Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordal
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed Wesley. And now, Steve Paisley Jordal.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bar from the 90s. Steve's in the house. Bar from the 90s, the Larsenio Hall.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Raise the roof.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's the first one I actually can follow you on. When you go back in time, usually you go back further to where I have no idea and I'm left out of the conversation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, well, isn't that where I remember that one that's in the house. I just remember that expression coming along back and the.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Raise the roof.
>> Tim Wildmon: Raise the roof. That's Ed's thing. He can even do the hand signals.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The hand motions without messing it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Raise the, raise the right. That's Ed's thing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm, I'm cool.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He doesn't dance, but he can dance with razor roof now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: M. Never a good dancer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now. I'm still here. I'm still, I'm still hearing people in their 40s and 50s. I'm post that now, but they, they still use the expression, give them a quote. Shout out, end of quote.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Give a shout out.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was that our center?
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that maintaining its, its relevancy or shout out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Just want to give a shout out.
>> Tim Wildmon: That out date, you know, we're old.
>> Steve Jordahl: We're old man. So we still use it. But I don't know about.
>> Tim Wildmon: People want to give a shout out. You know what I'm.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was that an Arsenio hall thing about that era?
>> Steve Jordahl: If he, if he did raise the roof in the room and a shout out man, that guy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: That guy is a cultural.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. He lives on, I don't know whatever happened to him.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, no. Either.
>> Tim Wildmon: Arsenio Hall. all right. good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's first on your agenda, Steve?
The United States government was trying to break up Google over its Chrome browser
>> Steve Jordahl: That was a pretty solid, important court ruling that went on in the, District of Columbia District, court. And it's basically the United States government was trying to break up Google over its Chrome browser, saying it had a monopoly. About 90% of all of the searches, were being done by Chrome. And Chrome was paying, the service providers to put them, at the top of the list. The government said, that's wrong. They shouldn't do that. So Judge Amit P. Mehta, no relationship to the meta, tech company, of the U.S. district Court, said, okay, you don't have to sell off, Chrome, which is what the government wanted but you do have to start sharing more info. And we're going to restrict the way that you pay, browsers or you pay, Internet service providers to put your browser at the top of the list. It's basically opening up the competition to, search engines like DuckDuckGo or Firefox and that kind of thing. So it's the first, it's actually one of the very first, rulings of, of the kind of how to dispel tech monopolies in 20 years is the first time that they've, they've done a, you know, like a Ma Bell breakup type thing with tech companies. So it's, this is kind of landmark in a way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm in favor of competition and I, I do think that there is sometimes a problem with companies who have aggregated so much, and brought it inside the walls. Sometimes it's, they create something and then, they, they, nobody else can really break in now. I'm not an economic whiz.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, you are. Don't, don't, don't try to sell yourself shorted.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So in terms of breaking up, you know, monopolies, you know, trust busting and all that, that goes back to the early 1900s. I generally think it's a good idea to open up. Now, I don't know the specifics about this. As you're explaining it, I understand it 15 minutes from now, I probably would not be able to explain it. But that does, that does make sense. Google is very, very dominant.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the difference between Google search, engine and Google Chrome?
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, so Google is the name of the company that, owns the search engine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Chrome.
>> Steve Jordahl: Chrome is that if you look on the bottom of your, tray of your, your computer, that's the, There's a Chrome icon down there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, that's the browser, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: The browser, right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's where you do your searching. Is that Chrome from.
>> Steve Jordahl: It might not be Chrome.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's And Google is not only the company, but it's usually referred to as the search engine.
>> Steve Jordahl: But, but here's how, how dominant they've been. They named a search after the company you Google. Something like you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Kleenex. When you're, you're, you know, it's not just tissue, it's Kleenex. That's how good they were at marketing. That's how good Google is at marketing. They developed it and everything, but they're getting a little too powerful. They're kind of, shutting out competition. And it's it's, not being fair. They say so. And this is probably going to be the courts for years. It's going to go to the Supreme Court.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: and there's other cases that are coming up that could.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. When I open my iPhone up, I got, Apple, Bing, Google, Yahoo.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I think if you, if you open them up, there's another one says like, Duck. Duck. Go.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, duck. Safari, maybe.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Safari is connected with Apple.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Safari is not a search engine, am I right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a, it's a browser. So that's how you, that's how you access the Internet, is through a browser. Safari does have a search feature if you, if you. That's kind of the default, browser for Apple products.
>> Tim Wildmon: So if I hit on Apple right there, that a search engine. I thought a search engine is like brave.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think those are all.
>> Tim Wildmon: Search engines, including DuckDuckGo, Google, Yahoo. Those are search engines. Right. Safari is a browser, which is different. Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't think there's a difference.
>> Ed Vitagliano: there isn't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: There's not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so Safari is a search engine.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the reason they get the term browser is that's how you browse the Internet. Now. You don't have to use a search feature though, is what I'm saying. You don't have to use a search feature to go to a website.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think Steve's going to find out for us.
>> Steve Jordahl: A web browser like Chrome or Safari is a software application used to access and display web content. While a search engine like Google or Bing is a website or service that helps you find information online by crawling and indexing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Once an application, once a, once a.
>> Tim Wildmon: Website, you know, there are certain things.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I just want to know what the point of this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, there's no. I'm with you. You know, you don't want to divide your friendship or family over what a browser is.
>> Steve Jordahl: Not again.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's something else I could say about this conversation here, but I'm not going to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because I want to move on.
Replacement migration is the greatest threat to the entire west currently faces
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think you still have a point that you hadn't gotten to though.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I do. But if I make that point, it leads to y'. All. Oh. Especially you saying no, no, no, no. And I don't, I don't want to do that right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: we've already had enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: There are more important things in the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: World to talk about, like whether we should blow up boats in the middle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of the Gulf of America.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: Immigration we can't get enough of that. A X feed called Irish Statistics has put out 23, 25 to 34 year old age group in Ireland is Now right around 30, I'm sorry, 59% ethnic Irish.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, start over on that one again because I don't think people caught that. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: The 25 to 34 year old age group in Ireland. Uh-huh. Is now about 59% ethnic Irish. Everything else is immigrants. that would be like 41% immigrant.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is currently dropping. The ethnic Irish are dropping by 2.3% per year.
>> Tim Wildmon: why, why is that?
>> Steve Jordahl: Because they're not having babies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not having babies.
>> Steve Jordahl: Not having babies.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why not? They're Catholics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, well they probably Catholics in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Name only, but yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: and most people, when they don't have babies, it's not really a religious issue to them. I think it's a kind of a money issue.
>> Tim Wildmon: Money or they don't want to be bothered with children either.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Either of those.
>> Steve Jordahl: Says one commentator. Replacement migration is the greatest threat to the entire west currently faces. Elon Musk chimes in low birth rate numbers is the greatest threat, followed closely by migration. There will be no west if this continues, according to Elon Musk.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now, in the European countries, a lot of those are Muslims, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. Well, almost all of the immigrants, the immigrants, all of the immigration issues, I think currently I don't are Muslim. There's not a, I mean there is a lot of Hispanic immigration into this country, but it's not as, as threatening to take over governments and police forces and such.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because the fact of the matter is, if you're talking about the United States and our culture.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We are much, we have much more in common with people from Latin American countries. Obviously there are some cultural differences in terms of language and food, but we share a Christian heritage.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With Latin America. But Muslims moving into Europe, first of all, it's the age old dream of Islam is to conquer Europe.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But they do not share Western values for the most part. They may want to go to Europe to get a better life, but they do not.
>> Steve Jordahl: They want to go to Europe to take over. Well, I'm just saying it's a plan Jihad.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. What they call it, Well, I don't, I'm not sure. Individual Muslims are thinking that certainly imams and, and a lot of them are.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thinking, I want to go to a.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Better life, I want to go to a better life. But they, but if they are practicing Islam, they cannot embrace Western values. Islam does not allow it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They don't even. Islam doesn't even allow democracy. They don't even believe people should vote because Allah makes the decisions and you follow it through Sharia law. So Europe, is in grave danger.
>> Tim Wildmon: This story is saying that there's in probably 30 or less years, there's not going to be any Irishman.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Less than that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. There's. There's going to be. No, no more, very few. They'll be in the minority, at least in their own country.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And at that point you've. The majority can vote.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Massive change.
>> Steve Jordahl: If I leashes so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, same thing in Japan. And Japan's not because of people, immigrating in and blending in with the, native Japanese people. The Japanese are not having babies either.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is a problem, in many places.
>> Steve Jordahl: In Minneapolis, for example, too, I would say it's assimilation. Right. It's the people come into a country, you want them to assume the values of that country. We have a right in the United States to bring in people that are going to build our value as Americans with our American values, our language, our culture. We build that up and it. And you contribute to that.
It was the Irish that immigrated here to the US during potato famine
You're welcome in. But if you're going to come in and do an enclave, you're going to start taking over and changing our culture, we really should have a right to say, you don't belong here.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, the irony is here that, it was the Irish that immigrated here to the US as much as any other group of people. do you call them an ethnicity? I'm not sure. back in the. During the potato famine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Was that late 1800s and early 19? I think maybe late 1800s, Irish came in from.
>> Tim Wildmon: Came, in, to New England. That's why the bond.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Chicago, New York.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's why Boston's called Celtics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 45 to 1849 was the, potato famine. And that triggered massive immigration into the.
>> Tim Wildmon: U. S. Into the U. S. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And the Italians came after that and growing up.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is tomato famine, didn't they? Tomatoes in Italy, Was that right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That would be catastrophic.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. And I remember growing up and my Italian side of the family talking about their, ancestors coming in in the late 1800s, 19. Early 1900s, and trying to get jobs in major cities like Chicago and New York and Boston. And the Irish were, well, rooted into the power structures of those cities, like the police departments and. And they would hang out signs that said, nina, no Italians need apply. So that Happened. That happened. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But evidently the Italians cracked the system.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They got in.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's how the Mafia started. I was hesitating. I didn't want to say that. That just came to my m. Mind. That was inappropriate, okay? That was inappropriate ethnic stereotyping. And I apologize.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I saw you, I saw the smirk on your face, and I thought, here it comes. And by the way, the, The. The Irish are treated that way. First, those signs.
>> Tim Wildmon: They had their own gang.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: The.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No Irish need apply.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. When they came over and. And then they did Anglos, then they kicking them out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So for our Irish listeners, and what's funny is my uncle Al. My Uncle Al's Italian. He married an Irish woman. They wound up getting divorced, years later. But that was a fiery, relationship.
>> Tim Wildmon: Irish, Irish, Italian combo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: There.
Birth rates are way down in Europe and some Asian countries
All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. But, the birth rate, is a. Being way down in Europe and some Asian countries in the United States and Canada even, is a serious problem. and so, I don't know, you know, who knows? We may not have any Irishmen in 50 years. Who are these people? We may be studying them. You know, studying the lost, lost country of Ireland.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I remember writing some articles for our magazine, now known as the Standard back in the, 2007, 2008 time, where there were people saying there may not be any Russians or Italians.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because their birth rates were so low, that in a generation or two. And by the way, what this means is you. If two, a man and a woman have to have two kids to replace themselves, that's what they call it, the replacement rate. and then a tenth.
>> Steve Jordahl: A tenth of one to keep the momentum.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, a tenth. So 2.1 is considered the replacement rate. And that covers infant mortality, that 0.1. but so if you. If two parents have one kid after one generation, whatever that ethnic group is.
>> Steve Jordahl: It'S diminished by half.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's half cut in half. And if you do that again for another generation, you keep having the, the. The ethnic group.
>> Tim Wildmon: What do you think? What's the reason for that ultimately? Maybe we already talked about this. What's the reason for the. For the lower. Well, the birth rates keep going down.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The explanations are secularism, so you lose touch with God. you don't believe in God anymore, so you stop believing in the future. You stop believing in self sacrifice, to give to your children. There is the money aspect of how much money it takes to raise Kids. and there was one more. I can't recall what the explanation was, but there were two or three explanations for, when countries become modern and start enjoying life, there is less likelihood that the people will have kids because you have to spend the money you're using to enjoy life to raise kids.
>> Steve Jordahl: Let me ask you this. But the fact that so many people live together without being married is if they put a kid into the occasion, is that like a glue that's gonna stick those two people together without being able to. Because there's always an escape hatch. Right. If you're not married, I can always leave. And I think that's part of the reason why people don't get married. They're gonna try it out. They may be together 10 years and then all of a sudden they grow apart. And, well, we're not married anyway. But if they have a kid, then they're stuck. And it's a glue that holds a family together. And so I think it has cohabitation.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It has probably those probably all valid. having kids used to be a little bit more of an impediment to getting quick divorces, no fault divorces. I'm not sure that's true anymore because at least some percentage of these divorces.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Not sure anymore.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. No, I'm just sad it's not.
What third reason why the decline in birth rates could be attributed to secularism
Hey, I was going to ask you about your third one. Would that be the lack of human, life or care or value of life?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That could be third.
>> Tim Wildmon: What third reason why the decline you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Mentioned to the first one you mentioned was I think by far the number one cause. But there are obviously other ones as well. And I think the value of life. And you look at the abortion, in European countries.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wrote, I wrote the article 18 years ago and I can't recall all the reasons that the experts, said.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think, you know, having the birth control pill.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a game changer too. And then the abortion pill now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I do think, I do think secularism, that is the loss of respect for, for God. God says, you know, to be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth.
>> Steve Jordahl: It used to be the only commandment that the world would obey. But not anymore.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And they in, by and large, they value family. They devalue, that kids are a burden instead of a blessing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. If you, if all you got to the here and now, why do you want to have kids to burden you?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I remember what the third one was. What it was concern for the Environment.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: and then also. So this was in with that one. It was also concern for the state of the world. Why should we bring kids into a fallen. Messed up.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, but.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But the environmental concern where the overpopulation warnings were. You can't have a lot of kids because it'll destroy the climate.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, that's what.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story. Steve.
British authorities arrested comedian Graham Leinen for anti trans tweets
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Free speech is on the. In peril in Great Britain. They have arrested a British comedian who has. the British police. The British government has taken, a comedian off of a plane. He was going to leave, but they arrested him for anti trans tweets. His name is Graham Leinen. He is the, comedy force behind, I guess there's a program called Father Ted. I'm not sure if, if I know. I'm familiar with it, but you might. Some of our audience might be. Anyway, that's what he's most known for. But he was putting out some tweets that the government considered anti trans, saying the trans activists do men or women? Men are men, women are women, and that kind of thing. And they arrested him and put him in prison for it.
>> Tim Wildmon: And m. They arrested him at the airport, didn't they?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, they pulled him off of a.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is in Britain.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. And so, Nigel Farage was talking about this and I want you to hear what he had to say. This has got seven.
>> Nigel Farage: What is happening in my once great country is truly, truly terrifying. Free speech is being impinged upon on in every single way. Satire is now almost banned. Well, isn't that what human beings are? Are we allowed to challenge each other? So this is really, really bad. It's really bad news.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is shocking what's happening in. In Great Britain for tweets, for, quote, anti trans tweets.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now, did he. Not that any of this matters from a moral or ethical standpoint of being arrested, but did he even. Did he tweet while he was even in the country? Did he tweet before he went to the country? You know what I mean? Like, where did. I guess, where was he physically located when he tweeted he was in the.
>> Steve Jordahl: Country when he was arrested? Probably he was in the country.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But now, hasn't the UK threatened Americans.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who tweeted things in this country? They say, if you come to our country, we'll arrest you over here for it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's ridiculous. You know, Piers Morgan is putting himself a little bit on the line.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: And. And you with this. This Is from June, but it just came to my attention. This is Piers Morgan with a, a couple of, A trans athlete and a lawyer. I just want to let you hear this. Cut 11.
>> Piers Morgan: Sara, why do you want to be a cheat? I mean, seriously, why do you want to be a cheat? That's what you're doing. You're cheating.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cheating.
>> Dr. Weberly: Yes, Very disrespectful.
>> Piers Morgan: You know what, Dr. Weberly? It's really. It really isn't. It cuts to the heart of the debate. It is cheating. It is knowingly using a superior biology from birth to beat women who are born with female bodies. It is cheating, and it's time to call it out for what it is. And Dr. Weberly, the idea you're a doctor and don't think that this is about science is breathtaking to me. Breathtaking? Of course. It's about human being.
>> Dr. Weberly: I'm a doctor. I'm a human being. I'm a compassionate person.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What's that got to do with it?
>> Piers Morgan: Why aren't you compassionate to women who are losing gold medals to men?
>> Dr. Weberly: I don't understand why you have this. This. Both of you have this huge thing where we have to not one single woman. Woman must be affected by these terrible people. What about inclusion? We are living in a world where we want everybody.
>> Piers Morgan: Oh, it's got nothing to do with incl. This is where the trouble.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's a brilliant takedown.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he dunked on her.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which is. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sarah White. She's a trans pickleball man.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Got dunked on the woman.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We do have pickleball.
This weekend, I start my podcast on afore called national security Military force
>> Wesley Wildmon: We do have an announcement we got to make before the program.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This weekend, I start my podcast on afore called national security Military force.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you got me on that one.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Saturday, too.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was thinking, man, what are you. Where are you finding The Saturday podcast?
>> Wesley Wildmon: 5:00Am in the morning, if you need.
>> Ed Vitagliano: To start your weekends with your kids. Yeah, five o' clock in the background.
All right, we're out of time. See you back here tomorrow, everybody
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're out. We're out of time. We thank you for yours. Tim, Ed. Wesley. Yes. I thought I spoke in third person there. Fred, Brent Creeley, our producer. Steve and Fred. See you back here tomorrow, everybody.
