Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio network. We got 24 and a half more minutes of program here on this Tuesday, September, second, Tim, Wesley and Ray. And joining us now is in studio is our colleague Steve Paisley. Jordo.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody. I've missed y'. All. How you been?
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome home.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, so we missed you too.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, we did. That. That's heartfelt, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know, I know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was just telling Steve I actually got a pair of paisley shorts while he was gone. That's a matter how much I missed you.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I have a pair of, paisley gym shorts as part of a little trend going on with the boys that I coach. And I, I looked up and I'm, I was like, you know what I thought about Steve?
>> Tim Wildmon: They wear, they make something called paisley gym shorts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh yeah. I'll bring him in the studio one day.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's catching on, Tim.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It is something big. Making a run.
Tell us about your cruise to Alaska. That was going to be my first question
>> Tim Wildmon: So tell us about your cruise to Alaska.
>> Steve Jordahl: It was wonderful. we went to Alaska. I posted some pictures that Brent has put up on our Facebook page if you all want to go see those. There's just some and they're about five or six photos out of like 100 that I took.
>> Tim Wildmon: But our Today's Issues Facebook page.
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues Facebook page. You can go look at those pictures. beautiful scenery. Man. God is such a creative, beautiful creator. The animals and the scenery and the, the water, the immensity of it all and the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now you, when you do a cruise, like you left from Seattle.
>> Steve Jordahl: Seattle.
>> Tim Wildmon: And do you, when you're going to Alaska, are you out in the ocean where you can't see the shore or you going along the Canadian.
>> Steve Jordahl: So they went out into international water so that they could do their casino, I think what they had to do or sell all their tax free stuff. So yeah, we were out when we were doing the day long, the, the sea days when you're at sea all day, going from one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. How long does it take, Seattle to Alaska?
>> Steve Jordahl: the first day was a sea day. We went all the way up to Sitka. So the first day on, we didn't do any stops. Went up to Sitka, then we came down to Glacier Bay and then Ketchikan and then another sea day down to Victoria B.C. and then, home to Seattle. So and, and we took. Canard Canard, is it? It's an interesting cruise line. it's British. So I'm not saying the food wasn't good, but the food was good. Food was great, but it was British food.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That was going to be my first question. They want to interrupt though, the food.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, okay, so my, my criticism of, I'm not. It's an older clientele.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm not going to say that they were really, really old. But one of the shore excursions was Burial at Sea. Oh. So, you know, just so you could.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word. They advertise that.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's good.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But you're not kidding, are you?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. All right. Hold on a second. Wait. I got something possible these days. Well played, though.
Bernard gives his cruise about a five out of ten
>> Tim Wildmon: Before we said sail, ladies and gentlemen, let me make you aware of a couple aerial at sea program you can purchase for 51.
>> Steve Jordahl: It was, it was an older clientele.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now how does that affect the food, though?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's separate.
>> Wesley Wildmon: What it means is I was gonna.
>> Tim Wildmon: Soup and custard.
>> Steve Jordahl: What it means is that the, the clientele means that there was not a lot of 20, 30 year olds partying all night and a lot. Not a lot of teenagers and kids running around.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: there were two formal nights. We're dressed up at tuxes and.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's good. Sounds like a fun trip.
>> Steve Jordahl: It was great. It was really good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Canard is the name.
>> Steve Jordahl: Bernard.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: I, I, I'd give it. I'm giving my cruise about a five. And I, I don't mean that to be, like that. It was five.
>> Tim Wildmon: Out of what?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, let's just tell. Many pounds I gained, but I.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Boom. He came back a lot of food.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, okay, but. But on the food now, the British. So I've been on a bunch of cruises but never been on that cruise line. So what kind of food did they have?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, so it's a combination. If you went to, they had one kind of pub type thing where you can get bangers and mash and. And,
>> Tim Wildmon: Bangers and mash.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sausage and potatoes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think I was a com. comedian.
>> Steve Jordahl: Cottage pie and all this kind of British stuff.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Here y' all go again. Losing me.
>> Steve Jordahl: But they, but fingers. And on the, the buffet, there was a lot of seafood. Lot of seafood going on, of course. So salmon smoked, salmon's pretty good and everything.
>> Tim Wildmon: that's great. Well, welcome home.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Glad you avoided an iceberg.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, well, we went. We went, through some very little ones in Glacier Bay.
>> Tim Wildmon: You had a very little iceberg?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, Glacier Bay is a full tiny one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So the ship just pushes it aside.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they're just the size of tiny ones. Maybe the size of, up to this, you know, like a laptop or something.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's probably not something you advertise either. Yeah, probably come with us as we smash into icebergs all along the way. oh, anyway, so welcome home.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you. Great to be.
Rosie O' Donnell apologized for inaccurate comments about Minneapolis shooting
>> Tim Wildmon: What's your first news story?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, can I clean up some stuff from the, shooting in, in, Minneapolis?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, please do.
>> Steve Jordahl: let me start here. Rosie o' Donnell went on and decided that she was going to, without any prior knowledge, without any research, decided what was the score and she gave it. And then she had to apologize and walk it back. So I'm going to play cut 11. You're going to hear what she has to say about the shooter and then her apology immediately following cut 11.
>> Speaker E: What do you know? Was a white guy, Republican MAGA person? What do you know? Hi, everybody, it's Rosie O'. Donnell. Star the Flintstones. Listen, I know a lot of you were very upset about the video I made before I went away, for a few days. I didn't go online and haven't seen them till today. But you are right, I did not do my due diligence before I made that emotional. And, I said things about the shooter that were incorrect. I assumed, like most shooters, they followed a standard MO and had standard, you know, feelings of, you know, NRA loving kind of gun people. Anyway, the truth is I messed up. And when you mess up, you fess up. I'm sorry. This is my apology video video. and I hope it's enough.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Rosie O', Donnell, Rosie ODonnell.
>> Steve Jordahl: She, she's. She, moved out of the United States when Trump came. She actually moved. She's in Ireland.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good for her.
>> Tim Wildmon: So immediately after the story broke about what happened in Minneapolis where this trans person, shot and killed. That shot and killed. The two people died and many others injured at the Catholic school there. We all know that what happened last week. So her immediate comments without even knowing anything, was to say this was a maga. White. Did she say white person?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Republican.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: How does she.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: She didn't even know any of that. Well, maybe she called it an emotional response.
>> Steve Jordahl: Maybe, she might have seen that he was white, right? Yeah, I don't know that she knows.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that make any difference?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, but then you just fill in the blanks. You see what you want to see.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. But in order to make that kind of comment, you, if you made it within about 30 minutes of what you. Of the news, you could probably get away with that without saying we didn't have enough information. But within three hours, she didn't say.
>> Tim Wildmon: We don't have enough information.
>> Wesley Wildmon: She said, I know, I know. Trying to give her the benefit.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's because she wanted it to be what, she said it was written initially and then she had to walk.
>> Steve Jordahl: It all back and, but even her apology said, you know, the normal, MO is nra. That's not, that's never true. It's never happened.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: The other issue with the shooting is otherwise.
>> Tim Wildmon: She's a great actress.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, I know Flintstones, Rosie o'.
>> Tim Wildmon: Donnell, I mean.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But, every time she does she introduce. I say every time. The videos I've seen where she introduces and then she has a, a rant on a topic which she's usually wrong and far left on. She all. She introduces herself with her. Do y' all remember? She'll say, you remember I was a Flintstone actor. I'm like, yeah, you have to do this every time.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would just skip that. Just, just, just say I worked in Hollywood.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: She was on field. She was on a League of Their Own.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Watch that on the plane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. She's done a few movies, TV shows.
Ray Buckley: We need action on school shootings rather than prayers
>> Steve Jordahl: the other issue coming out and Ray, I want to get your thoughts on this, the issue. We had a lot of people criticizing thoughts and prayers toward the, victims. And so, Jed Psaki was the first one to come out and she wrote, I had enough of your thoughts and prayers. We need action as they, they're all doing to the gun control thing. And so, Caroline Levitt and Speaker Mike Johnson had something to say about Psaki's comments. Cut 10. She took to X to post the following.
>> Tim Wildmon: Prayer is not enough. Prayers do not end school shootings.
>> Steve Jordahl: Prayers do not make parents feel safe sending their kids to school.
>> Tim Wildmon: Prayer does not bring these kids back. Enough with the thoughts and prayers. I saw the comments of my predecessor.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Ms. Psaki, and frankly, I think.
>> Tim Wildmon: They'Re incredibly insensitive, disrespectful to the tens of millions of Americans of faith across this country who believe in the power of prayer. It's disrespectful to the millions of Americans of faith.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's incredible to me that Jen Psaki and Gavin Newsom and others would attack religion, diminish the faith of Millions of Americans at a time of such great tragedy. There are a lot of common sense solutions, things that can be done to protect children at schools and in churches that do not involve, taking away the constitutional rights of law abiding American citizens.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ray, when we pray, about shootings like this, do we expect God to put a force field around the students that the bullets can't penetrate? What's the purpose of our prayers?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, look, every single day, Steve, Marlene and I pray for our grandkids separated from us by hundreds of miles. Right. I, I got, I'm just saying this on a personal basis. I, can't. I can't physically protect my kids grandkids up in Missoula, Montana or in Wheaton, Illinois. But the Lord can. He can plant the angels of God around them to protect them. Does that guarantee they will not be hurt? No, it does not. Does it guarantee that some crazy, mentally deranged person may start shooting and may hit one of my grandkids? No. I understand that's a possibility in a fallen world. But when I pray, I am asking God to do what only God can do. I'm asking him, I guess I'm saying, Steve, I'm asking him to do something I can't do. God is everywhere. He is present in the deepest, darkest situations. And I am praying, oh, God, protect them. So, I would say in answer to Jen Psaki, that we ought to pray and we ought to act. I am for ending school shootings. Who isn't for ending school shootings? Pray. We ought to pray. Then you ought to step in and we ought to do what we can to protect the children, of this nation from the predators out there and from the people who are so mentally deranged they take a gun and shoot through the windows at kids while they are, are praying. I don't know. I, I don't know the real final answer, but I know this. If we stop praying, things will not get better. They can only get worse.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's, it, it's kind of like, we're. We're praying. Not only we're praying for comfort, obviously for support, but God's ultimate glory is what we want out of these things, right? God, to be honored. And sometimes, you know, he, he will use everything to his glory.
>> Tim Wildmon: How do you. Go ahead?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Do you want to follow?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, go.
We've had an increase in school shootings since we removed prayer, Steve
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. So what I was gonna. One of the positions I took when I heard that was the day. Meaning the Democrats, are for the removal of prayer in school. They are there for the removal. In fact there's been a, there was a court case 1962 that removed prayer in schools. So now that we've removed prayer in schools, now there's exception in Christian schools and and private schools there's some exceptions there. But in public schools we've removed prayer. So now that we've removed prayer. I'm not saying there's a direct correlation here but there ah are cause and effect. But if you look at it, we've had an increase in school shootings since we removed prayer from school. So if we're going to say that less prayer is more actionable. They voted for, they have removed school prayer and now there's more shootings. So apparently their idea of not praying is not that effective.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, as far as what started this, that was Jen Psaki, the former press secretary for Joe Biden and she's the one that ranted that you know prayers others as well do I know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: She'S not the only one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What they want, they won't. They live in a fantasy world. And so they think that somehow we're going to outlaw guns in America. Yeah, that's what, that's what their hope and quote prayer is that guns are outlawed in America and that will stop school shootings and other shootings that take place in public places where innocent people die. And as we've said time and time again, the argument from these people on the left is illogical. But they don't, they can't, they just, they reboot the same argument over and over again. Because if, if, if you outlaw guns, if you, even if the liberals had their way, not all liberals feel this way, but the far lefties to outlaw guns, then they're going to say well if you outlaw guns then that will stop school shootings. Okay, that's what they, that's, that's their, that's their argument.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We're agreeing with you.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's their argument. So if you outlaw guns, guess who's going to have guns?
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, all the criminals will turn them in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tim, you say sarcastically. So Steve, you're saying your thoughts and sarcasm are with us.
>> Steve Jordahl: My thoughts and sarcasm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, my point. So only crim. If you outlaw guns then law abiding citizens are guns would theoretically obey the law. We have a second amendment in this country. I'm just saying theoretically the only people that would have guns would be the.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Bad guys which is what they're taking off the streets in Washington D.C. right through.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So, but, but in this case you have. As I've said before, you're not going to stop evil completely on planet Earth until Jesus Christ comes back and sets up his kingdom. Until then we're going to have good versus evil, right versus wrong.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Uh-huh.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So don't infringe on the good people's rights.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's the way, that's the way it's going to be. I think that that's biblical. you have a spiritual war going on on planet Earth. And I remember reading in the Bible the other day, Ray, that I forgot where it was. Thessalonians or somewhere where Paul goes, we were going to come visit you, but Satan prevented us from coming to you.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was thinking myself, Satan prevented you. I thought you were on God's side. Then God overcome Satan and allow you to go. Well, I'm saying that because as long as we have live in a, what's called a fallen world or a sinful world. I know non Christians don't even have a clue what I'm talking about. But if you, if you're a born again believer and you studied the Bible, you know what I'm talking about. Good versus evil, spirit versus flesh, all those things that we understand to be true in the spiritual realm that you're going to have. As long as we live in this fallen world, you're going to have evil that sometimes prevails in situations, sadly and unfortunately. But that's just the way it is. but still we're told to pray. Yeah, when we pray, we're praying because the Bible says we're to pray. Jesus said we're to pray, so we're being obedient to him. but as far as bad things happening to even good people, that's never going to stop until Jesus Christ sets up his rule on Earth.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have heard several people suggest this. Okay. If you want to go with gun laws, you know, the red flag laws that they have that prevent mentally ill people from owning guns, you know, you stop it before the psychopath gets the gun. Right. Well add transgender to that list. Let's see how they like that. Because it's a mental, it's a mental illness. And a lot of the shootings of recent, there's more than two transgender.
>> Tim Wildmon: The national shooting was a transgender person, too as well.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. So let's see, you know, targeting a Christian school.
>> Tim Wildmon: Targeting a Christian school. Same, same, same situation.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The M.O. that Rosie, O' Donnell should have been.
Pope Francis says we need to get rid of illegal guns
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I was disappointed to see Pope, Leo the 14th also weigh in on this and said he called for an end to the pandemic of arms, large and small.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean?
>> Steve Jordahl: Guns. Pope came in and said, get rid of the guns. He didn't say anything about the human heart.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he, he does. In fairness, he does talk about the human heart. The Popes do from time to time. But yeah, so he's, he's say, he's saying what about the arms.
>> Steve Jordahl: His quote is, I, call for an entry. The quote, pandemic of arms large and small.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that. But I know I'm asking you to defend the Pope. That show you're saying he's calling for gun. More gun control.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, remember, he's from Chicago too. And, and you can't, you can't blame him for saying we need to get rid of the guns because they are everywhere and in many of them in bad hands. Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You know what we can, you know what we can agree on with the liberals is to get rid of, unlawful guns. Yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm start with, start with those.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. The people that have, have that, that have guns illegally. Let's start with those because that's what they're doing in Washington D.C. they've removed hundreds of illegal guns from criminals.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good point. Our next story, Steve.
Peter Thiel is doing a four part series on the Antichrist
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Hey. Something I'm watching. I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you watching it?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm watching it. I won't be able to tell you, probably for a while yet. Any good? But, there's a group out there called the Acts 17 collective. I haven't had a chance to look at what Acts 17 sounds like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Jewelry.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I know. Ray, do you know what's in Acts 17? This is technology leaders who are Christian, and bringing Christ into technology.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Acts 17 is Paul on Mars Hill. Paul speaking to the philosophers of ancient Athens.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, the first, that I'm aware of first. It's like a TED talk series for tech.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I know what you're going to.
>> Steve Jordahl: Peter Thiel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Is going to be doing a four part series on the Antichrist.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Antichrist.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is the founder of, Palantir, one of the most wealthiest men in the world. How his Christian faith informs his understanding of the world, including areas of theology, history, literature and politics of the Antichrist. So it's going to be in the Commonwealth, club in San Francisco. I'm really interested to see what he's gonna say.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now, I'm not familiar with Peter Till. Should I be?
>> Steve Jordahl: He's a tech mogul.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What did he. Did he do PayPal or.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: was he in business with either. Either Zuckerberg or Musk or one of those.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Ah, I thought you're looking for a pen. I had you there. Peter.
>> Tim Wildmon: Peter Till.
>> Wesley Wildmon: If you. When you say tech, I can automatically say I'm not familiar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anything tech, wise one.
>> Tim Wildmon: PayPal.
>> Steve Jordahl: PayPal, yeah. The founder of PayPal, who's the one.
>> Tim Wildmon: That'S friends with Trump, that was, gay.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's. Hm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Him.
>> Steve Jordahl: Peter Thiel. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that him?
>> Tim Wildmon: So, yeah, like, let me. I'm just looking here. yeah, yeah. Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So did he get saved? I don't change his lifestyle. Or is he still openly homosexual?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's an interesting question. I did not put those two things together.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he's doing a TED Talk on what you say.
>> Steve Jordahl: The Antichrist. His. How the Christian. How his Christian faith informs his understanding of the world.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: We live in strange times, I will tell you that.
>> Steve Jordahl: We do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you going to listen to it? Are you going to listen to it, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: well, if it's available, they're saying that they're not planning on putting it out. You have to. They're going to make you pay for it. So. I'm not going to pay for it, that's for sure. But hey, I want to leave you with this if I can.
Why not take a vacation to beautiful Southern California
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, you leave us with it.
>> Steve Jordahl: I've just come back from a vacation and. But I know that you guys maybe need one and I have a suggestion. This is, a, the, the visitors bureau of a certain part of our country came out with this nice appeal to come and visit them. You might want to choose this location for your next location. cut 17. Is your city boring? Too clean, too safe. Why not take a vacation to beautiful Southern California? Whether you're being assaulted by our drug addicted vagrants walking down Hollywood Boulevard, or you're just taking a minute to enjoy the scenery of used needles, trash and human waste, Southern California is the ultimate destination for cultural enrichment. Why not see what awaits you under future president Gavin Newsom? Come visit SoCal today and see what everyone is talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the Babylon Bee.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, but it could be.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man. Yeah, that's, that's.
>> Steve Jordahl: That'S.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know, maybe. That's probably very accurate. That's probably sponsored by the, by Texas or Florida, I bet.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. I don't know who did it, but, yeah, for sure.
Southern California is naturally beautiful and the weather's great most of the year
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Well, anyway, Southern California, it is naturally beautiful there and the weather's great. Most of the year. But, yeah, they got real. Especially in Los Angeles. They got real problems. M as that guy alluded.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I have visited there once before on a work trip, and it air. There were multiple blocks. Sometimes I could walk for five blocks, and I was having to walk around the homeless.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, really? Weaving in and out those homeless camps 110 after.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We're not. And we're not talking about on the outskirts. We're talking about the middle of town.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right, right. All right. Ray, thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Our, Thanks to. My thanks to Steve and Wesley and Chris and Brent Creeley, our producer.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Brent loves flying.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? Now?
>> Wesley Wildmon: You didn't hear him in the background earlier? He was. He didn't agree that he kind of went off on Chris about how flying safer than driving. He didn't agree.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Brent's not gonna be flying today. all right, have a great day, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: See you tomorrow, Sam.
