. If you're illegal, how you legally get a gun. Okay. Because you have to go through a background check. I have to go for a background check.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a very good point. That just sort of kills his whole theory there.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think he's thinking that they're coming and deporting citizen, like, Mexicans, and that's not true. I. Well, but.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, but it. Wasn't he saying, if, if ICE is coming.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So why would I. Is he. Is he.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's advocating. Can I just cut to the chase for you right here? He's advocating armed resistance of ICE agents.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what he's calling for. Get yourselves a gun, and when they come to your door, you tell them, get, out of here. I'm going to shoot you. Yeah, That's. That. That's the, essence of what he's advocating for Don Lemon there.
>> Steve Jordahl: And they have been up on top of, roofs, trying to shoot down at ICE agents.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what? We wouldn't have this problem that Joe Biden not let the world come into our country four years ago. Yeah. Does it look bad when. When ICE agents have to wrestle people to the ground? yes, it looks bad on video, of course. You didn't see what led up to that. They just. The left just shows you them getting into physical altercations. It would also help that these people wouldn't resist ice. It's like with the case with many police officers, when you see police officer having to fight people and they subdue them and they get their, they get their knees on their back or whatever like that, and you're going, come on, man.
Some of these ICE arrests look bad, but they're necessary
That, that's. Is that so necessary that police have to act like that? Can't they be a little bit nicer or gentler? well, again, they don't show you what led up to that. They don't show you. Like, the other day there was a video, and it showed the cop having to wrestle this woman to the ground. They didn't show you. Well, they did in this case, because I saw it. They showed the video where the woman bit the cop, bit him. Do you know what kind of reaction you have when somebody bites, you know, dog or a toddler bite you? You get, you get,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, that provokes a fighter. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, I'm just saying that that's natural human instinct. But what I'm saying to you is that, these arrests that ICE are having to make, they're arresting people that are either involved, in gang activity or. Or drugs or some other kind of criminal, activities, or they have a, deportation citation that they haven't honored. Is that the right way to phrase that? Do you know what I'm talking about? This is. In other words, they had a, they were supposed to show up in court 15 years ago because they were. Had a deportation hearing, and they never showed up in court. So these things. These things are being enforced now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: And sometimes it, quote, looks bad. There, was other. The other day, there was a fella, he had a son who was a Marine, and he was at the ceremony for his son graduating from the Marine Core in California. Well, when he left there, the ICE agents arrested him. Why? Because he was here illegally and had been. Had a deportation hearing that he missed.
>> Steve Jordahl: Something difficult. There are difficult cases, not that they're wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you're. The human instinct in you is going, come on, man, can we really have to do this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, then you have to say, well, either we have laws or we don't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you knew you're supposed to show up for your hearing and you didn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, yes. So. So I'm just saying it. I will admit it does. Some of this stuff does look bad, and it does make you want to say, do we really have to do it this way? That is rough people up and arrest people who have sons in the Marine Core and things like that. And Then you have to step back and go, why are we in this mess? Why are these ICE agents having to do this? Well, because Joe Biden literally let the world come in. Like 15 million people poured into our country. He never tried to stop it at all. And, and remember, and Kamala Harris, she didn't want to do anything to stop it either. They wanted these people to come in my, my voice going up and it's going up. Tell me if I reach where, where you can't hear me anymore.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you reach Lemon Stage, would you rail me back?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, reel me back in. Anyway, I just get, bothered because, these ICE agents are having to do this because Biden let Everybody in. Like 15 million estimated people in. Remember those, remember that? Remember all those people just pouring over our borders? Well, they went somewhere. They went all over the country. And, and now somebody has to clean that up. And. But the reason that Biden and the Democrats want people, they don't want borders is because they want all these people to come in and they want them to get ready, get, have a pathway to citizenship. They get legalized and then they become voters and then they vote Democrat all day every day. And they, they. It would be that, that, that is the end of the Republican Party as we know it. If in fact of any opposition party, to the Democrats, if you're allowed to let millions of people come into the country, get them and then have a pathway to citizenship, then they get legal, then they vote.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think you have to wait that long before it has political ramifications. Because the way they do representation, assign the number of congressional seats to a state is by the census. And the census counts people, legal or not. If you're a human body, you get counted in the census. So all these illegal aliens, that are being counted. Are being counted. Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And that's, that's how they assign seats. And that's why with the Trump administration deporting and then people here illegally self deporting.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's reaching numbers where it could affect now Democrats number of seats.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, and the self deportation is working too, isn't it? I mean they're paying for people to you, you can, you can leave the country and we, we the United States federal government pay you to do so. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then, or they just leave and they don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then you can reapply to come.
>> Steve Jordahl: Here leg you got, you get back in line. But yeah, right, they'll free flight home and they'll treat you very nicely. They're Very much appreciated if you do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Your octaves have come down now. Can you feel that
All right. You're listening to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. And my octaves have come down now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: you're doing better.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think it's taking a deep breath. Yes. I don't think my blood pressure went up, though. I didn't. I didn't feel that. Can you feel that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Can you. Sometimes you can get a little dizzy or something.
California voted to set up a panel to decide how much reparations should be
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Steve, what's your next story?
>> Steve Jordahl: Back in 2023, California voted to, set a, reparations task force. Come up with a number.
>> Tim Wildmon: How much rations for what?
>> Steve Jordahl: For slavery. So all these African, American descendants of slaves who are still.
>> Tim Wildmon: They say they had slavery in California. Thought that was only in the American South.
>> Steve Jordahl: It doesn't matter, Tim.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, they. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: If you're black in America, they say you are affected because 150 years ago we had slavery.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You might have. You might be descended from, slaves, but moved. California is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So California voted to have reparations.
>> Steve Jordahl: They voted to set up a panel to decide how much reparations. And here's what they came up with. They wanted, Some said they wanted as much as $200 million per person, but they were willing to start with just 200, with, just a million dollars. Now, $200 million per potential person is more money than is on the earth. It's in the multiple. Multiple trillions of dollars, and there's not that much money.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is stupid.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is stupid. Well, they realized.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are they really doing this?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, hey, here's the thing. They did set up the. They did set up the committee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Panel.
>> Steve Jordahl: The panel. And they realized because, the people that were running the panel and the people that came to the meetings wanted $200 million per. They had a way of doing. To figuring out that math. They said that was what they're worth. They say they couldn't do that. So in the end, Gavin Newsom said, well, you know, reparations is more than money. And so, he has just signed SB 518, which creates the Bureau for Descendants of American Slavery, the first ever permanent state agency dedicated to advancing reparative initiatives. They are charged with, among other things, confirming descendancy, public education and outreach, and reparative program coordination. So, in other words, they are giving the state the authority to round up all the personal genealogical genetic information of black people living in the state and storing it in a database base, which is foolproof. What could possibly go wrong?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, when you put it like that, that's Just so ridiculous. That's just. All that is, is pandering.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: to people, and to, you know, what, what do you call it? Just pandering and, trying to. Virtue signal is all that is. Just virtue signaling. That's just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Look, I, I would be worried when you start talking about, hey, we're setting up a panel to give you, every. Every black person who thinks they were or might have been descended from a slave $200 million. Bet me that some of the people who are on the list didn't go. Okay, well, we're gonna, we're gonna max our credit cards, you know, and we're gonna borrow money and get cars because we got $200 million coming. And then you find out it's not coming.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You did that already.
>> Tim Wildmon: It doesn't work. No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I. Listen, this.
>> Tim Wildmon: You.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But what I'm saying is, you know, there are some people who said, yes, I know it's your $200 billion.
>> Tim Wildmon: Come. They're dumb. They're dummies. Okay. if you did that.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got some oceanfront property and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Use some of that money to, to buy some of my land.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, go ahead, Steve.
Jane Fonda was at a ceremony meant to bless all the animals
What's your next story?
>> Steve Jordahl: last Friday. Last Friday, the, Dodgers beat the, Milwaukee. No, I'm sorry, I just lost.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, we got Jane Fonda and fried chicken.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, let's do that instead. Okay. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you. so Jane Fonda. Yeah, Jane Fonda was, at a recent ceremony meant to, bless all the animals. You know, she's a very kind hearted person. The actress, he was there to bless all the animals, at a, there's a church service that happened.
>> Ed Vitagliano: St. Francis of Assisi went to church. Yeah, the annual feast of St. Francis of Assisi.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where was that? In New York City.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was, New York City's largest gothic cathedral.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So they brought in a bunch of animals to the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Into the church.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, they did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they bless them.
>> Steve Jordahl: They showed them walking camel down. Yeah. So every year they come in, they bless the animals, and Jane Fonda wanted to be, you know, bless the animals.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sure. You would.
>> Steve Jordahl: of course, after the, after the procession of the animals, Jane Fonda headed to Harlem for the fried chicken and collard greens at Melba's.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's hilarious. She's got. Jane Fonda went to the blessing, of the animals at the church and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Then went to eat some.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, it'd be kind. Technically, we bless the animals before we eat them. Too, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's true. She was eyeing those.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not the virtue signal.
>> Tim Wildmon: She was eyeing those chickens that came marching down to get blessed. Do you think they had chickens? The chickens? How do you, control these?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm not sure that they did they bless chickens. This. It does say they bless chickens, but I'm guessing those are probably in a crate. And you just.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You just bless them, you know, while they're in bondage.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's, That's. You could free them. That'd be the best blessing they could have. Huh? am I right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I mean, yeah, that's. That's. I hear what you're saying. Fish in containers, turtles. They all. All were blessed. And I'm not mocking the blessing. There's a spiritual, you know, religious purpose for doing that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Really?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like what?
>> Steve Jordahl: But, if there was just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Saint Francis of Assisi was known for. For he. Listen, he could talk to the animals.
>> Tim Wildmon: And walk up Dr. New Little.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, maybe I'm getting this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Think you're getting your spiritual leaders. It's good that this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Walk with the animals and talk with the animals. Don't you ever read anything from church history?
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a good thing this show's over. See you tomorrow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Everybody talk to the animals.
