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Tim Wildman: Christians call each other brother and sister

Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian.

>> Tim Wildmon: Response to the issues of the day. Huh? Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tom Wildmon. As the announcer just told you, today's Thursday, August 28, 2025. In studio with me is Ed Battagliano. Good morning, brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Brother Fred Jackson.

>> Fred Jackson: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And keeping with the brotherhood here, Ray Pritchard's in Kansas City. Good morning, brother Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, brother Tim. How are you today?

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm doing, doing, doing great, doing well. why do, why do Christians call each other brother and sister? well, how long does that go back?

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, it goes back 2000 years, all the way, all the way to the Bible. Right. Christians, we are in the family of God. If you have believed in Jesus, if you know him, everybody who knows Jesus is my brother and sister. Might be different denominations, certainly different languages, different cultures. But Tim, we're part of a brotherhood and sisterhood, if you will, that stretches around the world.

>> Tim Wildmon: That must seem strange to non Christians or people who are not familiar with that, you know, that, to hear people call each other that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and I think especially to the point Ray's making, one of the points he's making is that, we, we have that, that, link to people from different, completely different backgrounds, different cultures, you know, different, languages, different countries. And, and, and we're linked by that very unique faith.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And you know, it, it's interesting and it proves the Bible so that our, our connection with each other through our faith in Christ supersedes everything else. So we are actually more of a brother with our brother in Christ and we are with our physical brother, our brother oftentimes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So that's, that's, that's the way that works. But as Ed and Fred said and, and Ray, said, this goes all the way Back to the 2000 years. Yeah, 2000 years of Christians being considered brothers and sisters to each other. I just remember when I was young, it seemed like younger. A lot younger. Like childhood. I just seemed like we had more people calling each, back in the, you know, sister, so and so, brother.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So I, I, I'm doing it actually a lot the older I get because I forget people's names.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hi, brother.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey.

>> Tim Wildmon: It works. Hello, Saint at church.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, we have a pretty good sized church. So how, does that sound, brother?

>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Yeah, you have to go. That's, Is that it? Is that a pronoun? It is a, Is that a, or is that a brother?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I think, I don't use a pronoun. It's a noun.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's just a noun. Straight up now.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: it doesn't even identify as a pronoun.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, it's just a regular noun.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Regular noun.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Dr. Alex McFarland will be with us at the bottom of the hour. And we're having a little, fun here to start the program.

Fred Seibert: Minneapolis school shooting left two dead and 14 wounded

But it's a very sad day in Minneapolis, and people, in mourning there, Fred, because of what happened.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Last evening there at this Catholic school in Minneapolis, there was a vigil, to remember the two kids who were shot and killed by this guy. 17 others, 14 of the students at this Catholic school were wounded. We can report this morning that doctors at various hospitals in Minneapolis have done a remarkable job on those who were wounded. We are told that all of them will survive, but just a horrible experience. Just to review some, of those who may have not heard the details, about this time, maybe a little earlier yesterday. They were just a few days into a new school year at this Catholic school in southern part of Minneapolis. And they were in a chapel service. They were holding a mass at this Catholic school. The kids were just coming in there. They were sitting in pews when, a guy who we now known as 23 Year Old Robin Westman, who identified as a female, we'll talk about more about that in a moment. He stood outside and began to fire. a multitude of weapons were told into that chapel through windows. Through windows. Indiscriminate shooting. And two kids, two young kids, passed away almost instantly. And as I say, 17 others, including 14 other kids, were wounded in all of this. Hundreds attended that vigil there last night. It is a scene almost that's reminiscent of the school shooting the, that we had in Nashville back few years ago. And we're going to talk a little bit because in both cases the shooter was a transgender. The, the authorities have taken down a video that this 23 year old Robin Westman, in the Minneapolis case, he made a video, posted it on X and created a, what's being called a manifesto. As to where his thinking was in.

>> Tim Wildmon: All of this, I thought it was YouTube or was it both?

>> Fred Jackson: I, I think why? Saw a copy of it on, on X. Okay, all right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just remember yesterday, excuse me for interrupted, but they said YouTube took it down. Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: What made me think, yeah, and again, some similarities to Nashville. You know, some manifestos disappeared all of a sudden and because apparently some authorities don't want people to know that, that in both cases it was a transgender individual. But this person in Minneapolis, 23 year old Robin Westman, in this video you can see the cache of weapons that he had. And on some of the weapons, some of the magazines, and he was spewing hatred against a whole group of people. Donald Trump was mentioned. and on one of the magazines of this high powered rifle, he just wrote ha ha ha on it. anyway, so that's, that's right, this.

>> Tim Wildmon: One'S for the kids.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That he did say this is for the kids. Ha ha ha. On one of the magazines.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So, that's where we are, because of this manifesto. We know that. and various excerpts of that. If you go to, our coverage on afn, in one of these videos, the shooter shows cash weapons kill Donald Trump. And, and also, where is your God written on them? On these, on these weapons.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where is your God?

>> Fred Jackson: Where is your God? And then the New York Post is also reporting on this, saying he was tired of being transgender. He, says I only keep the long hair because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I'm tired of being trans. I wish I never brainwashed myself. He wrote, according to a translation by the Post. So a very.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ray, this man, this young man, how old was he?

>> Fred Jackson: 23.

>> Tim Wildmon: And he killed himself?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, he did.

>> Tim Wildmon: after he finished shooting. He killed himself?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: what was wrong with this guy?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the two or three answers to the question, because I read part of what you were talking about Fred, yesterday before they took it down. We throw around the phrase deeply troubled. But here is a young man whose mind and heart was warped by what he had been through. I mean, he says he, he doesn't even want to be trans anymore, yet he has the stuff on there. This is for the kids. Hahaha. I think it shows two things. Number one, you can be truly mentally sick or mentally ill and still be m morally culpable for what you do. And this young man was deeply troubled and mentally deranged and probably demonically inspired. And yet he planned it. He intended to do it. he went there, killed those kids, and then took his own life. about as evil an act as you can imagine, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: CNN is, reporting that the police chief there and, was it the police chief of Minneapolis proper?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. His name is, Brian o'. Hara.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. He's saying that the shooter was. Tried to get inside the church and couldn't or didn't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: For some reason. So it could have been much worse had he been able to get inside the church with all the kids trapped in there. I say trapped, you know, all together in one place where he could actually see them. Was there been any report of security?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, some of the. I, guess instructors at the school took boards and ran them across the latches of some of the outside doors. So when this began to unfold so that the doors could not be pushed open. Pushed open.

>> Tim Wildmon: They were probably prepared in that way. I mean, that sounds planned.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: One of the planned.

There are still media outlets claiming that there's still no motive for school shooting

>> Fred Jackson: One of the kids who survived, he's 10 years old. he said they had practiced a possible shooter, in the classroom environment.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: But they had never practiced it in the chapel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: and maybe this guy Westman knew that the chapel was a vulnerability.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because he had attended there before.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I'm not sure. His mom worked there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. What I read was that he had attended there, but then left because he wanted to change his gender. And his mom signed off on that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I, saw that, too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know whether that's the reason why he left, but I'm just. The only reason I'm mentioning it is he might have had firsthand knowledge of schedule that they typically keep.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you live close by, evidently.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I was noticing on. I think this is down one of the feeds we have, the video feeds we have from the news. I think it's was, msnbc, or maybe it was cnbc. that there are still media outlets claiming that there's still no motive being determined for this. I. I find that kind of hard to believe. Let. Let me. Let me just say this, though. I. I want us to be fair. and I don't like it when the other side does this to Christians. This does not mean that all transgender people are this evil in terms of wanting to kill people. So I do want to say that. On the other hand, I was reading over overnight last night was reading on X. people screenshotting some of the comments being made by people who were transgendered and at least these individuals. That's. I'm being very careful not to put this on the entire basket of people who fit into the transgender identification. but these people were celebrating this murder, These murders and this attack say.

>> Tim Wildmon: And why?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, they were saying, good. so now straight people, straight parents can feel the pain that we in the transgender community feel when we are hated and abused. And this is. I was kind of stunned now, again, but this is. It winds up being anecdotal because these are screenshots of what people posted. But in my life, I never thought we'd reach the point where. And we see this increasingly on the left, politically speaking with Trump, but I never thought I'd see people celebrating the murder of little children. Well, and turning this into a, a cult, a part of the culture war.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, So I think we have to back up here kind of along the lines of what you're talking about. it's, it's helpful and to understand why somebody did something that, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. However, as we always say, the individual is responsible themselves, not. Not the group. Right, right. So when Dylan Roof, was that his name in South Carolina.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Went into, that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Went into the black church there and killed all those people because he was, it was racially motivated. Right. he was a white, young, young guy. All right, so that, that was obviously evil, reprehensible, abhorrent, all the words you can think of. But he was responsible for his own actions.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: He didn't represent all white people.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: If he did that. But, but, but the liberal media, they take whatever their cause du jour is, and they really, they really can't stand, Republicans.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are, and white people who are conservative. Okay. So they, anytime there was something like that, they say, see, this is motivated by white conservatism.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Our white Christianity. That's what they want to say. So they lop everybody in together as that's the reason for it. Yet when this happens on somebody on the left, like in this case the transgender. This guy was obviously mentally and spiritually messed up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. they don't, they don't even want to talk about that aspect. The angle that maybe it appears to be this guy, who was Robert, who changed to Robin. He was motivated. it appeared. Well, he was messed up altogether, but the motivation may have been he hated Christians.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I mean, is that a far fetched thing to think? He went to a Catholic school and started mowing down innocent children, killing innocent children. So what was his motive? His motive was a hate crime. They don't even. The liberals. Liberal media don't even want to talk about that. You start talking about a, hate crime against Christians, they want to flip it to gun control.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You see what I'm saying? That's they want to talk about. So, but, but when it, when a, violent act like this is committed by somebody who they would say is conservative, although I would. We could parse that out, whether that's actually a legitimate claim or not, then it isn't gun control so much.

It's that they're a conservative. Right. That's the reason their ideas are at fault

It's that they're a conservative.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. That's the reason their ideas are at fault.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You see what I'm saying?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, absolutely. And, I want us to get. And then we can toss this back to Ray to get his take on this.

People on the left ridicule Christians when they say prayers after school shootings

But another thing that's kind of playing out in this, it, for some reason, when we have these shootings here, the last three or four years, we have heard people on the left get angry, Fred, When Christians say pray for the survivors. and they seem to hate that and they basically, ridicule, prayer for those people and imply that that's clearly not enough. And you have something with, Was it Jen Psaki?

>> Fred Jackson: Jen Psaki. Not only Jen Psaki, but the mayor of Minneapolis said much the thing as Jen Psaki said. You know, a lot of people when these incidents, they say our thoughts and prayers are with those individuals. Well, yesterday, Jen Psaki, who was Biden's first White House spokesperson, circle back. She now works, I think still with msnbc M. Highly rated show. Yeah. She said prayer is not freaking enough. Prayer does not end school shootings. Prayers do not make parents feel safe sending their kids to school. Prayer does not bring these kids back. Enough with the thoughts and prayers. And end quote.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does she propose we do?

>> Ed Vitagliano: She say she wants. She wants to take away guns. I'm sure she didn't say it in that, but I, I'm sure that that's what she was thinking. Ray, this seems to more and more be the reaction from people on the left, many of whom not all. Many of whom have either no religious beliefs or they are hostile towards Christianity and want to insert their mockery of what Christians immediately do in situations like this. They want to pray and cry out to God and pray for the people because there's compassion in the heart of a Christian. And I don't know anybody who doesn't think. I mean, I'VE got grandkids in school. I think about the horror of this kind of thing happening. the immediate tendency, for a Christian is to cry out for mercy and grace and comfort for those who have lost dear ones.

>> Tim Wildmon: you know, Ed, a crisis brings out what is inside every human heart. this, this, this shocking event yesterday. Of course it's going to bring out in the hearts of Christians an enormous, overwhelming desire to cry out to God, to pray for those who were hit but not killed, that they might survive, that God would protect, that God would guide, that God would bring about healing inside that church and with the families, and we pray for the families of those, of those two children that were murdered. Why wouldn't you do that? There's nothing more than natural or normal for a Christian. And look, this is. We're talking about a Catholic church, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think there's any. None of us are Catholics. Might be Baptist, could be Methodist, could be Presbyterians. Doesn't matter. At a moment like this, if you know the Lord and claim the name of Jesus, the most natural thing in the world is to cry out to God. And for Jen Psaki to say what she said, it's evidence of a hardness of heart, of a. Of a darkening of the heart. To say, almost to imply that. Enough, she said, enough with the prayers. Enough with the prayers.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like, you can't do more than one thing at a time. That's pray. And you can talk about, and.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can come to the aid and you can look at security, and you can look at. Could, could anything have been done to identify this young man.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. You can do all that.

>> Tim Wildmon: you could do all that. And you should pray also. like wise man said, once we can do many things once we have prayed. We can't do anything until we have prayed. Prayer ought to be our first resort, not the last.

>> Fred Jackson: After spewing this Jen Psaki I'm talking about, she put out another tweet, and I found this very interesting. She says, when kids are getting shot in their pews at a Catholic school mass, and your crime plan is to have National Guard put mulch down around D.C. maybe rethink your strategy.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does that even mean?

>> Fred Jackson: That's what, that's her spectrum of hatred, I think, quite frankly, she brings.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don, what does national guardsmen in D.C. have to do with what happened in Minneapolis?

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely nothing, Tim. But in her mind, they're all part of the problem. Donald Trump, these conservatives who talk about prayer and all this sort of thing. She lumps it all together.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. A lot of, you know, sometimes I can follow people I disagree with, at least their logic line.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But not this. Not with that.

>> Fred Jackson: That's bizarre.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's bizarre because frankly, the argument over guns cuts both ways in a case like this. Okay, yes. Like you're saying I can follow the logic of people. I don't, I don't agree with it. I can follow the logic with people on the left. Hey, if we had no guns, this wouldn't have happened. Okay, that's absurd. We all know that. That's, that's. I can follow what they're thinking. No guns means this won't happen anymore. Well, you know what? Since we're not going to get rid of guns, I would argue that having security or people with concealed carry in a church might be one of the solutions to preventing this from happening. Somebody who can shoot back. Okay, but that's in probably a gun free zone in Minneapolis. Probably very difficult to get.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sure the church, I'm sure the church itself is a gun free zone.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, probably. Probably. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So people who viol. People who kill people with guns don't care about gun laws.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: How hard is that for liberals to understand?

Todd Stern: Conservatives are against gun control because criminals will have guns

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: why don't they? Why don't they.

>> Fred Jackson: And the evidence of that is in D.C. they have the national. Since the National Guard went in, they have found, more than 100 unregistered weapons.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Two days ago it was 115.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: When they arrested criminals, they got guns from them that were illegally obtained.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's that. That proves what conservatives always said about the second amendment is criminals will have guns. It doesn't matter what you do to law abiding citizens.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can I say something? oh, that sounds like despair, but I don't, I don't mean to sound this way. Yeah, but I'm only. Everybody knows you're not going to stop. We'll have another school, shooting in a couple weeks or another month or six months. Somewhere in America we've got 340 million people. You're going to have some nuts out there, some nut jobs, Right. And they're going to act out on their craziness, or their evil.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, we're going to have drive by shootings. I'm sure plenty of them in big today, America today, over the weekend.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I guess the ringing of the hands bothers me sometimes. Especially when the left, when they go, we've got another school shooting. When is this ever going to stop? Until we get Rid of guns.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Conservatives are against gun control. If we didn't have guns. I heard Harold Ford Jr. Who, I watched sometimes on the five. I don't watch that show a lot. But he was saying the common denominator here is guns on all these. And I was going, oh, the common denominator on car accidents are cars. I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't get what your point is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I have a concealed carry permit and I keep my gun with me. It hadn't shot anybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not the gun, it's the person who's wielding it.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think the left does that to distract from talking about spiritual things.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily.

>> Todd: Hello, Americans. I'm Todd Stern. Standby for news and commentary.

Nearly 3 million kids attended Vacation Bible School at Southern Baptist churches last summer

Next Vacation Bible school may be old school, but it's still very popular among kids across the fruited plain. CBN News reports nearly 3 million kids attended VBS at Southern Baptist churches over the summer. Some 70,000 making a personal decision to follow Christ. Vacation Bible School, a week long affair hosted by churches, featuring fun adventure themes for kids, along with arts and crafts, singing, and lots of recreation. Many churches turn snack time into an art form. You know, when I was a kid, I got to double dip. I went to my family's Baptist church, vbs. Then I attended my grandparents VBS at the Methodist church. Now the Methodist had a lot better snacks. Almost switched denominations as a second grader because of that. The surge in VBS attendance could be a sign that more young families are now returning to the traditions of our faith. And the best part, kids actually want to get up early to go to VBS public school. And not so much. I'm Todd Stearns.

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>> Tim Wildmon: To more of today's issues. Hey, welcome back, everybody to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Fred and Ray. we thank you for listening to afr.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Nobody with more than one syllable is allowed on this right program except Brant is our producer.

>> Tim Wildmon: We do let Alex in and Sandy on the show.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, we do.

>> Tim Wildmon: But they're not full time. They're not qualified to be full time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Post here we have Cold, Cold Green is out there.

>> Tim Wildmon: We could call Alex Al. I guess maybe.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I had an uncle.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think that was a Paul Simon song.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I had an Uncle Al.

>> Tim Wildmon: He did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: My dad's brother.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Uncle Al.

>> Tim Wildmon: What was he like? Did he leave you a lot of money?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, man.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know how.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Why would he leave me?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know how people always say your rich uncle died and left a lot of money?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now there's no rich anything in the battalion.

>> Tim Wildmon: Rich. Rich and Battagliano just. That doesn't go together.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It has been oil and water.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

Dr. Alex McFarland joins us to discuss Minneapolis tragedy

All right. Well, anyway, we've been talking about the tragic, story out of Minneapolis, yesterday and the media's coverage of it. And joining us now is Dr. Alex McFarland, host of co host of Exploring the Word with Brother Burt Harper, each afternoon from 3 to 4 o' clock Central time right here on American Family Radio. Good morning, Alex.

>> Alex McFarland: Two syllable name. Greetings from North Carolina.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, by the way, is your name Alexander or is it just.

>> Alex McFarland: It is. Actually my first name is the same as my dad, Neil. So, Neil Alexander McFarland. but. So Neil is a one syllable word. I could go by that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, so is that. That's not K, N E E L, right? It's.

>> Alex McFarland: No, no. N E, I L L. Oh, all right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Neil Alexander. That, that sounds like historic or something.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's almost land on the moon name.

>> Alex McFarland: Now that's a fancy name for a chicken farmer, isn't it?

One of the things the left seems to miss is human accountability

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Alex, we've been talking obviously about what happened in Minneapolis yesterday. Give us your thoughts.

>> Alex McFarland: Well, it's very sad. It's very sad. I mean, there's a lot to say. But you, know, one of the things that the left seems to always miss is human accountability. And you know, Chuck Schumer and others instantly said, oh, this is another reason to ban firearms. where is the call for personal accountability and telling our culture about morals and yes, our accountability to God, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, the one thing the left does make it accept. Well, maybe two, but they do make an exception. You're right. They dismiss personal accountability. They blame the guns. unless it's the police officer involved.

>> Alex McFarland: Right, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: If a police officer is involved in an incident and it appears maybe the police officer was wrong or at fault, maybe then they go, it's the cop's fault, not the gun's fault.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a good point.

>> Tim Wildmon: But the cops fault. So it's the personal responsibility of the person.

>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, well, you know, the. The left, they omit personal responsibility when people break the law, but they invoke responsibility when police officers uphold the law.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's. Well, that's true. That's true. But why is that? Why do you think that is?

This transgender shooter lived out his worldview, you know, the left

>> Alex McFarland: Well, before I answer that, let me say about, you know, Robert Westman or Robin Westman, this transgender shooter, he lived out his worldview, you know, the left. And I've had college students say this to me. You should live your truth. Well, this is a tragedy. It's unspeakably wicked. What this, young man did yesterday. I mean, it is. The only word is wickedness. This was objectively evil. But the left tells young people to live their truth. And he did. He lived out his worldview. Now, it's interesting, and I sent you guys that New York Post link where he regretted that he had, quote, brainwashed himself to believe in transgenderism. And, I think it's interesting that, you know, the. The shooter, some months ago in Tennessee, also at a Christian school, that shooter was transgender. but there's a lot to be said here. first of all, murder is wrong. the sixth commandment says, thou shalt not murder. God does give nations and individuals the right to self defense, national defense. But that's not what this was. This was murder. but, you've got to understand, transgenderism is the ultimate form of moral relativism. Because, you know, it's one thing to say, God can't tell me how to behave. Transgenderism says God can't even define what I am. it is just a militant autonomy and this cognitive dissonance, this confusion, this delusion. And let's again say the left has encouraged, fostered, even subsidized this delusion called transgenderism. And it's very sad. And our nation, my prayer is that somebody asked me on a radio show last night, what good could possibly come out of this. Well, if our nation will repent and turn back to God and acknowledge from the pulpits, the parents on down, if we tell all generations, but especially young people, look, there is right, there is wrong, and we will give an account to God, and human life is sacred, and none of us has the right to take human life, as this murderer did, if a tragedy like this will finally convict us and cause us to turn back to God and moral truth, that's how this horrible, this otherwise horrible thing could be redeemed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You're listening to the radio program Today's Issues. Right. You Have a question for Alex maybe, or.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Alex, I was just listening to. To what you said. especially the part there at the end. If God could use this to. To. To wake America up. And I'm thinking about the horror of it. All these Catholic church kids at mass, they're praying. It's almost the worst possible situation.

Tim McFarland: Spiritual warfare is very real in today's world

I don't want to ask so much about this young man, Alex, but I want to ask about the whole transgender movement. Sometimes even in Christian circles, we talk about. Well, that's just another choice people make. But I think there are elements of spiritual warfare here that the Prince of Darkness is at work. Could you say something about the. I'm going to call it the demonic nature of what is happening in our world today?

>> Alex McFarland: Yes, Satan is real. spiritual warfare is very real. A lot of people don't realize this, but in, Well, among mental health professionals, there is, an acknowledgement of demonic activity. several years ago, I was asked to go to, I'm not being trite or anything like that. I literally was asked to go visit a woman in an insane asylum. And I did. And I went through a number of doors of security. And, there was a lady that I actually, as far as I'm aware, she accepted Christ. she had enough presence of mind that I shared the gospel with this lady. But, guys, I went to, in North Carolina, a facility for people that are clinically insane. And the spiritual heaviness was just palpable. But I was being briefed by a psychiatrist, and I had been. The family had asked me to see this lady. And he said, you know, Reverend McFarland, there are people here that, are all sorts of situations and even probable demonic possession. And I asked this psychiatrist, I said, are you. Are you a Christian? And he said, well, no, I'm not really a religious person. And I said, but you believe in demonic possession. And he's. This psychiatrist said to me, and we had a very lengthy discussion. He said, well, there are certain things that there's just no other explanation. And, guys, I know we don't have time to fully explore this, but let me just say I had an unbelievably deep, ah, conversation with a PhD psychiatrist who was not a Christian. And he said. And he referred me to a number of journal articles where, among people that are diagnosed as clinically insane, there are certain things that have been observed that are only explainable in spiritual terms. Now, what am I saying here, folks? Look, Satan, has attacked the image bearers. Imago dei. We are made in the image of God. Satan could not kill God. so he has tried to harm and dehumanize and debase those that are made in God's image. Do you know? and so guys, all murder is really, you know, I'm going to put it this way. Every murder of human life is really a manifestation of the killer's malice against the giver of life, God.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's why, you know, the Bible is clear on the. You say God handed down the ten Commandments. One of the, one of the ten commandments. Thou shalt not murder.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Alex McFarland: So do you know, guys? Let me ask. I would say among the left, just even pragmatically, even if, and guys, I remember April of 99, I was on the road speaking when the Columbine shooting went down. And I, was interviewed by a local radio station in Asheville, North Carolina. And I said, you know, why can't we tell young people about God and moral truth? and they say, oh, because that would violate the First Amendment. No, it would not. And that's another story. The man that wrote the First Amendment, Tim, I've. At more than 100 universities, I've asked audiences who wrote the First Amendment. I've yet to get an answer was a man named Fisher Ames. By the way, Ames, and Fisher Ames, who wrote the non establishment clause of the First Amendment. He said, I would that the Bible be taught in all public schools, for it is the best vehicle for teaching morality to young people. And I've asked a number of audiences, how do 21st century secularists know more about the application of the First Amendment than the man that wrote the First Amendment? even pragmatically, even if you didn't believe in God or Christianity, what would be the harm in telling young people that human life is sacred? And maybe they would treat it as such.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think a lot of those people, they just hate God. They do, they just hate God. It's, you know, Trump derangement syndrome. Right, It's God derangement syndrome. Yeah, they just hate God. they don't care if some of it's good. They just can't stand the idea of submitting their lives to, well, a higher authority.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To answer Alex question, what would be wrong in telling young people that life is sacred? Well, if you're going to say life is sacred, you have to translate life is holy, and then you have to eventually work your way back to God. And they, they refuse to do that. But because of their hostility.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Alex, so your Summer camps are over now.

>> Alex McFarland: Summer camps are over. We had over 300 salvation decisions among teenagers. Glory to God. But, and then last Thursday night, a week ago today, we had almost 2,000 people from 17 states that came to hear Charlie Kirk. And I just want to say how much I appreciate, the work of this evangelist is so augmented by the microphone of afr. And Tim, I'm deeply grateful.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're talking third person there, right?

>> Alex McFarland: Yes, sir.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just want to make clear people understood I understood what you were doing, but.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and I want to make, make it clear Ed understood what he was saying.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well there you go, Ed.

>> Alex McFarland: Bob Dole never said that. Do you remember that?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Oh yeah, he talked in third person. All right, so Tim says have a great day, Alex, and we look forward to hearing you and Burt this afternoon.

>> Alex McFarland: God bless you all.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, that's, that's, that's that's Neil Alexander McFarland joining us from North Carolina. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Thanks for listening to afr. Tim, Ed, Fred and Ray.

Mayor Browser of Washington D.C. gives statistics on National Guard use

I wanted to get to a couple more stories before the hours up. Namely this story. Yesterday the mayor of the district of Washington D.C. held a news conference and she was going over the statistics since President Trump initiated a federal takeover, so to speak, of law, enforcement in the nation's capital, which he has the constitutional authority to do because it is the one and only federal city that we have. That's why it's called a district, of Columbia. And it was pretty amazing because she's a liberal Democrat and yet she's all, she's ah, giving the numbers for how President, Trump's you know, use of the National Guard has, is changing her city. Go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: Unless three weeks ago she was opposed to it. Yeah, she didn't want those soldiers there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mayor Browser. Yeah, that's her name.

>> Fred Jackson: We don't need that. We don't know it. But yesterday she was singing a.

>> Tim Wildmon: To her credit.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep. Singing a different tune. Cut three.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And we greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance, what MPD has been able to do in this city. The difference between this period, this 20 day period of this federal surge and last year represents a 87% reduction in carjackings in Washington D.C. that was.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just part of what she said.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me read it right. A quote here from her. she said for car. she said, This is Mayor Browser again. She is a. She will, she will now be tarred and feathered or whatever. Stoned, whatever.

>> Fred Jackson: About her, off the Christmas list.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Her fellow liberal Democrats will never forgive her for what she said yesterday. Yesterday she said we, she did say we greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what pd, the mpd, that's the Metro Police Department has been able to do in this city. Then she said for carjacking, the difference between this period, this 20 day period of federal search and difference between that and last year represent 87% reduction in carjackings. you know, it's sad when you've got to have percentages related to carjackings. Yes. Usually percentage usually would say, well we had two carjackings last year. No, there's so many that in Washington D.C. they have to have percentages, how much it's dropped. But she said we know that when carjacking go down, when use of guns go down, when use of gun goes down, when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safe and are safer. So this surge has been important to us for that reason. So I just say kudos to her for just telling the statistical truth about how President Trump's actions has made, have made her city safer.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now I don't know how long you can sustain this because how long can President Trump use the National Guard for these purposes?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well said, 30 days.

>> Fred Jackson: 30 days.

>> Tim Wildmon: But then can you renew it?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Congress, I think Congress has to do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Something, they can renew it. Well, I would think if the mayor of the city request it as well as the President, the Congress would have no choice but to go along with, with with the, with the request. Ray, any thoughts on this?

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, once again President Trump gets attacked, he takes action, could care less what his critics say. He, he does something and in this case, once again he has been entirely vindicated. Tim, to think about and I heard you said about the percentage. It just means things were not just bad, they were awful in Washington. And I would say, wouldn't you think Tim, an 87% decrease, that's pretty good proof that it worked.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And there's been, am I wrong in saying there have been no murders? No murders. So for the same period compared to last year, it's 100% drop.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. M. Everybody with a brain knew that this was going to happen. The number, the crime is going to go way down, at least temporarily because the presence of the National Guard and other law enforcement agencies, to there all over the streets will prevent a lot of crime itself. okay, so again, how long they can maintain that Presence. We'll see.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, you know, I've heard these mayors of, you know, the governor of Illinois, mayor of Chicago. Stay away. We don't want.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: even here in Kansas City, our, our leaders are making the same kind of noise. It would seem to me that you would want these kind of results. Okay, so within 30 days, no murders and 87% drop in various kinds of crime. That's unbelievable. Think what that could do in Chicago. Look, I know it's not a federal city, but think.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, guys, so they could use the same. Yeah, I'm sorry, but they could use the same idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: And do it. The governor of the state of Illinois could call out the National Guard. It doesn't have to be President Trump. Go ahead, Fred. You had something.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, speaking of these mayors, Brandon Johnson of Chicago, Myshel Wu of Boston, Karen Bass of Los Angeles. Yeah, have a listen to what they're saying about this cut number four.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We are rejecting the occupation by the.

>> Alex McFarland: Military of our cities that's actually fighting for our democracy. That's what's required in this moment. When we fight back against tyranny, the people united will always prevail.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stop attacking our cities to hide your administration's failures. We will not back away from our community. That has made us the safest major city in the country. We need the National Guard to assist us and prepare for fire season. Not for an inappropriate development, inappropriate deployment where they are just guarding a building that is not under attack.

Chicago reported 573 homicides in 2020 for the most of any US city

>> Fred Jackson: It was really interesting. Governor Pritzer of, Illinois, he led, I use the word led reporters on a little tour of certain areas of Chicago yesterday. And he said, look, there's hardly any crime here.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're kidding.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Follow me, follow me. Here in this little area here, they didn't have any carjackings. However, the city reported 573 homicides in 2020 for the most of any US city that year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that just people who got shot and killed are knifed to death. But that doesn't include all the, what do you call casualty or people who were injured? Gang violence. And.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, let me, let me just say that that kind of, that kind of, thinking reminds me when my daughter was a little girl and this is the first time this had ever happened. So she did not understand that parents aren't fooled. She's supposed to clean up her room and I. And then she came to get me. And I walked in and her room was pristine, not a toy in sight. And I walked over to the closet and opened the door. And that's where everything was stashed.

>> Tim Wildmon: It all fell out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And on cartoons, everything would fall out. And that is what I think of when you have a. The mayor of Chicago leading the media around to show. See, no crime over here. Well, where's the closet? Where, where's all this stuff stashed? Because a lot of people are suffering because of crime in this city. Oh, my.

>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, good. Well, good for the mayor of Washington D.C. i'm shocked. Ah, yeah, me too. Have a press confere. And she's lauding the efforts of the National Guard that President Trump has put in Washington D.C. our federal city.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me just say one last thing about if, if the deployment of the National Guard to bolster the MPD, okay. Metropolitan Police Department in Washington D.C. is leading to this kind of decrease in crime, then what you were doing before is not working.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You're going to have to change what you're doing, which is probably to bolster the numbers of people in the mpd. It's putting criminals away when they commit crime, not releasing them back on the street and not letting them get away with having a rap sheet, 13 or 14 crimes along.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't think, despite the comments there from the mayors of Chicago, Boston and Los Angeles, President, Trump's not going to send the National Guard into those cities. as Abe said yesterday, Abraham Hamilton iii, he doesn't have the constitutional authority to do so. Not unless the mayor, invite mayor, or the governor of the state said, Mr. President, help us for some particular reason, you know, a national disaster, I mean, a natural disaster or some kind, or, you know, some kind of riots going on, and they need, they need help for a particular moment in time. But, so he's not going to do that now. Does President Trump troll? Yes, he's master. He's a master troller.

>> Ed Vitagliano: King of troll.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's a king of trolls. So he'll say something that he doesn't intend to do just to have these, people. I don't, I don't agree with doing that, by the way, as president states, but especially with. That's the way he, that's the way.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He rolls, like making Canada the 51st state. I'm not just saying that because Fred's here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, but Trump will say something like, like he went after the governor of Menace of Illinois for not taking crime seriously in Chicago. And then he adds, and he also needs to go to the gym. Yeah, like that fat boy needs to, needs to step back, needs to eat a salad and he's the governor. So you get into that kind of spit fat when you get in, when you. Trump, you got to take. It's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I like that. Spitz bat.

>> Tim Wildmon: Spitz bat, yeah. And then he, then. Then the governor of, of, of Illinois says, oh, yeah, that's a pot calling the kettle black, so to speak. That's what. He didn't say exactly that. But anyway, so with Trump, that's what you get, man. You just get,

>> Ed Vitagliano: But this is. But this, what he's done in D.C. is a home run. And it, like, like we've been saying, it's. It's a temporary fix. And when these troops go home, law, I guess Law and order will return to its prior level.

>> Tim Wildmon: What I've learned is basically with Trump, I think we've all learned this by now, and he can't be president again. So he really care. He never did care, but he never did really care. But he doesn't care. He. He couldn't care less.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Than he does right now about how he's talks or he's interpreted. But, with. With Trump, his policies, you cheer for.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: The vast majority of the time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sometimes he'll. But his childish antics, which come out every few days, you just go, what. What do you. You don't need to talk to Rosie o'. Donnell. Okay.

American Family Race Radio Network president is unique individual

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: anyway, we all know that's how it goes, so, a, unique individual, to say the least, as serving as president.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Race Radio Network. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.