Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordal
>> Fred Jackson: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.
>> Steve Jordahl: Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio, Tim with Fred and Ray. And now, Steve Paisley Jordal joins us. Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Steve. We were talking about our favorite game shows.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And before the break, and Ray mentioned he won a bunch of money on.
>> Tim Wildmon: A program called SH Back in the day.
>> Steve Jordahl: Shoe. Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: You remember this show?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't remember that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Ray, remember you would if you.
>> Steve Jordahl: Want a bunch of money.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. When were you in Southern California? What years?
>> Steve Jordahl: 1980, 82, 83, 84, 85 somewhere.
>> Tim Wildmon: You were there before that, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve, you're just too young.
>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you. I haven't heard that in years.
>> Tim Wildmon: In a long time.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I was pastoring a, little church in Downey, California, 1979. And just on a lark, I saw in the, I think LA Times, you know, if you want to try out for this game show. Didn't know anything about it or. No, I guess I was watching the show one day and it said, come up. And so I went up and went through the interview process and played one game of. On CBS show which lasted maybe 10 months and won $26,200 mackerel.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's. And thus launched everything else. I was, I was going to Biola University, and a friend of mine, her family got cast on the Family Feud show. It's back when it was Richard Dawson. Remember Richard Dawson used to kiss all the ladies and everything. her family went up against Raleigh Fingers. Remember the reliever for the Oakland.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, sure.
>> Steve Jordahl: His family. Raleigh and his family were up against the family. That girl, I knew I got to sit in the front row. You got the seats. Raleigh won. He won a new car. Not like he needed one, but I got to shake his hand afterwards. He was with the Milwaukee brewers at the time, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, M. Raleigh Fingers.
>> Steve Jordahl: Raleigh Fingers won, on the family, Feud.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I got to play golf with him.
>> Steve Jordahl: Did you really?
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you said hi for me two years ago. I didn't know at the time. That story right there.
>> Steve Jordahl: He wouldn't remember me. He would have remembered Family Feud. He would have remembered me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. There was a celebrity golf tournament in, Orlando about two or three years ago. I forgot. And, so he was on my foursome team. A lot of fun.
>> Steve Jordahl: Still got the mustache to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I got the handlebar mustache going on. He lived in Las Vegas and. But he was There as
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, the ace are going to Las Vegas. Are joining him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well that's true, that's true. So I said my aunt won on the Price is Right and when the shows in New York and she won a car and that would have been in the. So I looked it up and the. The Price is Right was filmed in New York City from 1956 to 1965.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: A new car before they moved. Bill Cullen, remember him?
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was before,
>> Fred Jackson: Bob Barker.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bob Barker. For Bob Barker and. But I don't really have a.
We talked about our favorite ah, game show. It's just nothing but game shows now
We talked about our favorite ah, game show. I. I don't know. I did watch I guess Wheel of Fortune watched that like everybody else watched that some back in the. But Pat Sajak's like, huh?
>> Steve Jordahl: He's passed away. No, no, no, that's it. Alex Trebek Truman.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pat Sajak know this.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was sitting with Donald Trump over the weekend. I guess.
>> Tim Wildmon: Apparently that. When you said that I was shocked.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, no, it was. I was thinking of Alice Trebek. My, My fault.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Those are two different people.
>> Steve Jordahl: Very much so.
>> Tim Wildmon: So one's dead, one's alive.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that's the. But he. Yeah, but it's true. Alex Trebek did. Yeah, yeah. But Pat Sajak was. He was host of Wheel of fortune like for 40 years.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh yeah, he just retired fairly recently.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean we thought Tom Brady had a long run.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Is Vanna White still on that show?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think she is.
>> Steve Jordahl: She is.
>> Tim Wildmon: So she retired by now, I would have thought.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So, Heather's family, Heather's folks, her mom, they are into the game show network. There's a whole network on cable tv. It's just nothing but game shows now. Some old, some new. But they all spend hours watching these different. It's fun. You get to try to guess all the questions.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they have old game shows?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, there are current versions of old game shows. Okay, so they have a Family Feud that's hosted by Steve Harvey.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's My Line was pretty cool.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Remember that?
>> Tim Wildmon: That was pretty cool. Back in the suit. That's super sales era right there. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That goes way back.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then what was the one with Hollywood Squares?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, Hollywood Squares. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Paul Lynn.
>> Tim Wildmon: Paul Lynn in the middle.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right. That was about as as risque a show as you'd ever want to have.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you remember the Match Game?
>> Tim Wildmon: The Match Game, Yeah, I remember the theme. Seems you remember the ten thousand dollar pyramid.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. Okay, now that was Good. That was good.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was Dick Clark.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The best I remember. Yeah. Oh, those. Those were the days back in the day right there, huh? for the poor. The, scrolling sucked up everybody's time right there. We. We used to kill time, watch game show. How about.
>> Tim Wildmon: How about the password?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: I remember that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Word is banquet.
>> Steve Jordahl: Banquet.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man. Back in the day, everybody's got a back in the day, don't they? So, Fred, what would you say your favorite game show was?
>> Fred Jackson: It was Prices.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right now, was that in, Canada, too? Oh, yeah, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: What about?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is being questioned by Bernie Sanders on vaccines
To make, Let's Make a Deal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's Make a Deal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Carol was either in front of curtain one, two or three. Right, Right. Carol Merrill, I think another name. Is that her real name? Is that a stage name? Carol Merrill?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: M. Carol Merrill. She is. She was a Vanna White before Vanna White came along. Right there. M. She just had to stand before.
>> Steve Jordahl: Everybody used to come and see if they did. If you have a paper clip and a, and a guitar pick, I'll give you a hundred dollars.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, I often thought with Vanna White.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Imagine spending decades. Your career.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Flipping letters.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: I guess she found that rewarding. Maybe.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think she found the paycheck.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think she found that part of it very rewarding.
>> Tim Wildmon: there are worse ways to make a living, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: I guess, you know, what do you do for a living? Numbers.
>> Tim Wildmon: Flip those letters.
>> Tim Wildmon: At some point, fulfillment in life is, outdone by how much money you make. so anyway, it's nice when the two can join, but, anyway, you're listening to today's issue. What's your first story, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: I've been kind of keeping an eye on TV, and, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is taking some shots on the Senate Finance Committee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Some shots I like. Yeah. There. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: But he's given back as good as he's got. I got to tell you, he's not a favorite among Democrats. Of course he's siding with Donald Trump, so just by default, they're going to go against him. But as you guys have, already said, he's taking. He's speaking against vaccine mandates. He's been redoing the COVID vaccine scheme. Who gets. Should get that and everything. And, childhood, childhood disease is one of the things that's on his bucket, list. He wants to tackle the rise in autism and the rise of childhood diseases. He and Ron Wyden got into a little bit, and I want to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's that?
>> Steve Jordahl: Ron Wyden's a senator from Oregon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And I wanted to let you hear the last. this is at the end of the questioning from ron Wyden to RFK Jr and this is how it ended. Cut 13.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: How many preventable child deaths are an acceptable sacrifice for enacting an agenda that I think is fundamentally cruel and defies common sense? thank you, Mr. Chairman. Do I got a reply or. Senator, you've sat in that chair for how long? 20, 25 years, while the chronic disease in our children went up to 76%, and you said nothing. You never asked the question why it's happening. Why is this happening today? For the first time in 20 years, we learned that infant mortality has increased in our country. It's not because I came in here. It's because of what happened during the Biden administration that we're going to end.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a very good comeback by RFK.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So he's being questioned, RFK Jr right now by Bernie Sanders. Bernie's going to have a heart attack if he keeps this up. He is just going ballistic.
>> Tim Wildmon: Whatever you think of RFK Jr. He knows his stuff. He does okay. This is his. He's been talking about this for years.
>> Steve Jordahl: he seems almost unflappable, you know, like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he. He's. He's. Now he's listening to Bernie Sanders, I guess lecture him, and he sits back.
>> Fred Jackson: RFK Jr. Will sit back as these Democrats are ranting and ranting, and he just smiles.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he's a Democrat, I know. Or at least formally maybe. I think he's an independent now, but.
>> Fred Jackson: I mean, it must gall Democrats that a Kennedy is in front of them and he is on Trump's team. I mean, this is. This is a political miracle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, what do you think? Okay, the larger picture here that I think, RFK Jr. Is bringing up, without getting into arguments about vaccines per se, our individual, vaccines per se is he is emphasizing what he would call poisons that we're putting into, our bodies, in particular, children. and I'm not talking about rat poison or something like that.
RFK is concerned about what we are eating and its impact on kids
I'm talking about, our diets. wouldn't you say, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. And that's a bigger. That's actually, I think, been as big or bigger a part of his agenda so far, is what we are eating, adults, kids, and its impact on us. And he's really pushing towards, you know, more organic Type foods, that kind of thing. because our bodies react so well to organic food versus. And one of the big things has been, is the, the, additives to cereal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, additives. He's really big on the, He sure is warning against the additives.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. And I think people were shocked when they found out. They just, they just thought, okay, my Cheerios has got this color, that sort of thing. But when they found out what they're putting in to make those colors.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And now he wants to put like using fruit to color Cheerios or whatever the case may be.
>> Steve Jordahl: So the rate of autism in the United States in 2000 was six kids, six and a half kids per thousand children. In 2024, it's one in 31.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you have to ask why is that?
>> Steve Jordahl: Why is that?
>> Fred Jackson: Why is that?
>> Steve Jordahl: And that's what RFK is after. Those kind of answers, we're doing something to the kids. ADHD is like through the roof. And a lot of that, of course, parents or, some advocates will say has nothing to do with an actual disorder. It's just kids that. My dad used to have this saying. Their teacher tells you to sit down. God tells you to get up and run. Who you going to obey? You know, the kids are meant to get up and run.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: They're not meant to sit in front of a classroom for hours and just be docile. But, autism is a different. That's an actual disorder and it's on the. It's going through the roof.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Gender activists brought incredible pressure to bear on scientists to fake numbers, author says
Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, another, sacred cow is starting to fall. And boy, this one could not happen quick enough. There's a, an article out, on a, publication called Unheard of, and it's called the Taming.
>> Tim Wildmon: Never heard of it.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go. It's right spot on. This particular publication, the name of this article is called the Taming of a Gender Researcher. And it talks about a guy named Gordon Gyat, who's an authority on medical research, on what they're calling society of Evidence Based Gender Medicine. And what evidence Based Gender medicine does is it takes the studies that they did and it makes them broad studies. In fact, what's happening. So instead of you have a study that has 1,000 kids and it, looks what gender does to those thousand kids, this one will take it after it's been applied and say, how does this scale out? So when you have 10,000, 12,000, 100,000 kids to do this, what are the outcomes? Does it fit with what the study said? And they're finding that it doesn't in gender medicine. This is a story of, of incredible pressure, ferocious pressure. Quoting from the article from trans activists to disavow research, to denounce the use of work, and to fudge the numbers. gender activists, trans activists brought incredible pressure to bear on scientists to fake the numbers. And they're being outed. I wanted to let you hear this is an authority, the New Yorker. His name is Malcolm Gladwell. And he was on a panel a couple years ago where he was pressured to say, oh, you know, you're killing youth if you don't let them transgender transition, they're going to commit suicide. It's harming them. It's just the most natural thing in the world. You can come back from it all. You make your decision later. Just start them down that path. All of those lies. He capitulated under pressure and listen to what he says now. Cut 10.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we greatly appreciate this.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm sorry, if we did a.
>> Speaker F: Replay of that exact panel at the Sloan conference this coming March, it runs in exactly the opposite direction and it would be, I suspect, near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have no place in, the female category. I don't think there's any question. I just think it was a strange, I mean I felt, I mean I was the reason I'm ashamed of my performance of that panel because I share your position 100% and I was count the idea of saying anything on this issue. I was in a, I believe in retrospect in a dishonest way. I was, I was objective in a dishonest way.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who was that gentleman?
>> Steve Jordahl: Malcolm Gladwell.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's interesting because that's what the pro trans, pressure machine for life. And it comes in various forms. That's what they try to do to people who disagree with them or who bring up objections to them and, and they even go so far as to attacking somebody as high profile, as wealthy and even a liberal person by and large. And that is J.K. rowling, the author, the author of the Harry Potter series. She's world famous, but she disagrees with the trans movement. Replace a, ah, beat, putting them in and calling them women. And she's very outspoken on this and they've tried to cancel her. Of course she can't be canceled. She's beyond that now. But what this fellow is saying is that we just heard is the pressure is so great that even on the medical community, I Guess and the scientific community, they can be swayed, like he said he was, by just the pressure.
>> Steve Jordahl: They use the splc, the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's documented in here how the Southern Poverty Poverty Law center issued a report in December 2023 about a supposed pseudoscientific network of anti LGBT groups, including the Society for the, Evidence, based Gender Medicine to harm trans youths.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And, and they, they would say, the splc, for example, and these pro trans organizations, they're going to tell you, that because you don't accept the trans, transgender people for what they say they are, because you don't accept that, therefore you're a hater. And your hate causes them to, to have psychological problems. Therefore, when they, commit suicide, it's your fault.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: you especially, you bunch of Christians who don't accept this. Now, Christians aren't the only ones who object to this. But, and then, and then they're going to say to. If a transgendered confused person on drugs, like what happened in Minnesota, goes in and kills a bunch of people, and that happened also in Nashville, remember, about what, a year and a half ago or so, that's also your fault, you bunch of Christians, because, you're. And others because you're not accepting of the, of the, trans. This isn't. You can't lump the trans in with the lgbtq because there's a lot of the LGB that don't agree with the trans movement. So that's not, that's. They're not together altogether. They're not together altogether. So does that make sense?
>> Steve Jordahl: I just sent this article, the Taming of a Gender Researcher, to Brent to post on our, Facebook page or Today's Issues page. This, our whole m. The whole movie we put out, about the gender.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dysphoria in his image.
>> Steve Jordahl: In his image, we're, we're being proven. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ah, in real time, the dominoes are falling.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. God made, male and female. Jesus talked about that, you know, to.
>> Tim Wildmon: See, to see Malcolm Gladwell, who is a New York Times writer. Right. And well known bestseller. For him to. It says something about how things have shifted in the culture in the right direction.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because Jesus himself, he quoted from Genesis, chapter two, male, female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother. And what? And be cleave to be joined to his wife. You have biological males, you have biological females, both of them made by God and created in God's image. There are two genders and only two. And everything else is just made up dangerous nonsense.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, Ed has a very good way of. Battagliano has a very good way of framing this, issue that everybody can understand. I hope I can explain it right. He says, you know, when we have somebody who's anorexic, you don't tell them when they say I'm fat. You know, you're right. You are. I affirm you, I affirm you as, as a.
The left makes laws to silence anybody opposed to what they're saying
As a obese person.
>> Steve Jordahl: So you give you a lap band.
>> Tim Wildmon: You need to stay on this. You need to stay on this extreme diet. Oh, nobody does that. You say this person has a psychological problem, as now you say a spiritual problem, too. But everybody would agree that they have a mental or psychological problem if they think they're, obese, when in fact, they are skinny. And, you don't. You don't. You don't affirm that. So Ed would say it's the same thing. You don't tell somebody who is a male who says they're a female. You don't say, you know what you are. Now, you may have male genitalia, but you are a female because you feel like it. To do that is to encourage, a mental disorder.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: and also just to flat out deny reality.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: But there are so many people who have planted a flag on this hill or want to die on it. They are dying on it, but I think there's a battle yet to come. You've seen these, interviews, or these protesters who are out there yelling, threatening. If you don't use the right pronoun, I'm gonna. You know, you're gonna. I'm gonna beat you up or whatever they say. the tide is turning against them, but I think it's gonna be a hard tree to fall.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, that's where a change of government comes in. Because what happened to whether it's trends or whether it's climate change, the left makes laws to silence anybody opposed, to what they're saying. You know, during COVID you mentioned Ivermectin. You're off the air. we're just. We're not going to tolerate. That's what the left does. The left does not believe in free speech.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, we've been talking about this story about the Irish comedian this week, right. Arrives into Heathrow Airport. He's got five cops waiting for him in London. What did I do?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, you said something about trans.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: And that was.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's in London. And you would think they had free speech. But no, no, they're arresting this comedian who is a celebrity.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: off the airplane because he had. They said you had tweets that were mean to, trans people.
>> Fred Jackson: You offended people. We're going to arrest you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I wonder what they're going to do about J.K. rowling, though, and, Martina Navratilova and others. Because there are others.
>> Fred Jackson: Somebody has raised that concern because J.K. rowling, Farage, who, is Nigel Farage? He testified at a hearing here in the United States the other day and mentioned this. You know that free speech is in jeopardy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.
The Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles tonight in the NFL
All right, Steve, we got about one minute to go.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just want to look at some headlines from our, our favorite truth telling magazine, the, the, Babylon Bee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: and, you know, we're coming up to, Thanksgiving and everything, and the. Donald Trump has done another favor to the country. He has bombed the ship, smuggling 30,000 kilos of pumpkin spice coming into the country. And in a related story, we hear that Hunter Biden is telling his dad he's going to need a new boat. Oh.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word. so, that's good. Okay. The Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles tonight. So starts the NFL, season. Who does Kansas City Chiefs start off tomorrow night?
>> Tim Wildmon: They're at the Chargers, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, at the Chargers.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they're playing in Brazil. So Paulo. It's in Brazil. Way game for both of them.
>> Tim Wildmon: So is, Taylor Swift.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, that's the question, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's his name? Kelsey, they're engaged.
>> Steve Jordahl: And all the betting is that Swift is going to be the halftime performer at the super bowl this year.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just want to keep America.
>> Tim Wildmon: America.
>> Tim Wildmon: We just don't get enough Taylor Swift news in this country.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's our job. It's today's issues. It's why we're here.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, ladies and gentlemen, have a great, rest of your Thursday. Don't forget Trivia Fridays tomorrow. So if you want some education, you need to join us back 23, 22 and a half hours from now. my thanks to Steve, Fred Ray, Brent Creeley, our producer Chris Woodward, and who else was. Sandy Rios was on with us. Have a great afternoon. Keep listening to afr.
>> Fred Jackson: Sam.
