Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues
Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Issues, the name of this show, Monday, May 5, 2025. And joining me in studio is Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, Ed. Hey, good morning, Tim And Chris Woodward.
>> Christopher Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chris donning the plaid.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. I try to wear the opposite of Jordan, so that way you get a mix of fabrics.
>> Tim Wildmon: I start calling you Chris Plaid Woodward.
>> Christopher Woodward: We start starting tomorrow. Steve's all paisley, so we're plaid and ply. That's kind of hard to say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Plaid and paisley. Yeah, that's not easy to say. Plaid, and paisley.
>> Christopher Woodward: We're a tag team. Yeah. And then Wednesday we're going to become a professional wrestler.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ladies and gentlemen, in this corner, Plat and Plaisley.
>> Christopher Woodward: He's like a foot taller than me.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But he could toss you. He could throw you at the other.
>> Christopher Woodward: That's their stick. We, you know, it's a surprise. It's shock and awe.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can remember Mutt and Jeff, right?
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because I hadn't heard that, that that was a comic strip.
>> Tim Wildmon: When they come to strip Back in the Wind back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think it was probably like in the 40s and it. I know when I was in high school. I know you remember doing this, laying on the floor reading the Sunday comics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Of course, we weren't Christian growing up, so we didn't go to church on Sunday. So I can remember laying on, Sunday morning, Jeff Mutton. Jeff. Jeff, among others.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wasn't one of them tall when I'm short or something? Yeah, that was all right.
>> Christopher Woodward: I'm usually the short one back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Back in the day, as they say. the Mutt and Chef comic strip. That'd be a good trivia question.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That is good idea.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mutton Jeff.
Marguerite Robinson from northeast Mississippi has handwritten the entire Bible
all right, so, we hope everybody had a nice weekend. And, we've got a lot to talk about. In fact, at the bottom of the hour, we're going to have a guest who has get ready for this. She is from our area here in northeast Mississippi and she has handwritten the entire Bible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Handwritten?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. I just learned of this last week. We were discussing this with, Was it. Do you remember the context of what we were discussing?
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, I don't remember the context, but it was a day that Wesley was on the show and Ray Pritchard and Wesley talked about having written the Gospel according to John.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: in Galatians, I think it was. And Ray mentioned he's done, some similar things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, then I was talking to, one of our staff members and, they said, hey, my mother in law has written the whole Bible. And I said, what? And I said, would she be willing to do a radio interview with us about this? Because I just found that fascinating. I've never, ever met anybody that's handwritten, the entire Bible. And so Marguerite Robinson is going to be on, with us, and she'll, be joining us at 10:30. Have you ever, talk to anybody or knew anybody that hand wrote the whole Bible?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. My goodness. That's. That. That would be a, Jerome mental undertaking.
>> Tim Wildmon: Jerome.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Jerome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Jerome.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He translated.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's been a while ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, Translated it into Latin. So this wasn't a translation, obviously. She just hand copied it and we'll know.
>> Tim Wildmon: She translated it into Southern English.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, then. Then the number of questions I have for her have grown.
>> Christopher Woodward: Y'all need to repent. Get right with Jesus.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chris is on to it right there. That's it. But that's the audio version right now.
>> Christopher Woodward: Devil's got you. God's through with the. Ain't kidding you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Heaven, you want to go to heaven? It is.
>> Tim Wildmon: We better stop before we get better.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Than a breakfast with biscuits and gravy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Guys, we were stopped right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: but, but I. It's funny. No, no, you take time to laugh.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Anyway, at least I didn't send out a tweet with me pictured as the Pope.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who would do that? That's crazy.
>> Christopher Woodward: Wait, this just in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, all right, sorry.
Christopher Woodward: Trump and the White House sent out a meme
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, so, all right, listen. So we have, we've called this Good Trump, Bad Trump, right? Trump, President, Trump. He does things that no other president has ever done. And oftentimes that is a good thing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And sometimes it's puzzling.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let's just say puzzling.
>> Tim Wildmon: Puzzling. And you scratch your head. He sent. He and the White House sent out a meme. Do you call that a meme?
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes, it was a name. It was an image at least.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was it Friday or Saturday? When was this?
>> Christopher Woodward: It was over the weekend.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And it had President Trump's face, imposed, around. Around as the. As the Pope.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because the Catholic Church will be selecting a new pope after the death of. Pope Francis.
>> Tim Wildmon: And a lot of people thought that was disrespectful. Including you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, no, I think that was disrespectful.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, listen, folks, don't, don't email me. I, won't read it if you do. No, I'm just kidding. No, that's. You. You don't mess with people's faith in a disrespectful manner. you know, especially in the Christian faith. So, but however, I understand that sometimes you think it's something's a good idea and it seems funny at the time, and somebody sends it out, and then later on you go, maybe I shouldn't listen. That's why I. That's why I run things past my wife. If I have any question at all, do you think this is a good idea? And she'll go, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: funny in the House.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Between two people, but it's not funny for public consumption.
>> Christopher Woodward: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That. Exactly, exactly right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. A lot of, especially Catholics were bothered by that. I read. I was reading that he. Anyway, that's. Any other president, anything like that that you can remember?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I. Yeah. I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: You don't know?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I mean, I don't. We don't have. We have technology now that allows you to put your face. You know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't ever remember JFK sending out something at him as an imam.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no.
>> Christopher Woodward: Can't say I remember that either.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. So I don't know.
>> Christopher Woodward: Anyway, I will say that Trump's, which the White House did say it was. It was a joke. he's not the only person in office to do something similar in recent days. For example, Senator Mike Lee, who, as I understand it, is a Latter Day Saint or Mormon, because Marco Rubio currently holds like six jobs in the Trump administration, and he therefore wears many hats. Mike Lee put out an AI generated image of Marco Rubio as the Pope and said he does we many hats, and it was a picture of Marco as the Pope. So Trump's not the only one to have done it. Yeah, but he's. Michael. He's not the President of the United States.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I'm not, I'm not saying it's. It's not blasphemous if, if he had put his face on Jesus talking about President Trump. That's blasphemous. This is disrespectful to Catholics. And Catholics. Let them. They let the White House hear it. And so, you know, mad Trump, good Trump, bad Trump. I will say this just like there's good Ed, bad Ed.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. So you would say, this shouldn't have done that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I shouldn't have done it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story. All right, Woodward.
Democrats continue to make Kilmar Albergo Garcia into wrongly deported father
>> Christopher Woodward: All right. So while Democrats continue to make Kilmar Albergo Garcia into this wrongly deported Maryland father, a number of news outlets, which now includes USA Today, have done stories on how Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not a good person and therefore the Trump administration was in the right for deporting him, right or wrong, without due process. And speaking of due process, we'll perhaps get into that later in this hour. But I've got some audio now, and this was obtained by USA Today, which is not a conservative news outlet by any stretch, but USA Today of all news outlets had audio on Friday of, Garcia's wife in 2020 talking to a judge. She went to a judge to request protection from her husband based on alleged abuse that was going on at home. Don't take my word for it.
>> Speaker D: Clip 1 He grabbed me from my hair and then he slapped me. And then the neighbor, like, he didn't know what to do. He didn't know what to react. I have pictures of the evidence, like, all the bruises, because even on Wednesday, he hit me, like, around like three in the morning. He would just wake up and like, hit me. And then last Saturday, for my daughter's birthday party, before I went to my daughter's birthday party, he slapped me three times. And then last week, I did call the police. My sister called the police because he hit me in front of my sister.
>> Christopher Woodward: Now, to go with this, on Friday, there were also news reports which included video evidence of what appeared to be Garcia behind the wheel of a vehicle that police say may have been used in human trafficking. So the Trump administration and some news outlets are saying this is not a good man, and Democrats look foolish for going to bat for him as much as they are.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and they were like, all in. And this is the problem. My mom would have said, don't put all your eggs in one basket. And you don't want to, in the Democrats put all their eggs in the Kilmar, Garcia, Abrego Garcia basket. And now if this guy turns out to be bad news on a number of different fronts, starting with what appears to be a consistent pattern of, let me just say, just for safety, alleged domestic violence, okay? Starting with that, then the Democrats are going to be in, they're going to have more trouble in terms of the way the American voters, look at that party. Now, let me just ask you this. Has the government produced Sufficient evidence to demonstrate that Garcia is a member of Ms. 13.
>> Christopher Woodward: The government claims that he is and therefore should have been deported, while courts and judges have said he was wrongly deported or it was a mistake. now early on, the administration did kind of acknowledge that perhaps it was wrong to deport him. But now in recent days, especially as more and more stories go by, I mean, hardly a day goes by without hearing about him doing something wrong.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because, you know, President Trump in the interview talked about the tattoos on his knuckles.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And saying that the images there are known to stand for Ms. 13. Like there's a, you know, marijuana plant that stands for M M. There was, the S. I forget what the, what the S was. And so then there was 1 on 13 that these images stand for Ms. 13, although it doesn't explicitly have letters and numbers, Ms. 13. But the public has not seen the government's proof. Or has it?
>> Christopher Woodward: It has not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Christopher Woodward: And some people in the public think that the whole tattoos thing is a, quote, conspiracy. Forbes, for example, did a story on what it called the conspiracy behind Garcia's tattoos. So even that's being debated.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, anyway, so at the very least, we have, Garcia's wife and we have audio claiming, domestic violence.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. Which is one of several instances, because the audio I just played is one situation of a few news reports claiming that he abused her at different times.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so we. But we also don't have proof yet of the human trafficking. I'm not defending the guy. I'm just saying what we know right now.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah, it's Democratic, reportedly, police say kind of stuff.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But the Democratic Party has kind of gone all in to defend this guy and as a result of that, criticize the Trump policy.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that the Democrat Party, too, they want trials for all these people and lawyers, they want to lawyer up for thousands and thousands of people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Billions.
>> Tim Wildmon: Trump was talking about that the other day. And you're talking about, going an impossibility. You just can't, again, remember these are non citizens.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, I mean, when you, when you enter into a country and you're there without citizenship, you're there illegally. And you know, you are. You just sometimes you don't have a lot of claims.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying that people are going to listen to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
President Trump spoke on Meet the Press about immigration and due process
>> Tim Wildmon: so anyway, President Trump was on.
>> Christopher Woodward: Meet the Press over the weekend to talk about issues like Garcia and the Constitution and due process. And some people are taking exception to his answers here. I've got some audio, from the president himself. Clip 7.
>> Donald Trump: A big emergency right now is that we have thousands of people that we want to take out, and we have some judges that want everybody to go to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Some of them you appointed, sir, including three on the Supreme Court Change.
>> Donald Trump: I mean, it's, unbelievable. It's unbelievable how that happens, but they do change.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Don't you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?
>> Donald Trump: I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.
>> Christopher Woodward: Now, Democrats were quick on Sunday to pounce on the. I don't know if I have to uphold the Constitution because the oath of office itself swears to uphold the Constitution. I think he's still kind of answering her previous question there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: that's, that's, that's a lame attack on the president. It's clear what he was saying. And look, here's the thing. You're in an interview situation. The interviewer is interrupting you, and there's back and forth. Sometimes you don't get a chance to finish your thought. I think the president is clearly saying that he doesn't know how much of the due process, protections of the Constitution which protect US Citizens, how much of those due process protections exist for people who are here illegally or who have committed crimes and need to be deported. and it's unfair of the Democrats. What do you expect? They've got really nothing of their own except to sit back and take potshots at the president, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we wouldn't have as much of a problem if Biden not let millions of these people pour into our country. And what about that? Yeah, what about that? Due process. Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or the American public never got any due process when he let, what, 10, 11, 12 million people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Nobody's quite sure of the exact number.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, many of them gang members and, cartel sex traffickers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, abusers of children. I mean, this is, this. I don't know why the Democratic Party is taking its stand on this issue.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think they would have been smarter to go after maybe the tariff policy, where at least people are nervous about it.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But I don't think the American people are ambivalent about the issue of, save gang members. Yes. That is, that's ridiculous for the Democratic Party. But they're all in, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Christopher Woodward: Now, media has done its best. Mainstream media has done its best to try to help Democrats out here. But people like Fox News legal editor Greg Jarrett say the problem with the media is that it itself does not understand things like due process.
>> Speaker F: Clip 8 yeah, deportations are not a criminal process under the meaning of the Bill of Rights and the Fifth Amendment guarantees of due process. That's the point that I think Trump's lawyers had made to him. Removal is based on people who are here illegally, not because they're charged or convicted of crimes. And the U.S. supreme Court recently ruled that they are entitled to notice and a right to challenge removal. But that is typically done on an expedited basis before an immigration judge who is not part of the judicial branch. They're employees of the Department of Justice. So that's not the same as the standard due process that people are entitled to in regular courts of law when charged with crimes. That's the point the president was trying to make. So the term due process here really gets conflated and confused. It's not the same thing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I just think that when they are going, and ICE is going and scooping up all these people, and it hasn't even been close to the millions that came in. That's what Tim was mentioning. But that expedited due process, if it exists, and the Supreme Court has said they have a right to at least be questioned, the questions should be, you know, who are you? Where did you come from? Did you enter the country illegally? You know, can you produce a visa? And if they say no, you say, okay, you're going home. You know, gavel. Next. person.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where did you come from?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, where did you come from?
>> Tim Wildmon: Joe?
>> Ed Vitagliano: What's that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Cotton I Jose.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cotton. Oh, Cotton I. Joe. I get it, okay. I get that. That's Cotton Eyed Jose. Yeah, I like, I like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where did you come from? Where did you go? You know what? Trump is not a constitutional lawyer. And, he's answering the question like plain folks do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, he said, he went on to say there that people elected me to get, the bad guys, the blank out of the country.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: We did get that.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he was right about that. And so he's not so concerned about, you know, the minutia of it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: He just, he, he Biden let all these people in and he wants to get them all out. Yes, basically, that's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And the American people want them out.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
They voted for this. They don't want children abused. Right. That's right. You know, beaten on the way out or anything
They voted for this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They don't want, now, they don't want them abused.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, beaten on the way out or anything, but they got to go back where they came.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. That's the name of this show. Coming up in a few minutes, we're going to talk to a woman, Marguerite Robinson, who has handwritten the entire Bible. You're right. And, so if you want to feel bad about your Christianity, you just stay tuned.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, what did you do yesterday?
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what? You're a loser. And. No, I'm just kidding. No, just kidding.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She was just doing this for her own edification.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. That's right. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But that is. I will say that is funny.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When someone does something tremendous like that, you immediately take stock of your own life. Yeah. You just go, what have done?
>> Tim Wildmon: Even comparable.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
President Trump says he is directing government to reopen and expand Alcatraz
>> Christopher Woodward: Ah, one more Trump story. And this is one of those things where it sounds like sometimes now in the news cycle, you hear a story and it sounds like a Babylon Bee story, but it turns out to be legit. in this particular case, we have it on our website. I just posted it on our Today's Issues Facebook page. President Trump says he is directing his government to reopen and expand Alcatraz, the notorious former prison on a California island in the San Francisco area. We have some audio of President Trump talking about this. It is clip 10.
>> Donald Trump: Just an idea I've had, and I guess because the judges, so many of these radicalized judges, they want to have trials for every single.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Think of it.
>> Donald Trump: Every single person that's in our country illegally, they came in illegally. That would mean millions of trials. And it's just so ridiculous what's happening. And it's long been a symbol. Alcatraz. It's a symbol of law and order.
>> Christopher Woodward: Now, it may be a symbol of law and order, but Alcatraz, to my knowledge, closed in the 1960s. So it's probably not up to Museum M. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, it's literally. Yeah. You can go visit it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. It's a tourist destination. Yeah. You have a guide. And 10 of you walk around with, the earphones in, listening to the guide talk about the difference.
>> Christopher Woodward: So that people who were Al Capone slept here.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, there's a couple of great movies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Escape was Escape from Alcatraz. Wasn't that Clint Eastwood?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clint Eastwood. And then Birdman of Alcatraz was bird Lancaster. Dr. Ray Rooney corrected me this morning in our meeting. I thought, I. I thought that, Clint Eastwood was in Birdman of Alcatraz, but he was an escape from Alcatraz.
>> Tim Wildmon: What are you gonna say?
>> Christopher Woodward: I was gonna say Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage saved the day in the 1990s, from, like, nuclear Attack or something, when they snuck into Alcatraz and, prevented Ed Harris from harming everybody. That's the Rock.
>> Tim Wildmon: I missed that.
>> Christopher Woodward: That was from the rock in 1994.
>> Tim Wildmon: The rock came along later.
>> Christopher Woodward: no, no, not the actor. They moved the Rock, as, Connery would say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, by the way, folks, we're not. We're not recommending any of these movies.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have no idea.
>> Christopher Woodward: I saw it before I knew Jesus as my Lord and savior.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. I don't know. We. Yeah, we can't vouch for the. Yeah, for the movies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We're just saying such a profanity.
>> Tim Wildmon: For all we know, they were centered.
>> Ed Vitagliano: On Alcatraz, which has become kind of iconic in the, American mind.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, so,
President Trump says Alcatraz is too expensive to operate
So President Trump there is saying, well, you got to be careful when. When Trump says this to preface his remarks. Quote, is just an idea I had.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Because he has a lot of, most of them good, some of them nutty.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm. I'm looking at a picture of Alcatraz on this. It's a little island, like a rock. that's why they called it the Rock. And it's about a mile offshore near San Francisco. You'd have to. You'd have to probably do a lot of renovation, because it's not built. It was built back in the, whatever, the 40s or 30s or something. And the reason they shuttered it is because it became m. More expensive to operate it than to just have a prison on the mainland. Because you get. Everything's got to be shipped out there in boats.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. And according to the Internet, it holds up to 312 prisoners, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Best escape from prison movie I ever saw was Shawshank Redemption. Yeah, that is. Morgan Freeman and. What was the other actor's name? Robin.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Tim. Was it Timothy Robbins?
>> Christopher Woodward: I think so.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's the kind of movie that makes you think. If you were wondering whether you should do something that could land you in prison, you go, no, I think I'll.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think it was Timothy Robbins. I think it was. I, may have Charleston people yelling at the radio right now. Jaw Tank. Redemption may have been Timothy. Let's see. Yes, it was. We were correct.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We were.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we were. When you're correct, you say we.
>> Christopher Woodward: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're incorrect. I would have said you were incorrect.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily.
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Marguerite Robinson has handwritten the entire holy Bible
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to the radio program Today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. It's, let's see, today's May 5th. Thank you for joining us, on the program. Tim, Ed and Chris. Well, I mentioned before the break we were going to talk to, a guest in studio and who has handwritten the entire holy Bible. And joining us is Marguerite Robinson. And, Marguerite, welcome to our program.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is this the first national radio interview you've ever done?
>> Marguerite Robinson: It is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you're doing wonderfully so far.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You haven't embarrassed your family there so far. That's doing great. Now, Marguerite, you live, you live what, 20 minutes from us here at the studios. Right?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I learned last week we, here's how this happened, where we invited Marguerite to come on. I, we were doing, one of this show and I think Ray Pritchard and Wesley Wildmon, one of my sons, were talking and, something came up about handwriting, the scriptures. And Wesley mentioned that he had handwritten, to, the books of the Bible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. The Gospel of John and the book of Galatians.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And after the show, I got a text from one of our, staff here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who said, hey, my mother in law has Written the entire scripture. And I said, well, will she be willing to come on and do an interview with us? Because I never met anybody.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right, me either.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Marguerite said, yes, she would. So here we are. Tell, us how. First of all, let me see your hand. Is it crippled? No, no, your hands are working perfectly fine. The reason I'm joking around because that much handwriting would cramp a hand for life. You would think, but all right. So, how did this come about? Tell us.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Well, I decided to write it in July of 2021. I'm an early riser. I always enjoyed reading the newspaper first thing of a morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Marguerite Robinson: But there was articles in the paper that I was disappointed in. I canceled my subscription. So actually, to be honest, I needed something to do early in the morning, and I thought, this will surely help. I had heard Dr. David Jeremiah say, everyone should copy the book of Romans. I did that. I continued on each book of the New Testament. I said, well, let's start in Genesis and see how far I get.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. So, So started with the book of Roman. It's suggested by David Jeremiah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: How long did that take you to. And you've got it right here. You brought it to the studio, right?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Part of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Part of it. Okay. How long did it take you to write the, the, Romans book of Romans?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Oh, I don't remember precisely.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Marguerite Robinson: But.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay, well, then let me ask you this. I guess it's kind of hard to say hours, because, I mean, you did it in days, Right? But how long in days did it take you? Did you write most every day? I wrote.
>> Marguerite Robinson: I missed three days in three and a half years. And I was out of time.
>> Tim Wildmon: Disappointed that you missed, your three days. I just. I'm not sure what we're going to do about that. But anyway, go, go.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you have to understand, most of what he's saying is tongue in cheek.
>> Tim Wildmon: I wonder. I want you. Did you want to wander for the show? So three days you missed in three and a half years.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. But it took you three and a half years.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Yes. Riding 45 minutes to an hour a day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Something with a pencil or pen?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Pen.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. A, pen In. In a, Just a regular notepad. I mean, eight and a half by 11. Eight and a half by 11.
You need to make copies. You need to. Have you made copies of this? Well, have it. Even if it takes you five more
Notepad.
>> Marguerite Robinson: This is discarded notebooks that my grandson had discarded. Partially used.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Had I known I was going to finish this, I would have written it in a pretty journal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: But this. They're all colors. Partly used.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you Are you gonna, You need to make copies. Have you made copies of this?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Well, have it.
>> Tim Wildmon: You need to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you need to hand copy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you need a hand copy. Your hand copy. That's what I mean. Even if it takes you five more years? Well, no, And I think what I'm saying is I can put it in a copy machine. I'll do it for you because that needs to be preserved. If, if you spill coffee on that, for example, or something like that. Go ahead, Ed.
Marguerite Robinson wrote the entire Bible out longhand
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I was just going to ask how. How difficult was it? Obviously you did these chapters, and books that I'm about to ask about, because you did the whole Bible, but how hard was it going through some. Some of those passages where there's all the names in Hebrew and. Or the Hebrew names, I should say. And, those are. Those are hard just to read them, let alone to diligently copy those. How hard was that to do those kinds of sections?
>> Marguerite Robinson: It was very challenging. There was times I would think, why are you doing this? Just quit. But I said, no, I will continue on. I did cheat a little on, numbers. When it was written out. 10,000. I used numerals.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.
>> Marguerite Robinson: continued on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you made mistakes, you just correct them. Or you didn't. You didn't maintain that if you made a mistake, you had to start all over in a particular book. You just cross through it and write the right thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're talking to Marguerite Robinson. She, lives here in the Tupelo area. And, we, found out she worked. She's a mother in law of one of our staff here. And I thought, well, wow, she wrote the entire Bible out longhand. And it took her three and a half years, she says. And I said, we got to talk to her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: So we invited her into the studio and she agreed to be. Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I will say this. when I pastored for a long time and when I would prepare my sermons, I would handwrite the passage that I was preaching out of. And sometimes I would think, well, why are you doing this? But there was something about writing it out as I'm writing it. I'm praying and asking the Lord to give me insight, into this passage. So, what was your motivation other than the fact that David, Jeremiah, said it would be good to do this in the book of Romans. Was this just an exercise of worship? Or did you pray as you read? Were you just trying to go through the entire Bible like some people will read it, but in a way that forces you to Pay attention. What was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Why were you doing this?
>> Marguerite Robinson: As I mentioned earlier, to be honest, I was wanting to fill up some morning time, but I felt like the Bible would be the place to spend it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: And as you said, writing the scripture out. I understand the context much more than just reading. I've read through the Bible years ago. Read through it entirely.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: And I've memorized scripture through the years, but there's something about writing this that it stays with you. It's been a blessing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You pay attention a little bit more.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you read over passages that you've read before. Sometimes our minds do funny things, and our. We can be reading the scripture and our mind can actually be on something else, but not if you're writing it. If you're handwriting it, you're paying attention to everything you're writing. And there is something to that. I mean, I agree with what Dr. Jeremiah said. And then what you did was. And that's a phenomenal undertaking and completing the task.
>> Marguerite Robinson: I, enjoyed it. I look forward to that every morning when I finished. It was emotional. I didn't want it to end.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
Let me ask you this. What are two of your favorite Old Testament Bible stories
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this. Give me two if you can. What are two of your favorite Old Testament Bible stories? As you wrote along and you said, well, I really like writing about this.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Well, I always like Daniel. The story of Daniel. Yes, of course. Noah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Among so many others.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Those two. Those are good. That's a good one.
M. M. Jude: Handwriting is a great thing. You receive a great blessing from it
The other thing I had is a practical question. We joked about this earlier, but, I know if I hand write for 15 minutes, which I rarely do anymore. I mean. Well, I can't remember the last time I did our hand. Right. For five.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or maybe 10. Handwriting for how many hours a day?
>> Marguerite Robinson: No more than an hour.
>> Tim Wildmon: An hour. But how did you. Did you ever get finger cramps or sometime.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Yeah, but, you know, I have arthritis. But the Lord just kept giving me the strength of that hand.
>> Christopher Woodward: Did you write in cursive or in print?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Oh, cursive.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Writing in print, that would make you lose your religion.
>> Christopher Woodward: I still write in cursive. these guys have made fun of me for my note writing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: well, it's not the only thing we make fun of.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah, yeah, but that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's one of them. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, Marguerite, so you did an interview recently with the, Baptist.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Baptist, yes. Record.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's the Baptist magazine for the state of Mississippi. Right, Right. And you're doing some stuff with, with us here at American Family Association. American Family radio. Well, listen, just anything else you want to say or add to our,
>> Marguerite Robinson: Conversation, I would suggest that people that have time on their hands.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Elderly people like me. It's a great thing. You receive a great blessing from it. You're going to learn, whether you intend to or not.
>> Tim Wildmon: M. Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And people can start small. They can. They can do the book of, Ephesians, you know, they can.
>> Christopher Woodward: Jude.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, Jude.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That would save some paper there, but. Well, would you. Would you mind. If you don't want to. You don't have to. Do you.
Marguerite says when you reach your 80s, your life's not over
Would you like to share how, how old you are?
>> Marguerite Robinson: I'm 89.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 89, right. So you did this. When did you start? You were 85.
>> Marguerite Robinson: 85.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 85.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I was back in the day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was back in the day, yeah. So. So the point is, when you reach your 80s, for example, your life's not over. There are still things you can do and you still can learn.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Sure is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Marguerite Robinson: I had no idea when I started write this that it would become known to anyone. It would not have been had it not been for my daughter.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well.
>> Marguerite Robinson: But if it will help someone else, encourage someone else.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'll tell you, I gotta say. And this is. This is the way Italians think. I'm Italian. your friends have nothing on you. You hang out with your friends and they say, well, I went and did. I went and did this, and I went and did that. You say. You could say, yeah, but you never copied the Bible, did you?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think that's where you. I think that's where you lose your reward in heaven. I think that's a scripture about that. That she wrote about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's in there somewhere.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think that's. So, anyway, Marguerite, thanks for doing this interview. We appreciate it.
>> Marguerite Robinson: Well, thank you for having me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you are still mentally sharp. 89 years old. Well, very. Very articulate. Most days, right?
>> Marguerite Robinson: Most days, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Marguerite.
Marguerite Robinson started when she was 85
All right, that's Marguerite Robinson, our guest today in studio. so you ask her how old she was?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, she. I told her if you don't want to say, that's okay. But this is. That's part.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's all right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's part of the amazing. Think about this.
>> Tim Wildmon: 89.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 89 years old. She started when she was 85. I listen, you can start today.
>> Tim Wildmon: Finished by the time you're 89.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I get. I get tired, you know, by noon, you know. Now I'm, Now I am, excited.
What you said you just wrote brought out Bible verses for your sermon
>> Tim Wildmon: So. Have you ever written out any. What. What you said you just wrote brought out Bible verses for your sermon.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. What from, from, for my sermons.
>> Tim Wildmon: That is a good idea if you're going to preach a sermon on text, to write it out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: over the years I did like my own personal, like commentary on Ephesians and a couple other books in the New Testament where I would write out the scriptures and then, you know, comment underneath it just in case I ever wanted to preach on that passage. But not. Nothing, nothing like what Marguerite did.
>> Christopher Woodward: Did you ever, while you were preaching, did you ever like, kind of like, I don't know what I wrote there, like have reading your own, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I can read my writing. But I will say this. My sermons had. I would circle the word and draw an arrow over here so they, they were not laid out very, very well for anyone other than me. Yeah, you know, I do that. And sometimes the part that I drew the arrow to over here, I'd bracket it and draw an arrow to the other page and I would have to, while I'm preaching, follow those arrows.
>> Christopher Woodward: so she also had me at use notebooks because I used to come into the today's issues meetings with my topics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Christopher Woodward: On the, like the back of my kids like schoolwork that they were, they were just gonna chunk it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We used to tease you about that because you'd come in with your notes and I'd say, what is that Helped.
>> Christopher Woodward: Me get through those.
>> Tim Wildmon: But yeah, she, she had it in a, in a just an old fashioned eight and a half by 11.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Spiral notebook.
>> Tim Wildmon: Spiral notebook. That's what she wrote in. Well she, she called it old fashioned. I guess people still use it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She mentioned that if she had known that she was going to do this right, she would have done it in nice, you know, journals.
>> Tim Wildmon: But she didn't intend to start out. She didn't start. Died out intending to write the whole Bible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: but one book led to another which led to another. It's pretty amazing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Story there. and so 89. Wow. you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thank you for listening to AFR Next story.
Chris: President Trump is trying to sit down with Iran over nuclear issue
Chris?
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, when you read the Bible and perhaps write down what you read, you will learn a lot from God about his, plans for, the people of Israel and the nation of Israel. And Israel is a, a country we still hear about a lot in the news. doing part two countries like Iran not wanting Israel to exist. President Trump, since he's reentered office, has been trying to sit down with Iran to come up with some sort of peaceful solution to this whole Iran nuclear program. Let's go back to the Obama Biden administration. They wanted Iran to be able to have some nuclear capabilities with the promise they weren't going to do harm to Israel and US Interests. Obviously, a lot of people disagree with that idea. and so people are concerned that maybe Trump is going to allow Iran to have, a nuclear weapon. I don't think that's what, the President intends, but I've got some audio of newly confirmed ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, who said, to Fox over the weekend, there's really only one peaceful solution to this issue. Clip 13 I hope talks can result.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In something where Iran completely walks away from nuclear ambitions and realizes that both President Trump and the Israelis have said, you're never going to have a nuclear weapon. The sooner they understand that, the better. Well, well, I don't want to see Iran have nuclear weapons. I don't know anybody who does unless they're oriented towards terrorism or the elimination of Israel. Hopefully Iran will come to the bargaining table. Listen, if President Trump is able to pull off all the things that he's, intent on doing, ending the Russia, Ukraine war, getting Iran to agree to, end its nuclear, its program to get nuclear, weapons, the tariff, you know, correction, of the trade deficit, if he can pull all this stuff off and get rid of all the illegal immigrants, all those things that he set out to do, that this will be an extraordinary and transformant transformational presidency. so, and, and these were all good things. I, I, I, again, I don't know that much about the tariff situation. I certainly, I do. You do.
>> Tim Wildmon: We can get to it in a minute.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I certainly don't want to see a recession. but all this other stuff I think is all good stuff. People ought to be praying that God will give favor to the President. I'd like to see the war between Russia and Ukraine end, for example. All those people continuing to die. So just be praying for success for a lot of these, efforts. I certainly don't want to see Iran with nuclear weapons.
South Texas home of SpaceX rocket company becomes official city with galactic name Starbase
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story.
>> Christopher Woodward: All right, let's, go with a SpaceX story here. The South Texas home of Elon Musk's SpaceX rocket company is now an official city with a galactic name, Starbase. A vote Saturday to formally organize Starbase as a city was approved by a lopsided margin among the small group of voters who live there and are, mostly Musk's employees at SpaceX. With all the votes in, the tally was 212 in favor, 26 against, according to results published online by the Cameron County Elections Department. Long story short, McAllen, Texas, is going to be the home of something called Starbase, where you might see some, Elon Musk SpaceX rockets take off from. Similar to how you guys might have watched rockets take off back in the 60s and 70s.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. Is that a crack how old we are?
>> Christopher Woodward: No, I'm trying to like, try to. I'm trying to. Sounded like it, like relate it to something.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Something the old people. Yeah. Ah, no, I, I understood what you.
>> Christopher Woodward: Were doing, but, you know, you remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: That, Ed, don't you?
>> Ed Vitagliano: You remember Apollo back in the old days?
>> Christopher Woodward: Set foot on the moon.
>> Ed Vitagliano: listen, Elon Musk is the guy everyone made fun of in school. He's the prototypical nerd. and this is Revenge of the Nerds, because almost everything that guy sets out to do, he accomplishes. And, Starlink, Is that what you were star.
>> Christopher Woodward: His Internet company.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What's the name of this space?
>> Christopher Woodward: Oh, SpaceX.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, the name of the town.
>> Christopher Woodward: Oh, it's m. In the. McAllen, Texas. Muskburg, Cameron county, Texas and the. McAllen, Texas.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, but you said. What was the name, Chris? Of the, of the town that was created.
>> Christopher Woodward: Oh, Starbase.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Starbase.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, I'm just telling you that is the nerdiest thing ever. What are we going to call it? You know, we're not going to call it Rose, Texas or something. We're call it Starbase.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what, so, so Elon Musk probably go, back to his high school reunion.
>> Christopher Woodward: What have you been up to?
>> Tim Wildmon: And, playing Toby Keith. How do you like me now?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Starbase.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: How do you like me now? I was the nerd. Yes. Now, now you people want to work for me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. And I just, I not only create companies.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I create towns.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
Alan Shepard Jr. became the first US astronaut to travel in space
>> Tim Wildmon: Out of nowhere I go rescue people from outer space. Yes. What do you do exactly?
>> Ed Vitagliano: People stranded for nine months.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What your daddy do?
>> Christopher Woodward: Interestingly enough, keeping it with space for a moment. on this day in history, May 5, 1961, Alan Shepard Jr. Made a 15 minute suborbital flight in the Freedom 7 spacecraft, becoming the first US astronaut to travel in space.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, but it was only suborbital. And he didn't have a. He wasn't an influencer, did he, did.
>> Christopher Woodward: He get out of the thing like Katy Perry and kiss the ground? I think he landed in the ocean.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He was. He was an actual astronaut.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was a brave man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry to put it this way. Not one of these chicks that went up into space. Be careful for 15 minutes. And came down and claimed to be astronaut.
>> Christopher Woodward: Let me ask you this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: To make you an astronaut.
>> Christopher Woodward: If Ken Ham or somebody with, like, a, creation Ministry, if they were to come to you and say, hey, we've got the funding. We've got the vessel. Would you go to space?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'd say no. I don't. I don't want to. You mean me personally?
>> Christopher Woodward: Either one of you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. I'd say no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, gosh. I'm not crazy, with the Venture, but. But I'm not. I'll do. I went, with my uncle because I was like, 11, I think, in a, Hank.
>> Ed Vitagliano: a glider angler.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not a hang glider.
>> Ed Vitagliano: just the kind that the plane pulls you up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Plane pulls it and you go up and the. Then the plane disconnects and you're. All you hear is the air.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Going through your.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. No, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Do it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did that in 1976. Well, I think I was. Maybe I was 13 or something.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You didn't know any better.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well. Well, I went, I don't think I had a choice. My dad put me behind my. Put me in the. Put me in the glider with my uncle and said, see you in a few minutes. And I'm like, what are we doing? What are we doing, Daddy? You'll find out, son.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What are we doing? Where's the sacrifice? We're going up to the top of the mountain. Where's the. Listen, my wife on a Saturday would say, what do you say we go out to eat at such and such a place? And I have to think, do I really want to get dressed and go out? And we go out now. let's just make it. Let's just. I'll make you a sandwich. How's that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if someone said no, instead, we want to send you into space. I'm going, yeah, no, thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I. I'm looking at, We're going on family vacation in a few weeks.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: On the. Go down at,
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's far enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: Destin, Florida, America. So I've been looking. I was looking at parasailing. because that's. That's what I'm saying. I'm not crazy. But I. But I. But I. But I'll do.
Tim Ferriss: Parasailing in the Gulf of America could be dangerous
I'll do something like that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Parasailing in the Gulf of America.
>> Tim Wildmon: You darn right, Tim, you darn tootin.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know there's sharks out there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's. Yeah, yeah. If you fell in, it would be. You could be doubly bad.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: First of all, you could break every bone in your body and then come along. Right. Things could go bad.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I gotta pray for you when you're on vacation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Gotta. Look, you got to have an optimistic view of life, though. You can't just live in fear every day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: And just make a sandwich. Oh, you don't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you know, you're the one who says you're not going up in a plane unless it's got two pilots and two engines.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm just saying.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't do. Yes, that's right. But that. That's right. You're right about that. But that's, That's a smart. Yeah, that's being. That's being smart right there. Don't go up in a plane with. Because if.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. And so you're going to go up in a parasail with no engine and no pilot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but you got to research this stuff, man. You got to say, okay, what are your chances of dying? You know what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, what are your chances of dying if you stay right there on the beach?
>> Tim Wildmon: we probably need to pick this up.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Chris.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Would you go up in space?
>> Christopher Woodward: I would. I would probably be more inclined to actually do like the. The Katy Perry thing where they could just go up just above the earth. Because for. I'm not scared of heights, but I don't like, like, rickety heights. Like, I've been on planes, I've been on the top of the Eiffel Tower.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've been rickety heights.
>> Christopher Woodward: Like Ferris, wheels.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a band.
>> Christopher Woodward: I'm not. I'm not a fan of Ferris wheels. Okay. Where the only thing holding you between eternity is like some chain link or whatever. No paragliding. I would not do that.
>> Tim Wildmon: But flying, like, straight up paragliding is safe, though. I mean, parasailing behind. Behind a boat. I mean, they do it every day, all day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They don't release you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no, I'm not talking. No. Cut you loose.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what I was thinking.
>> Tim Wildmon: They reel you in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you go on a boat.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: That and you get, you get harnessed in and then they. They let you out. Yeah. With the, parasail, and you, you know, you're above the Gulf and you're just. And then they reel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They reel you back in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, that's different.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I thought they cut you loose.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, this ain't no military exercise. And.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, all right, that's. That is. But that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: That helpful?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's helpful.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
