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>> Tim Wildmon: The issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. Today's Wednesday. Pumpkin spice month is here, people.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You can just smell it through the radio.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can. October 1, 2025. I'm, Tim Wildmon with Ed Vitagliano. Good morning. Welcome back, brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I am back with my new bionic eyes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me welcome Wesley, Wesley Wildmon. He was here with us today. Fred Jackney. Morning, brother Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Good day. Good day.
>> Tim Wildmon: But today we welcome back our brother to the land of the seeing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I just come back off cataract surgery. Had one eye done last week, one eye done the beginning of this week. And, man, I'm just.
>> Tim Wildmon: How many fingers am I holding up?
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're holding up, too.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I can even see the fingernails clearly. It's pretty amazing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, you were. Before this, surgery, you were using Coke bottles.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: glasses is what I call them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, and you were bringing that thing, anything you read. I'm not making fun.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you are.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I'm just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Coke bottle.
>> Tim Wildmon: But.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know, but to your point, I've had coke bottle glasses since I was, like, in the seventh grade. Pretty bad. Pretty bad eyesight.
>> Tim Wildmon: But now it's a new world.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is a new world. No glasses, no contacts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now there's no going back. So are you happy with it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I am. I am happy with it. And, it's like that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So it's not like the, the, the older gentleman who goes, gets his hearing aids and then wishes he didn't have them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. You can't just exchange.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I can't go back and say, I want my old ones back because they're in a, in a garbage can. But anyway, I, my wife had to go with me, obviously, because they, they do give you anesthesia and that kind of thing, and you need someone to drive you home. But, so this is Monday, and we're waiting in the, in the way in the waiting area for them to call me back. And I leaned over to my wife and I said, there's nothing but old people here. And she said, well, welcome to the club. Oh, man. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: It is weird.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You just don't think of yourself as being a part of this crowd. I was looking around. I know, but here I was having cataract surgery.
>> Tim Wildmon: I told, I told. I think I've mentioned this before, but, of course I'm 62 now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Doing it, to. I talked to 78 or 79 year old guy. He called me a kid the other day. I took that as a compliment.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, so, this is about a few months ago, Alison, my wife, we were driving down the road by our house going into town. And, as we were driving down the road, there was a. It's a two lane, you know, country paved road. And so there was this, I noticed on the right side, there was this fellow walking towards it looked like he was out like exercise and whatever, but he was just barely off the side of the road. I'm talking about 3ft of.3ft off the road. And I said to Allison, I said, that old man needs to, need to get more off the road. He's gonna get hit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, yeah, we got up to the old man and I said, Allison said, that's Andy Nash, childhood friend of mine. We grew up together. And I was thinking about. So that's the old man I'm talking about. Is your age, is my buddy, went to elementary school with. Yeah. So.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And now, now the whole world knows that you called Annie Nash and Fella.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know.
Well, it is, let's see. Expression. You are what you are. A lot to talk about today
Well, it is, let's see. Expression. It is what it is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You are what you are.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, thank you for joining us, everybody on the program today. A lot to talk about. Tim, Ed, Wesley. And Fred. And Fred. what's our first news story?
Republicans and Democrats could not come to an agreement on a continuing resolution
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the great government shutdown kind of has begun at 12:01 this morning Eastern time, because Republicans and Democrats could not come to an agreement on a continuing, continuing resolution.
>> Tim Wildmon: Disappointing.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, disappointing. Anyway, the, there was a vote in the Senate. The Senate didn't get the 60 votes required. And so we are into officially a government shutdown. However, there are many, many, many exceptions. Okay, so if you're getting Social Security, you'll still get your Social Security, Medicare is still operating. It's interesting, like the irs, it continues to operate. TSA continues to operate, although, some of the air traffic controllers aren't getting paid. But because they're in a category, called essential, they are still there. That's kind of scary. You're required to show up for work, but we're not going to pay you. there are going to be cutbacks in national parks and that kind of thing. In the first few weeks, we probably won't notice a big change. But, as people are officially furloughed, like there's, I mentioned the irs, apparently some government departments have a kitty where they have money set aside for these kinds of things. And so they'll continue to operate for a couple of weeks. the last government shut down, 2018, I think it was, lasted 30, 35 days, something like that. In this particular shutdown, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats, saying the Democrats want to continue a Biden era policy that saw, taxpayers dollars go towards illegal immigrants for health care. All right, so that is a big issue. Vice President J.D. vance was on Fox and Friends this morning to talk a little bit about that. Cut number 13.
>> Jeff Chamblee: This is a Democrat talking point. They say we're not actually trying to give health care benefits to illegal aliens. And here's why. It's not true. There are two Biden era programs that explicitly gave the taxpayer health care money to illegal aliens that we turned off when President Trump took over, in January. Program number one is there's a lot of emergency health care at hospitals that are provided to illegal aliens that was funded by the federal government. We turned off that funding because, of course we want American citizens to benefit from those hospital services, not to be taxed, and then to have those hospital services go to illegal aliens. The second of which is the Biden administration gave mass parole to millions upon millions of illegal aliens and then they simultaneously made those parolees eligible for healthcare benefits funded by taxpayers.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, so as J.D. vance says, one of the big issues is the Democrats, want to turn that on again. So they got to work through that. One of the other interesting aspects of this, Trump, being Donald Trump, his team has put together a montage of Democrats who in the past have said, it is a shame, it is terrible to shut down the government. They put all this together in a montage, a video montage, and they're actually playing it outside the office of House Speaker Mike Johnson.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, this is Democrats saying it when they blamed Republicans for doing the shutting down yes.
>> Fred Jackson: So, yeah, this is a little trip down memory lane where when Democrats were saying how terrible would be to shut down the government, cut number 12.
>> Speaker F: It is not normal to shut down the government when we don't get what we want.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If the government shuts down, it will be average Americans who suffer most.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: A government shutdown means seniors who rely.
>> Ed Vitagliano: On Social Security could be thrown into chaos. Families will be hurt. Farmers will be hurt.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: It's the service members who will work without a paycheck. It's the firefighters who will be furloughed.
>> Tim Wildmon: This shutdown, you know who's gonna feel the pain?
>> Fred Jackson: You know who it hurts?
>> Tim Wildmon: You.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Everyday people and the most vulnerable.
>> Fred Jackson: Seniors, veterans, working families, hungry kids.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Y'.
>> Tim Wildmon: All.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, there you have it. And unless you're concerned about your member of Congress not being paid during this period, just rest easy. Senator RICK SCOTT. Don't worry about it. They're still going to get a paycheck.
John Mast says Congress should work with the House to get budgets done
>> Tim Wildman: Cut number five, Maybe we would focus on get our budgets done when we're supposed to. I mean, I've been up here six and a half years. We don't pass budgets up here. I mean, this doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, you know, we. We ought to pass a budget. we ought to work with the House to get our budgets done. They're supposed to be done by September 30th. I'm a business guy. Always pass budgets. And by the way, if you didn't do your job in business, you didn't get paid. You don't show up and do your job, you don't get paid. Why are we getting paid? We shouldn't get paid if we don't do our job. We figure we need to figure out how to work together to get our budgets done. It's as simple as that.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I'd like to see a vote in Congress on that. We don't get paid if we shut down.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, there's a lot here, that second part there with Rick Scott, Senator Rick Scott. That's a whole separate issue. the fact that our government, the federal government, no longer passes budgets. They just do these continuing resolutions, et cetera, et cetera. Let me set that aside for just a second. The problem here with illegal immigrants and emergency care, okay, that they are getting paid, I guess, through the Affordable Care Net act, all right, with government funds. Here. Here's the problem. most people, if you ask them, I would, I would say, I would answer yes, that if there's, a couple who's here legally and their Kid gets, you know, injured, they. There's a car accident. Obviously, I would say you take them to the emergency room. You don't let this kid bleed on the side of the road and say, well, tough luck. You should be here legally. Okay. Most people would say, obviously, you got to take care of that kid. But most Americans who've been to the emergency room anytime in the last couple of years, well, since 2020 with the Biden administration, you understand that people who are here illegally use the emergency room as their primary care physician. That's why when President Trump locked down the border and started deporting people, there were people all over the country saying, there's nobody in the emergency room waiting area. It's emptied out. And that is a separate problem that has resulted from the fact that we don't know who's here, where they are. And, so these things are distinct. An honest injury. Yes. You take care of them, whether they're here illegally or not. To me, that's a Christian thing to do. But because these people were promised free health care by Joe Biden, they're using it usually through the emergency room of your local hospital, bringing some of these hospitals to the point of bankruptcy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I tried to get myself, because I, just had surgery.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't. This government shut down, federal government shutdown. I mean, it doesn't do. It doesn't get my juices flowing at all. I, Just, as far as conversation wise.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anybody else here? You. You had your two cents.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I always have two cents.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, it is important, but they'll get it worked out. They always do. They'll get it worked out in the next few days, and then we'll be back to normal. What I think the important point here is Rick Scott, what he said there, the senator from Florida, the federal government doesn't do budgets. And, So. But that's been a. We have a divided government. 50% Republican, 50% Democrat. So you can't really, you know, you have a Democrat president, you have a Republican president. They can't really ever get together on process.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And so is memory lane for me. The. The hypocrisy that the Democrats said just a couple.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. What we were quoted there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's. That's the only. That's the story for me personally, just to remind them that they lied and that the Democrats are shutting down the government right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, anyway, a couple of Democrat senators have already caved. Senators Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada and John Fetterman. That doesn't surprise me. I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would classify that as cave. And would you, Fred? I think they agreed with the Republicans. They caved on their Democrat colleagues, I guess you could say.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, they, they, they didn't accept a pressure from Chuck Schumer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Initially they weren't. Were going to shut down the government.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But then they've changed their mind.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now they shut down the government. No.
Tim Ferriss: One Republican did vote against this, joined the Democrats
You got a quote we want to play.
>> Fred Jackson: Also Senator Angus King. He's an independent of Maine. He also voting with the Republicans.
>> Tim Wildmon: Angus?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: M. Good friend.
>> Tim Wildmon: See a cattle farmer. Did there.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: But I think I agree with you, Tim. I don't think this will last long. We have an election next year. people have long memories. And, and I think these there. The, Fox and friends were mentioning several other Democrats that will likely last a few days. One Republican did vote against this, joined the Democrats. And, that's, Rand Paul from Kentucky.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He doesn't do continuing resolutions, I don't think, if that's what they call it. He, you know, he's been that way forever, if I can remember. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: he and his dad, Ron Paul, they, they're constant. They're serious constitutionalists. Ron Paul is dead. And then Senator Rand Paul, they, they know that the way Congress does things, this is both parties, is not the way they're supposed to be doing it. They're supposed to be, you know, voting. We've said on this show before, you ought to have a transportation bill, and you don't stuff it with pork from all these local districts and, and states that have nothing to do with transportation. If it's a transportation bill, if it's a defense bill, if it's an education bill, whatever, it deal with that topic. And it should be up and down votes, but you have these huge omnibus bills and everybody says, well, you got to vote for it or you'll shut down the government.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. And this is, this is ridiculous to do business this way.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues. Enough federal government shutdown talk here. Anybody else got anything you want to get off their chest on this? Huh?
>> Wesley Wildmon: No?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, next story.
Turning Point USA held first large gathering in Utah since Charlie Kirk's assassination
>> Fred Jackson: All right, Turning Point usa, last night held their first large gathering in Utah since the assassination of their founder, Charlie Kirk. And it was a big one. This one took place at Utah State University in Logan, which is about two hours north of Utah Valley University, where Kirk was killed on September 10th. And last night, if there's any indication that turning point USA is going to survive this. They had over 6,000 people at this gathering last night. Want to play a little montage of some of those who attended this big event last night in Utah? Cut number six.
>> Speaker F: I'm not here to eulogize Charlie Kirk. I am here to pass the torch on to every single one of you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Charlie was such a good friend. So inspirational.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's so exhilarating to see so many people here.
>> Fred Jackson: Just grab hold that mantle and keep going.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And don't. Don't ever slow down.
>> Speaker F: Evil thought that it could silence him, but evil forgot something. Martyrs don't disappear. They multiply.
>> Jeff Chamblee: This was more than just an attack on Charlie Kirk. This was an attack on free speech.
>> Tim Wildman: It was attack on America.
>> Jeff Chamblee: It was an attack on American ideals. It was treasonous.
>> Tim Wildmon: Charlie's answer to that was, be courageous. Live a glad life of value and meaning, and do something meaningful with your life, because life is bigger than you.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, there you have it. Very strong emotional speeches.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was that at the same university he was killed at?
>> Fred Jackson: No, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: This.
>> Fred Jackson: This took place at Utah, State University in Logan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: And we understand, there was a lot of extra security.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Going forward, that's just going to have to be a requirement from. From m. From now on. The. The left is increasingly unhinged and you can't. You used to be able to trust people to do the right thing. Okay, maybe you might have some shouting matches.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, that kind of thing. But you didn't. You didn't have to worry about snipers killing people from the rooftops or.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Or not just snipers, but people with guns.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Shooting people as well. So. But not the reason. The ones I think about or the trans activists that went into the Christian schools in the last two years.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nashville and Minneapolis. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. listen, this. We've all heard anecdotally about how Charlie Kirk's assassination has really touched a nerve, especially among a lot of young people. I've seen things on X, other areas and social media. I. They seem legitimate to me. I don't think these people are acting. They seem emotional and they are. A lot of people I still see, like, for example, on Facebook and X, people posting clips of Charlie Kirk interacting with people, on college campuses as people, as young people get interested in who Charlie Kirk was and what he. What he did. His common sense and oftentimes biblically based approach to certain issues is going to continue to get out there and influence people. So it just seems like God is bringing some good out of a very Terrible situation.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When was that event?
>> Fred Jackson: Class nine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Because I thought they also had one at Ole Miss.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: This was the first event back in Utah since the assassination took place.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Because there's Turning Point chapters all over the country, and there was a spike after the assassination and people trying to get new charters for their schools, to be a part under The Turning Point USA umbrella.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, I think. Yeah. What was it? 60,000 applications for charters?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Fred, next story.
President Trump promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs
Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, one of the things that President Trump promised during the election campaign last year is that if he was reelected, one of his major priorities was to bring down the price of prescription drugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: and bring down Democrats.
>> Fred Jackson: That, too.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Yeah, I think he's trying to do both.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sorry.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Doing a pretty good job of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sorry to interrupt.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. But just as an example that was given yesterday, people in other countries were paying far, far, far less for a particular drug than what Americans had to pay for a prescription drug. And so the announcement yesterday at the White House included the CEO, Pfizer, and basically they've come to an agreement, the Trump administration, with, Pfizer, at least now, and I think they're working on similar agreements with other prescription drug manufacturers, that they're going to come up with a price balance. In other words, some of the other countries that were paying, let's say 10 bucks for 30 pills may now have to pay 15, but it's going to come down drastically here in the United States. Pfizer also, as part of this announcement, said they're going to spend $70 billion here in the U.S. manufacturing, basically building plants so that these prescription drugs, as we have talked about before, instead of being man manufactured in some country elsewhere in the world, will now be manufactured here. So, it's another. It's seen as another big win for President Trump.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, my understanding was that, a lot of these companies, these, pharmaceutical companies were, charging Americans more for the same drugs that they were charging far less in places like Europe. Okay. Was that because of insurance companies here actually footing the bill for it? What was their reason for it?
>> Fred Jackson: That would be part of the ingredient. But also I think part of the conversation had to do with the price of research, and development that, and I think the Trump administration was saying that why should Americans bear the cost of. And it's very costly when you're trying to develop drugs for various diseases. That it seemed the American taxpayers Were paying far more for that reason. So I don't know whether moving the manufacturing here, there's going to be probably some special parts of this deal behind the scenes that we don't know yet by moving that here, that some of the, that cost will be absorbed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It just seems bizarre to me that Americans, and I think everybody. This should be a bipartisan thing. Okay. It seems absurd to me that Americans are paying sometimes thousands of dollars a month for a drug that they're paying 25 bucks for in Sweden. Absolutely. Same company.
>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely wrong.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is. It is wrong, wrong, wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: so this is. This is good. This is going to happen across the borders. It's just Pfizer.
>> Fred Jackson: This is just Pfizer now, but they are, my understanding from the news conference yesterday, they're working on. I, guess it's E.I. lilly, other. Other manufacturers of prescription drugs. They're working. Trying to work a similar deal out with them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Pfizer, they made enough money during COVID to carry them on for another century or so, didn't they? Yeah, they did. Well, am I right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. The shots that were mandated. I don't think the CEO had trouble paying his mortgage. Like, he's.
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You like to say that.
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
In Des Moines, Iowa, they're going to have a new superintendent
All right, we're going to take a short time out right here. Abraham Hamilton the third will be with us, when we get back from the break. Maybe you heard about this, but in Iowa, in Des Moines, they're going to have a new secretary of.
>> Fred Jackson: Superintendent.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Superintendent.
>> Tim Wildmon: Having new superintendent of, schools there in Des Moines. Because we'll tell you about the fellow that's, here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's not supposed to be here.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's a. He'd been canned, by the way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Red Sox beat the Yankees last night.
>> Tim Wildmon: What I'm talking about. Be back in a minute.
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Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network features Abraham Hamilton iii
>> Tim Wildmon: Now back to more of today's issues. Hey, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Ed, Wesley and Fred. And we thank you for listening to afr. Well, joining us now is our colleague and good friend, Abraham Hamilton iii. Abe's heard each afternoon five to six o' clock central time on the American Family Radio Network with the Hamilton Corner, that's the name of his show. Join him each weekday afternoon. so Abe, good morning to you.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Good morning.
Des Moines school district hires illegal immigrant as superintendent; now facing deportation
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, you want to set this story up for a, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: There is a man by the name of Ian Roberts. He came here several years ago. I understand you're on a student visa, which usually runs out about eight months later. But he's, he's stayed around in the country. He's done well back. A few years ago, the Des Moines school district hired him to be head of that school. It's not a small school district. 30,000 students and nearly 5,000 employees. And he got a job right at the top. And the Des Moines School board chair, her name is Jackie Norris, who by the way is running for a senate seat there. She says it's not our fault that we hired this illegal alien. Cut number 15.
>> Speaker F: The board operates in good faith in partnership with the search firm that we used. And so a search firm is hired. Very typical in a process. The board contracts with a search firm and the search firm is given a set of parameters for what we're looking for in a superintendent. We are operating on the information that was given to us and there was nothing in the information that was given to us to allude to any question about his citizens citizenship. We can tell you that on his i9 he stated he was a citizen and he provided two forms of verification, a driver's license and a security Social Security card.
>> Fred Jackson: And I guess that was enough for the Des Moines School board and they hired him. he has been paid several Hundred thousand dollars, I understand. but immigration, finally caught up with him in recent days.
>> Wesley Wildmon: $230,000 a year annually.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, not bad. Not bad. and, I recently caught up with him, and, they chased him down in a car, and there was a weapon in the car and $3,000. So.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, he got out and ran from.
>> Fred Jackson: The cops and ran and ran from them. So now he is facing deportation. And, Des Moines, as I say, is trying to explain to the public how they got this so wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: Abe's laughing. Why are you laughing, Abe? It's a serious news story.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, it is a serious news story. I'm laughing, because if you were an illegal alien, why wouldn't you come to America? I mean, you can become the superintendent of a large school district. You can make, you know, a protein.
>> Tim Wildmon: The American dream.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: I mean, you want a dream. I mean, man. I mean, Peter Pan's got nothing on this dream. I mean, this is. This is. This is absurd and uncongenable, and it is an indictment on our nation, and particularly here, the Democrat Party, because literally yesterday I played on my show audio from Chuck Schumer from 1996, where the Democrats used to decry illegal immigration. Biden used to decry illegal immigration. But in the clip I played of Schumer, he specifically said, guys, the reason why we keep having an illegal immigration problem is because we keep giving incentives for illegal aliens to come here. To have this guy, we need to find out why he's an illegal alien. How does he have a gun? The law prohibits illegal alien from purchasing firearms. $3,000 in cash, and here's a big one. I wonder what the curriculum is in Iowa. It's particularly the Des Moines School District concerning things like, oh, I don't know, open borders. You think their curriculum, would oppose the violation of our federal law concerning immigration if the superintendent of the school district is himself an illegal immigrant, it is a sad state of affairs. And last thing I'll say about this, that if we had a prior administration that was serious about illegal immigration, we could have easily rooted this stuff out, because all it took, as President Trump said when in his first joint address to the Congress, that it seems that we didn't have to change immigration laws, we just needed a new president to enforce our immigration laws. And that seems to be borne out by the facts that we're seeing play out before our very eyes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: now, this is Dr. Ian Roberts. Is that correct, doctor?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, we're not sure about it, whether it's an earned Ph.D. oh, I know the answer.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: I got an idea. Just like he has his.
>> Wesley Wildmon: His.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: His verified citizenship.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. So he's. He's been calling himself a doctor, but he never finished his doctorate degree, nor did he ever, get given a doctor's degree.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know who looks like fools is the Des Moines school board.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Come on, people.
>> Fred Jackson: And Jackie Norris, who heads that, wants to be a U.S. senator.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, she's the chairman of the school board.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
Iowa superintendent Ian Roberts allegedly lied about being a citizen
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, let me ask you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Look, let me just ask you a question, huh? Okay. How, And I don't know. I seriously don't know the answer to this. How, frequently is the process like the one that took place here in Iowa where they use outside firms? I used to call them headhunters.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I mean, that. That seems like lots of corporations would go that route and lots of, school districts would go that route. anybody know the answer to that?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think you're allowed to use headhunters anymore.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Headhunters around the world.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a stereotype, like Tarzan movies from way back. So don't. Well, not literally, to be sensitive about that. Listen, this gentleman here, Superintendent Ian Roberts. I'm sure he's a nice guy, as I always say. I'm sure he's a nice guy. if you, you know, were to play cards with him or something like that. But he lied. He lied and said he was a citizen. Who, was. Who was the school board lady we just heard?
>> Fred Jackson: Jackie Norris.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Jackie Norris.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's chair.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: U.S. senate candidate.
>> Tim Wildmon: U.S. senate. She sounds. That's sad, what she did right there. Well, he had his driver's license and his Social Security number. How are we to know he's not a. You know what I'm saying? I. I just. Now, this is a ridiculous. And this fella, he's going to be deported. If not. Well, first of all, he's going to have to face charges, I guess.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: what. What. What did he do? Ah, illegal here. Besides being in the handgun.
>> Fred Jackson: He was driving a government car. School board car. With a weapon.
>> Tim Wildmon: With a gun. Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which even if you have. Even if you legally own a weapon in Illinois. I mean, in Des Moines, you're not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Supposed to carry it in a government.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Carry in a government car.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. And then he runs from them physically gets out and runs from him, Right? Yeah.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Drove first. Drove first and then got out and ran physically.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He's, from Guana.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Guyana. Guyana.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, Guyana. That's a country in Africa. True.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: And According to corn to his immigration paperwork. You know, this is the paperwork he filed. He's. He also purportedly has six children by five different women.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What? Really?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: M. Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That is how I was shaking my.
>> Tim Wildmon: Head when you said, okay, he's a nice guy.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We can assume he may be a nice to play.
>> Tim Wildmon: You were shaking your head?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, it's not South America.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think Guyana.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You better check country on the northern, Northern coast of South America that identifies with the Caribbean.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Y' all are about to get real distracted on the point here. This is. We are neither here nor there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, well, you can trust me. Surgery.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay? Yes.
I think Jackie Norris will not be elected, Abe says
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I. It's extremely rare that I get my geography wrong.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: And thank you for pointing that out to the world. I don't think anybody would have known any different because Abe confirmed me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There was somebody screaming at the radio.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that guy in. A guy in it. There is a country in Africa with a similar name, I think spelled. Anyway, that's not the point as well. Okay, says the point is this fella was, busted, and now he's in trouble. And the school board and Des Moines, Iowa, looks. Looks,
>> Fred Jackson: And can I make a prediction? I think Jackie Norris will not be elected.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not be elected?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, she put out a note the other day saying, I'm having trouble raising money.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is she really?
>> Fred Jackson: I'm having.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this fella here, he's got three grand now that he doesn't know what to do with. His pocket he had in his pocket so he could contribute to her, campaign. Right, right.
>> Fred Jackson: Tax deductible, isn't it?
Louisiana governor invites National Guard to help with law enforcement after Hurricane Katrina
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. One other question we had for you, brother Abe, you still there?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Still here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks for supporting me on Ghana, being in. Being in Africa. I know what Abe did back there. He just trusted me because I usually get geography right, so I had to look it up.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, listen, on a more serious note. Well, that's a serious story. Your hometown and home state. You're from New Orleans, Louisiana.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: you spent a lot of time in Houston, Texas, after we know the story after, ah, the Hurricane Katrina. but now the governor there, Landry, has invited or is welcoming National Guardsmen to help in, New Orleans in the same way they've helped in. In Washington, D.C. if I got that right.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, you do have it right. Governor Landry in Louisiana has invited, President Trump, to provide, support for the law enforcement initiatives there. And this once, once again, it all depends on the details. In this instance, you have the governor, inviting the National Guard, similar to what happened in Memphis. The, guardsmen who were there all came from Tennessee, and in Tennessee only ended up being about 150 guardsmen. And they weren't carrying weapons, they weren't doing law enforcement things of that nature. So it depends on what exactly they will be doing. but this is an instance where the governor is welcoming them and the, with the collaboration between the governor and the president, you have, a more clearly lawful, basis for this type of activity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, because I, don't. As a conservative, I know you feel this way too, Abe, too. The idea of using federal troops inside our country. Okay, that's not constitutional. I don't think. I'm talking about.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: And I would.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you'd oppose that, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes, I. Yes, I would oppose that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And I would, too. And I think that law enforcement purposes. Yeah, yes. Not for national emergence, not for natural disasters, things of that nature, or somebody invading us or something like that, but just for regular law enforcement, police work. Using the, Using federal troops is. Is. Is not. Is not constitutional. But what President Trump is talking about here, if he's invited in by a governor of a state to do a specific thing with troops, then it would be constitutional under those circumstances.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes. And again, it depends on what, what they're doing specifically.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And, if I'm a National Guardsman, you tell me, go, go to downtown New Orleans. And by the way, you don't have, you know what? I'm give you a weapon. Here's it. You just need to hand out candy to the children, hope for the best. Oh, what do you send in the National Guard without any protection for m. Themselves. Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I was going to say, I think that the intent is to suppress crime by having wrestling those. Just suppress it by, by having. In other words, it has been demonstrated that the more patrolling police do in neighborhoods, it does suppress crime because they. Criminals see the law and. And they. They're less likely to commit some sort of, crime. I'm guess. I'm just guessing. I'll let Abe toss. Toss in here. I'm just guessing having the National Guard out on the street or performing some functions in assistance of the regular law enforcement is meant to be a show of force. and to suppress crime. Is that what this is?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: yes. And that's what Governor Landry has discussed. Having the National Guardsmen to support domestic, I'm sorry, local law enforcement in various capacities would Allow more visible presence of law enforcement. Most likely, the local law enforcement will be more visible because you have some of that administrative stuff and other things being done by the National Guardsmen. And so particularly in high crime areas, they want a more visible show, of law enforcement presence in those areas in an effort to, suppress the amount of criminal activity.
Wesley: What role can the National Guard play using ICE
>> Wesley Wildmon: Wesley, I was going to ask a, different legal question here on the. On a similar topic. So what about you Have. Obviously, you had the invasion during Biden's term of people coming across the southern border. So you got ICE doing its job. What, what. What role can the National Guard or President Trump play using the National Guard to help ICE do their job?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, that's something that could be done, but that doesn't seem to be a part of what the Governor Landry and President.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Have.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I should have clarified my question. Mine's up. Mine's more of a hypothetical of potential use of how they could or couldn't be used in that situation.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, that. That would be an entirely different conversation. and you would have some. Some type of official transaction that were to take place to have a kind of a deputizing a National Guardsman for border and Customs, enforcement functions. but that seems to be beyond the scope of what's being discussed here with New Orleans in particular.
General Abe: I'm not in favor of the United States government blowing up boats
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, well, can I just. Yeah, you can Let me just side. Let me just toss something. Abe, you had no idea this is coming. I'm sure you've talked about this, though. I was on our very fine American Family news website, folks. Go to afn.net great stories. They're covering the kinds of news that we are discussing. So just. Let me just toss a quick question to you in terms of constitutionality about, because here's the article that I'm looking at on American Family News. U.S. military officials discuss various options for dealing with Venezuelan drug traffickers. Now, it has been reported that the US Military has, destroyed boats at least on two occasions, maybe more coming from Venezuela that the. The, Trump administration says were being, These boats are driven by known drug traffickers. There were drugs on board, and so we blew them up. Okay, I'm asking what.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's cogent legal analysis.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I just had surgery. Okay. So, you know, I may be talking out of my head a little bit here. I may still have some of the body.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You can use that for a few more days. But eventually.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Eventually I got to. I got to lose that. What do you think? What do you think of this, that what the Trump administration is doing, we fired, fired upon and blew up boats?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. Yeah. I would need to know more about what evidence they had prior to. What's the legal authorization they had concerning that? Where were the boats located? I'm familiar with one of those stories. I'm not familiar with two or three of them. on one, I was. The one I'm familiar with is that the US Was made aware of this transaction in coordination with international partners to identify this particular boat. They identified with cogent evidence and was heading for the United States of America. So I just would need more information to provide more accurate, specific assessment of it. But as a general. General idea, I'm not in favor with the United States government unilaterally just blowing up boats in waters all over the world. That. That. That's not necessarily something that I would be like. Well, yeah. Happy that it's being done. That being said, if we have cogent evidence that shows that these are people that are bringing this stuff to our country, then I'm not crying any tears, shed any tears for the drug dealers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: okay, so I got one other question.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: I thought he's about to leave now. We got one more question. But he's used to that being in courtroom.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: one more question, Counselor.
Fred Hamilton: President Trump taunted top military brass in Tuesday speech
So. All right. President Trump spoke to the generals and. And other, I guess, top military brass, right, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: That is correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you said it wasn't a stellar speech, right, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Compared to Pete Hexith.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Fred Jackson: Pete Hexeth was lively and alert.
>> Tim Wildmon: President Trump was, not his usual self.
>> Fred Jackson: No, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: It wasn't a MAGA crowd, though.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, it was military.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And these people are seared. And they're. They're not used to, They don't have.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clown around.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Yeah, they don't, Tim.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Our military brass doesn't want to make America great.
>> Tim Wildmon: No. Well, yeah, maybe they do. I hope they do. But I'm just saying these are people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That President, Trump can't. Can't. President Trump can't draw energy like he does from a crowd.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. By my room full of, top military brass.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, nonsense.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. but President Trump said this. he said, President, this is according to Axios, which is a liberal publication. this concerned me a little bit when I read him say things like this, and I hope that he's just. I don't know what word comes. I don't like him trolling generals. But anyway, President Trump told the nation's top military officials Tuesday troop. Tuesday troops should use, quote, dangerous American cities as training grounds in quote.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What in the world does that mean? Yeah, he shouldn't have said that, should he?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: No. Yeah, he should not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because that gets just. That gives. Watch this pun. That gives ammo.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Ammunition.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ammunition to. To the. To the. His enemies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because when they say he's a. He's an authoritarian. Authoritarian rather. And he wants to. Anyway, I. I hope that he stops and dials this back. I'm talking about this whole sending national guardsmen out all over the place.
>> Wesley Wildmon: well, they would have to stop inviting them, you mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he's talking about sending them into Chicago anyway. He just. He's saying they got a terrible, incompetent. He said it's a big city. Chicago is big city with an incompetent governor. hope he knows that it's the mayor. You know that competent governor is not the mayor of the city anyway.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think he knows that. But the point is that, I just hope he dials back this talk because this is. I don't agree with this stuff. I don't. He, shouldn't send troops.
>> Fred Jackson: Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: go ahead.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, I agree with you. It creates fodder for his opponents. It creates difficulty, for his supporters because you have. You end up defending the indefensible, which you can't defend it. It's just that it's a problematic statement and it does create concerns like, does he really think. Passable possibility.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, all right, thank you, Abe. We appreciate it very much. and we, What are you going to cover this afternoon on the Hamilton Corner?
Ian Roberts registered to vote legally and possessed a firearm illegally
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, can I say one last thing about our non. Friend Ian Roberts from Des Moines, Iowa?
>> Tim Wildmon: Des Moines, Iowa. Yeah.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: In addition to being the illegal alien hired by the Des Moines school board, he registered to vote. He voted in Iowa, and outside of Iowa, he had a deportation removal order already in place and nevertheless was hired to be the superintendent of Des Moines, Iowa school.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Nice guy to play cards with.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, thank you, Wesley. I, accept that. I accept that. Dig right directly at me, this guy here. So when people say, these illegal aliens are going to find a way to vote, and the left. The left wingers say, no, no, no, they can't both. They have to be citizens. I don't know. The left wingers say, we don't care. Let them all vote. So I guess some people who would say we're making too much of elite of the illegal immigrant problem, work hard there. Yeah. But, but, but but boating. Absolutely not. You're not a citizen. You shouldn't be allowed to vote. And this guy proved that you could get on the rolls and you could vote, even not being a citizen.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Vote. there's a bunch of stuff here, but just to rehash too, that really built really big to me is that he voted right legally and he possessed a firearm illegally.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So you can have all the, you can have all the rules on the books for the, for, for gun control. But this guy has an illegal gun.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. And he should have obeyed the gun control. That's right, the gun rules. he should have.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think most criminals do follow the gun. Oh no, that's right, they do.
The Yankees are the first team in major league history to have bases loaded
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, all right, thanks. I appreciate it.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: All right, thank you guys.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I got some, I got some also very important news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Is it breaking? Chris, Chris Woodward breaks news.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Break this news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, you break this news.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The Yankees are the first team in major league history postseason to have bases loaded with nobody out in the bottom of the ninth and not score, run and lose the game.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let me give you a little history there. there's nobody except Yankee fans who feel sorry for them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay?
>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody. Yeah. Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I watched that, I watched that game and, and now we had our.
>> Tim Wildmon: Best reliever is a playoffs, baseball playoffs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: First game of the playoffs, wild card game. And we had our best pitcher and he loaded the bases, no outs. And then I think he got one pop up and then struck out the next two batters.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Look at that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If that was. That is why you watch baseball.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was great.
>> Tim Wildmon: I watched, we were eating dinner last night and we were on the tv, on the restaurant was the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Cincinnati Reds. And this was the first time they said the Cincinnati Reds were made the playoffs since 2013.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Wesley doesn't remember this, but the three of us here are old enough to remember the big red machine from the 70s. I mean they have a, they have a history there in the Cincinnati of some of the greatest baseball teams in history in the 70s. But anyway, there was this fellow on there pitching for the Cincinnati, for the Cincinnati. Is that right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cincinnati Reds.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Cincinnati Reds, yeah. And he was throwing hundred miles an hour every single pitch.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How do you hit that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Every single, Every single pitch. A hundred miles.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And did you tell me that he got three home runs hit off him?
>> Tim Wildmon: He did, he did. That just goes to show you how elite these the hand eye coordination is of these top baseball hitters. They were hitting home runs off this guy.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When was this?
>> Tim Wildmon: But all you got to do really stick the bat out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm trying to find the player.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know his name.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, there's a Hunter Green. He would win. What day was this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Last night.
>> Tim Wildmon: Last night.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Hunter Green, then. 65240.
>> Tim Wildmon: yes. He was a horse, and he was humming it 100 miles an hour. But remember this? Back in the day, it was a fellow named Nolan Ryan.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he was the Bionic Man. And he could throw. He was like, 5 11, 170 pounds.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And threw for decades.
>> Tim Wildmon: 100 miles an hour. 100. 100. 203. For nine innings.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: There we go.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Complete games.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody relieved him?
>> Wesley Wildmon: There was no relief set up or closing?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no. He was the starter closer. He pitched nine innings. Nolan Ryan, legendary pitcher there. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
