Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to the radio program Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. It's a live show, and we do this Monday through Friday. Today's Thursday. Tomorrow we'll have Trivia Friday, also known as Learning University. So we'll be here tomorrow. J.J. gonna be here? No. He's out of pocket. Didn't he.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. So be you and me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You and I'm free. And Burt, I think Bert.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Bert's on Tomorrow Bird. Think Bert will have a Andy Griffith?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Kid will.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I guarantee. I guarantee it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who says that? I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There's some character. Doesn't. It says, not on andy Griffith, L.A. justin. Oh, yeah, that's right. There it is. The guy.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's the cook slash comedian.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: From yesteryear. I don't even know he's still alive. Justin Wilson, if he is, that's the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: One who said it there.
>> Tim Wildmon: He isn't. He's 112. But maybe you can do that eating gumbo and gator. I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's probably possible he's with Julia Child somewhere.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I wouldn't want to hear her talk. God love her. She's. She's a great cook. I'm sure. But have you ever tried to listen to that for 30 minutes?
>> Ed Vitagliano: no.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm talking about.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's why I was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do your child's voice. Yes. Bless her. Bless her. I don't know how we got off on that. But anyway, you're listening to today's issue. Steve Paisley Jordal joins us.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, Steve, Ed, Tim and Ray, and we thank you for listening to afr.
Zoran Mandami is running for New York mayor with a socialist agenda
So, Steve, what's our first story?
>> Steve Jordahl: I, got you a trivia question for tomorrow.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go.
>> Steve Jordahl: What is going to be. What could possibly be the first major city in America to have a socialist slash communist mayor?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'd guess New York City.
>> Steve Jordahl: You would be right. So, they had a Democrat primary, on Tuesday, and the winner was a gentleman. a guy that was. His name is Mandan Mon. I gotta get the m's and the n's. Right. Mamdani Zohan Mandani. Zoran Mandami is a, He was born in the Congo, and,
>> Tim Wildmon: Sounds like some kind of a storybook. Connie's Undani. Born in the Congo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: America.
>> Steve Jordahl: He wasn't raised by any. Any, Any economist.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mayor of New York City. Anyway, so what's the fella's name?
>> Steve Jordahl: Zoran, Mandami.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just wanted to hear you say that again.
>> Steve Jordahl: Zoran Mamdani. Anyway, he is pledging a socialist agenda. Uh-huh. There's a couple things I want to bring to your attention about this. So let's just look at his plan, for what he'd like to bring to New, York. There's a couple of things we're going to get to here, but first, listen to Cut six.
>> Speaker D: And our police force should not be assisting ice. Defund the NYPD and refund all the of these different social services. And I will create a network of city owned grocery stores. It's like a public option for produce. I'll freeze the rent for millions of tenants, make buses fast and free, and deliver universal childcare. And before you ask, I'll pay for it by taxing the rich. The mayor.
>> Steve Jordahl: The rich.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, he has not been elected mayor.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, he is.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was a Democrat. Primary.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: The general elections in the fall, is that right?
>> Steve Jordahl: It is. And in the general elections, former governor Mario Cuomo.
>> Tim Wildmon: He just got beat by this guy.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, he's running. He, he could be running as an independent, they say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And Eric Adams.
>> Steve Jordahl: And Eric Adams is also.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He already announced.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Months ago that he was going to run as an independent.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he's the current mayor.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Current mayor.
>> Steve Jordahl: Current mayor. And the thinking is those two might split the moderate, Democrat vote. And Mondami at this point has the odds on favorite to win this.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's to the left of aoc, if you're wondering.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, yes. So all of that stuff, tons of stuff that's free and he says he's going to pay for it by taxing the rich. And also he's going to put a. He's going to tax, businesses. He's putting a business tax so that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Companies,
>> Steve Jordahl: He says companies are making millions of dollars and not just in revenue, but in profit. So we're talking about corporations that are making millions of dollars.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The bums.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know. So anyway, it will not work. But the free groceries, the state controlled grocery stores and everything. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So Zoran. Name? Zoron Zorani.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mom. Danny Nuke, killer 50, cent, the rapper, you know. Have you heard of the rapper?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've heard it, sure have.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, he's not. He, he's not. He lives in New York City. Not so sure he likes his plan of tax of the rich. he says where did he come from? Whose friend is this? I'm not feeling the plan. No, I will give him 25, $258,750 on a first class one way ticket away from New York. I'm telling Trump what he said, too.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was going to say, and we don't need to forget the raise. hey, this, this idea of state run grocery stores. You are going to put out a business, not only corporate owned, large scale, grocery stores, but mom and pop stores are going to go under because you cannot compete with the government.
Ray: New York has fallen so far from the days of Giuliani
But also, I want to say to our listeners, if you've ever been dissatisfied with, with the, customer service that you receive at a store, wait till the government's running it. All right? It's going to be the dmv. When you're trying to find out where the, where the Lucky Charms are, it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does anybody out there think that the government of New York State could run grocery stores somehow better than Kroger, who are all over the country? I doubt this, this is a catastrophe in the making. It's hard to believe. Hardly. New York has fallen so far from the days of Giuliani, Right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And what he did. How do you get from Rudy Giuliani being mayor and very successful to this guy, a left wing socialist slash communist? Tim, how do you even get. How does anybody get to the left of aoc?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let me just, tell you how, how you do it. Now, I haven't followed this race very closely back. That was the first time I've heard that fellow talk. so I don't know much about him at all. Except I do. I have been reading stories and following the mayoral race in, New York again. Eric Adams, the current mayor, who is no longer a Democrat, he's going to run as an independent. So Cuomo, former governor, he has his own issues. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's got baggage.
>> Tim Wildmon: Baggage, ran against this guy or this guy's a zoron. that's his first name. That's his first name, man. Donnie Mandami.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Mom. Donnie.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mom. Donnie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mom. Donnie.
>> Steve Jordahl: Donnie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, come up downstairs. Anyway, so mom and Donnie Osman, so they, he, he's, he's, a. He's a, state legislator.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: From the Queens, I think. Or is that. Look and see where he. Anyway, Ray, to answer your question, yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He'S based in Queens in terms of his 30, 6th. 36th district.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That he represents, you know, who his.
>> Steve Jordahl: Congressman is or his congresswoman. Is aoc There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, she was Brooklyn.
>> Steve Jordahl: She represents parts of Queens and Brooklyn. yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, my favorite thing about Queens is the show.
>> Steve Jordahl: Do you like the show, King?
>> Ed Vitagliano: My favorite part about Queens is that's where Spider Man's from.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, so is the King of Queens.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh? I don't like Queens.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have nothing good to say about Queens anyway.
>> Tim Wildmon: I need to get back yard. Trying to distract me. I know what you're doing here. Yeah, because I, you're the one that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Brought up King of Queens.
>> Tim Wildmon: King of Queens. That was a funny show up there, huh?
Ray Mamdani: New York City would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu as mayor
all right, so, to answer your question, Ray, this guy, is a, a quote, progressive, idealist who wants to promise to fix everything by providing free stuff to all the voters. And how do we make it pay for it? By the people that don't have enough votes to beat me. And that is the, quote, rich people, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: So, who will shortly be leaving New York City.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm going to say. The rich people, whoever they are defined as, are going to figure out a way to leave the city and get out of this. and. But while that stuff he just promised there, it's, it's not going to work. The city of New York is not the federal government of the United States. The federal government of the United States can pay for stuff that they don't have the money that we, they, we don't have the money to pay for by printing more money. Okay. And borrowing more money. More money. So when you're a city or a state, you can't do that. You have to have money to pay for your services. So what he's talking about here is having the, quote, rich pay for all that free stuff that he's talking about. I don't think it's a, reality. But when you make enough people, you, you promise enough free stuff to enough people, guess what? For every one, quote, rich person in New York that has a boat, there's 25 probably people who are blue, collar or average folks, average income, who say, yeah, that's right, rich. And pay for all this stuff, right? And guess what? They got far more votes than, quote, the rich people who are going to be the, recipients of the higher taxes. Now I want to play something else because there's more. Whatever. If the people of New York want to let this guy, this socialist slash communists, then I just say, knock yourself out. Yeah, a lot of people, you go for it. New York.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: See how that we then come back to me in about two years and see how that works out. Defunding the police in New York City.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, but you want to do that, you go right ahead. However, there's something more serious, seriously, wrong with this fellow's, ideology that I wanted to play that clip too.
>> Steve Jordahl: So, like all leftists, he is virulently anti Semitic, and he's, been on, he thinks there's a genocide going on in, Gaza. And so, he's been outspoken about that and he has promised.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's just hear it before you give the punchline.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is a sign of his anti Semitism. Cut 11.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mayor Mamdani, would he welcome, Prime Minister Netanyahu to New York City, for whatever he comes for, given the US Is not a signatory to the icc. so he can travel to the US Unlike a lot of other countries. Wouldame. Welcome Benjamin Netanyahu to the city.
>> Speaker D: No. As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu. This is a city that our values are in line with international law. It's time that our actions are also.
>> Tim Wildmon: Even though the US Is not a signature to the icc.
>> Speaker D: No, it's time that we actually step up and make clear what we are willing to do to showcase the leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's the International Criminal Court.
>> Steve Jordahl: International Criminal Court in the Hague. And they have, issued an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. But it is only valid in countries that have signed on to the icc. The United States is not one of those countries.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, Ray, the leading candidate for mayor in New York City, and whether he'll win or not remains to be seen. But he is, he said if Benjamin. Yahoo. The President, excuse me, the Prime Minister of Israel, comes to New York City, he'll have him arrested. I don't think he can do that. I don't think he has the authority to do that. But anyway, that's his viewpoint. What do you think about that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I do not think Mr. M. Trump will let that happen. Trump and Netanyahu, they're good buddies. They're good. They're shoulder to shoulder in this war.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I'm talking about the idea of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm saying, I'm saying is crazy. If New Yorkers need another reason to vote against this guy, don't vote. I mean, suppose you're part of the New York Jewish community, which is huge. Okay, I know it's liberal I know they overwhelmingly Democrat, but how could they support a man who says the leader of the Prime Minister of Israel, we're going to arrest him the minute he sets foot in New York City. It's outrageous how. Okay, Tim, this is unbelievable to me that in a major American city, a man like this is the likely next mayor.
>> Tim Wildmon: M. Yeah, well, it's going to. So you said that Cuomo, may run as an independent.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I'm hearing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so you would have two independents, Cuomo and Adams are Republicans, both former Democrats running, and a Republican running against this gentleman here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
A mayor's legal powers are generally limited to local matters, AI says
>> Steve Jordahl: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, have you found out anything about whether or not New York City could arrest a. The leader of another country?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, according to, AI, which is obviously never wrong, a mayor's legal powers are generally limited to local matters. So while the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, the authority to execute that warrant. Warrant falls to states, not local municipalities and states that are signed on to the ICC Rome, statute, which is where they.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I mean, what would you.
>> Steve Jordahl: You.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If, If, If Mamdani wants to say he's going to, The New York City would arrest him. What's the charge?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he would arrest him on war crimes. According to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's not against the law, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not the state. Yeah, it's not a state crime. Well, did him on jaywalking, maybe.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, his statement there is we are going to enforce the law that the.
>> Tim Wildmon: United States federal government won't do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think it's blessed. I think it's. It is, it's bluster. But, to Tim's point, it is representative of the anti. Semitism of this individual and the hatred of. Well, I mean, he has been critical of Israel and claiming that it commits apartheid on a regular basis and genocide.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, next, story.
A lot of companies are using AI to hire people
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. we were talking about AI and what it has to say about Mom, Donnie. But, ah, a lot of companies are using AI to hire people. In fact, you may be screened. If you're applying for a job with a company, you may be screened. The company may never see your name at all if you don't pass the first screening by AI.
>> Tim Wildmon: and then AI is not a person.
>> Steve Jordahl: AI Artificial intelligence. It's the computer. it's a large language models. It's the wave of the future. It's the most powerful.
>> Tim Wildmon: it's here now.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's here now. And it's influencing everything. And one of the things it's influencing is hiring for some job seekers, the AI's role in the company could even be affecting them during the hiring process. This according to Daily Wire, selecting some candidates over others without any human intervention. However, a study published by two researchers, Adam Carvunian and Samuel Marx, show that leading commercial and open source AI language models significantly show significant racial and gender bias. They consistently favor black over white candidates and female over male candidates across all tested models and scenarios.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that is, that is because the, these AI programs search the Internet.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And what they're learning from the Internet is that white males especially are the worst possible hire m because they're white males. You know, listen, this, I, this, this is a good story because I think as companies try to save money by using AI rather than hiring people to do the job interview process, you're going to have more of this. And however you program your AI in whatever it's doing, it's going to carry out its mission. And there's going to be a lot of this where people aren't going to even get their foot in the door. Congress states, cities are going to have to pass laws that require if you're using AI, the only way around this is if you're using AI to screen applicants, you must produce for the applicant the AI produced reasoning for why you did not move on in the hiring process. And that will then be used for lawsuits because if, if AI says we didn't hire this individual because he was a white male or because he was straight, then you're gonna have lawsuits. And I don't know how you avoid this. To me it's, to me it's like, and Ray, I'll pitch it to you. It's like when Walmart and other stores started letting their human workers go and then turning to self checkout. Okay. There are always unintended consequences and I think you should have human beings doing the interviewing process, not AI programs. It's my rant.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's true. It's terrifying, frightening if you think about you can even just forget the color your skin question. It's rather terrifying to think that these corporations are going to use AI to determine who gets a job and who they pass over. And I wonder ed, how they're ever going to get force out the truth of why I said pick person A but don't pick person number B, number C or D or I will just make up some kind of, some kind of made up reason to justify passing one person over another. Look where we are in, I mean Steve is as you said AI is not tomorrow. AI is today. It's the world we're living in. And to be honest, frankly, I use AI all the time. My two best friends are Grok and Chat GPT. I mean, I'm talking to Gro.
>> Steve Jordahl: You need to get out more. Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: I know, I know, but they're always there. They're 24 hours a day. They're always happy to hear from me. but this is one of the unintended consequences of AI and by the way, that you know, how it's going to be used to alter reality. just a side note here, our ministry does a lot of work in China, and we're taking some of my Bible teaching, and we're. I mean, we've been doing stuff in Mandarin for a long time, but, recently some folks associated with our ministry took my series on the Book of Revelation and they. They fed my voice into, let's just call it AI Generator. That's. That's all I know how to say it. And when you, when you. When there's my face down on the corner, there's all these graphics. It was about Armageddon and the end of the world. And the Second coming is very, you know, it was very dramatic and the music in the background and all that. But the voice was speaking Mandarin. It was. My voice altered somehow through AI so it sounded like Ray Pritchard, but speaking Mandarin, which, I know, like two words of Mandarin, but Ed, ah, this is the other part of it. And I didn't even realize it's the first time around. They altered my, my mouth so that if you looked at my mouth, I was not speaking English words. I was. I was not only, quote, speaking Mandarin, a language I do not know, but they altered my face so that it looked like I was speaking Mandarin. It was so good. I didn't even realize that until somebody told me. I went back and said, whoa. And those are good guys. Those are people who support, who are on our ministry team. This is just the tip of the iceberg of where we're going with artificial intelligence. I don't know if that's a rant or not, but it's fascinating.
Ray: We are not prepared for the unintended consequences or moral and ethical fallout
>> Steve Jordahl: I need to jump in here because, Ed, you said something about, holding people accountable like this. In the big beautiful bill, there is a provision that states cannot pass any regulation on AI for 10 full years.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, this. This is a. This is a moral and ethical mess that we are just, for most people, just what Ray just said. I've had my voice cloned before. It's it can be very helpful. Okay, but what Ray just said. There are people listening. They're going. Wait, What? They can do that? We are many people. Most people are just now hearing about this, but we're already waist deep in it. Like you said, we are not prepared to deal with the unintended consequences or the moral and ethical fallout from AI Seeping into every nook and cranny of human existence.
>> Steve Jordahl: Some of it good. We had the story about, Elon Musk, who's going to be using AI to implant directly to the visual cortex and basically cure blindness.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: But a lot too bad to go along with it.
>> Tim Wildmon: What. What. What you were describing there, Ray, which was all good and positive. That. But that can be flipped.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And. And that's. That's. That's scary to think about your voice being cloned. What if.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And your facial, it looks like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, what. What. What's going to happen when, the world sees a video of Tim Wildmon.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: or Ed Vitagliano saying. Saying racist stuff?
>> Steve Jordahl: They're already using it to use folk. They get your voice, they call your parent. You're a parent. And it's in their child's voice. I'm kidnapped. I need help. Money.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I take. If AI I could be swayed. If AI will help Mississippi State win an SEC championship in football. I think I can be persuaded to go over to that side. We'll see you tomorrow, everybody.
