Today's Issues features Christian response to the issues of the day
>> Ed Vitagliano: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tim Wildmon, as the announcer just told you. Joining me in studios, Ed, Vitagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Good morning to you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: we hope everybody had a nice weekend. Got a lot to talk about. Obviously that's happening in our country and in our world. we, But we did have football. I know. Raise your hand. I know nobody did, but I stayed up for the end, of the Bills. The Buffalo Bills and the, and the Buff and the Baltimore Ravens.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I did not. But you were talking about it this morning at lunch. Today I'm going to watch the highlights because it sounded like an amazing.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a. There's probably a moral to the story. That is the Baltimore Ravens led the whole game until the last play of the game.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There is a moral.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah. Is that don't give up. There's no justice in the world.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It doesn't matter how well you run it unless you finish the race.
>> Tim Wildmon: Finished. That's a good moral to that story. Anyway, I was, as people know, I enjoy watching football and so I'll watch anybody play almost. But that game was incredible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And, you were talking about how several times you almost said, well, to bed.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if you're a sports fan and you're watching a game and the game appears to be over and you don't really care. I mean, you. So it's over by, by that, I mean, one team is clearly going to win.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So there's no more drama, no more suspense, no more, let's see what, how this thing ends. So I was like, I was like five seconds away from clicking the TV off.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I said no, because neither of these teams were yours.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Right. I didn't care who won.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You didn't have a dog.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve Tyber from Eight Days of Hope. He is, an idol worshiper, of the Baltimore. Of the Buffalo Bills. And he needs prayer for that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now. hey, now listen, that's. That accusation is a two edged sword, Tim. Well, let's just talk about this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they want a game at the end of the regulation anyway. It was a, if you like college football and pro football is a fun.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know what? I, you know what I Like about football season is it's, it goes hand in hand with fall.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. And so relief from the heat.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Relief from the heat. And. And can I do a little segue here? Because we have our fall Share a Thon coming up next.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, we do, Ed. And what do we need from our listeners?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, we need listene stories. So we're gathering stories now to play during our fall Share a Thon, which, I think is October, 8, 9, and 10. 7, 8, 9. Okay. 7, 8, 9.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I had that October, like a month from now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: October. Yep. And so, here's the question we ask our listeners.
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>> Tim Wildmon: For a lot of people, please do this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We'll play. Play these.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would ask people, please do this if afr ah, has made a difference in your spiritual life or whatever you want to say about it. We love hearing those testimonies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And playing those. All you need to do is say, hey, this is, Joe from, you know, I don't know, from Macon, Georgia. And I just want to say AFR has, and then tell the brief story. That's what. That's the kind of stuff we're looking for. Right, Right. Okay. What's the phone number? 2. And so you call this phone number. You just leave that message. True.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. What's the phone?
>> Ed Vitagliano: There'll be, I'm sure, a little probably brief explanation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Here's the number to call. 8778-768893-87787-68893 is our listener Storyline. Call and share for a minute or two, and you might hear yourself during. Share a thon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Fred.
Senator Tim Kaine expresses concern that rights come from God, not government
>> Fred Jackson: All right. Well, one of the reasons people listen to American Family Radio and we hear it on those testimonies that you're talking about all the time, is that they get news that the other mainstream media do not want to deal with. And we, we give priority to what we believe is important news for our Christian audience. I say all that to lead into a story that hasn't been getting much coverage but is important to us. You might remember back in 2012, Democratic convention in Tampa, Florida, there was a debate on the floor whether to include God.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: In their party constitution. Ed, you remember how that went?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. The delegates booed. The idea of putting God, of putting mentioning God in the, It was the platform, platform, platform discussion.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, move forward to this year, 2025, with 13 years. All right. What you may not have heard, there was an interesting exchange last week. the scene was a committee, a Senate committee, dealing with, the confirmation of, Wriley Barnes, a former U.S. state Department official who has been nominated to serve as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. During Barnes presentation, he quoted Secretary, of State Marco Rubio that emphasized the US Was founded on the principle that all men are created equal because our rights come from God, our Creator, not from our laws, not from our governments. End quote. Tim Kaine, Democrat. Senator Tim Kaine from Virginia, former governor. Former governor, is part of that committee. He was very upset that Mr. Barnes quoted Senator Marco Rubio as saying our rights are laws, come from God. What you're going to hear is Senator Tim Kaine expressing his concern that people who say about our rights come from God. And then you're going to hear the response from Senator Ted Cruz, who also sits on that committee.
>> Speaker D: Mr. Barnes, I was struck by your. Your, opening comments, and I asked to get a copy of them so I could read them and make sure I quoted them correctly. You state, and this is a quote from Secretary Rubio, our rights come from God, our Creator, not from our laws, not from our governments. I find that very, very troubling. I'm a devout person. I was a missionary in Honduras. We've got other devout folks in this room. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, American. The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't come from the government that come from the Creator. That's what the Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that bases its rule on Shia law and targets Sunnis. Baha' is Jews, Christians, and other religious minorities. And they do it because they believe that they understand what natural rights are from their Creator. So the statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mr. Barnes, I'd actually like to go back to the exchange you had with Senator Kaine, and I wish Senator Kaine was still here. Senator Kaine and I were elected together 13 years ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: He.
>> Steve Jordahl: He is a friend. I would actually encourage observers to go back and listen to what Senator Kaine said, because I have to say it, I think was disturbing and showed much of where today's Democrat Party has gone wrong. So Senator Kaine said in this hearing that he found it a radical and dangerous notion that you would say our rights came from God and not from government. I just walked into the hearing as he was saying that, and I almost fell out of my chair. because that radical and dangerous notion, in his words, is literally the founding principle upon which the United States of America was created. And if you do not believe me, and you made reference to this, Mr. Barnes, then you can believe perhaps the most prominent Virginian, to ever serve, Thomas Jefferson, who wrote in the Declaration of Independence, we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their Creator, not by government, not by the Democratic National Committee, but by God with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I have to say, it is stunning to me that the principle that God has given us natural rights is now deemed by Democrats some radical and dangerous notion. Mr. Jefferson was right when he wrote those words. Government exists to protect those rights. But slavery was not okay when US Law allowed it. It was wrong then.
>> Tim Wildmon: It.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is wrong now. It is always wrong.
>> Fred Jackson: There you have, it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, by the way, Abraham Lincoln, who won the presidency in part, in his, because of his hostility towards slavery. The Republican Party itself was founded a few years before. Lincoln won the presidency in 1860 on the basis of an abolitionist platform. We got to get rid of slavery. By the way, it was also established, the Republican Party, against, polygamy, those two things. and. And Abraham Lincoln, for the time he was leading this country during the Civil War, based his arguments against slavery on this statement in the Declaration of Independence. You can. This is very easy to find for Senator Kaine, if he was at all interested to find out that the. Exactly as Senator Cruz is saying. The battle against slavery and the overturning of laws that supported Slavery was based on the principles of the Declaration of Independence. and let me tell you, Senator Kaine ought to be ashamed of himself. He's not. But the Democratic Party, to Ted Cruz's point, has become an anti God party. This is over the last 50 years or so to the point where they believe the government is the one who gives you the rights. Well, as has been popularly said for decades now, and probably since the founding, if the government gives you your rights, the government can take away your rights. And we saw that for four years under Joe Biden as president. We have another story we'll deal with later on in the program if we can get to it in terms of what the Trump administration is finding out in terms of anti Christian bigotry within the Biden administration. Listen, as Tim has said, this is our culture war in this country is at its heart a war about God. And the Democratic Party hates them and they're doing everything they can to try to scrub out the biblical principles under girding this country. And if God has mercy on our nation, they will fail utterly.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Senator, Kane, who by the way was Hillary, Clinton's VP, running mate. Yeah, that's true in 2016. So he's very, very well established leader in the Democrat Party, and former governors, you said, of Virginia. But of all people, him from Virginia should know better than to say what he said. He's conflating issues, I think probably intentionally so, there by saying, hey, this is like a theocracy right in the Middle East. That's what you're proposing. Talking to the, talking to the witness there who was a fellow who was testifying.
>> Fred Jackson: He was, it was Barnes and he's the nominee for a position in government.
>> Tim Wildmon: So this was a. Yeah, a hearing about his, yes, nomination.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So, Keynes intentionally trying to scare people by saying, hey, these, this just Republican, nominee here. This, these people are for a theocracy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, can I, can I also add to this discussion, the fact that Senator Kaine wanted to point out what Islam believes and what they do in Islamic countries.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is kind of to the point because the liberties we enjoy in this country throughout the west are because of Christianity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
Senator Tim Kaine compared Christian liberty to that of Islamic regimes
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not because of Islam, not because of Buddhism or Hinduism.
>> Tim Wildmon: Point.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So he, in a, in a strange backhanded way.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: strengthen the argument that you cannot have liberty in Western countries without Christianity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now that does not mean that we tell everyone they have to be baptized.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you Got to convert from Islam. In fact, the religious liberty we enjoy in this country is precisely because the founders believed that the right to conscience and the right to freedom of religion was a gift from God, and government should protect that.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Christianity allows, the Christianity you're referring to that influenced early American law and history and our founding fathers and so forth, that they cited the Christian religion often that allows for freedom for other religions.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: But if you go to an Islamic country, for example, you don't have the freedom for other religions, typically, because they, they just don't, don't. Don't allow for. They would consider that to be promoting, you know, false religions.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So forth. So if you want freedom and liberty, it's. You're going to get it from Christian.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Christian values.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: I agree. I was shocked that Senator Tim Kaine would compare the stand that Barnes is taking, Ted Cruz is taking to the Islamic regime in Iran, and he's likening.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What Jefferson said in writing the Declaration of Independence.
>> Fred Jackson: I know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Do you think he's ignorant, of this, or you think this is purposeful?
>> Fred Jackson: I think it's purposeful. Here's the reason. Not one Democrat, to the best of my knowledge, has condemned what Tim Kaine said last week.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, they believe it. Yeah, I'm convinced they believe it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That they use this to try to scare the general public. Okay. Sometimes it works. They want. They, they. I mean, the Democrats, not all of them, but a lot of them like Tim Kaine, they want to scare the general public into believing that the Republican Party, which is backed by a lot of people like, that are evangelical Christians or they want to impose their religion, that being, they would say, I'm talking about, Christians on the rest of America. So that we do want. The reason they say this is, yes, the people like, afa, they. An afar. They do want, forced baptisms and, you know, Christianity or that's what. That's what they want to scare the general public into believing about people like us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me do just a little commercial here, folks. I'm going to make a statement here what Senator Tim Kaine said in articulating his hostility towards the Christian faith and his hostility towards the Declaration of Independence and our founders, is part and parcel now a part of the progressive movement in this country. So here's what I meant by commercial. If you go to resources.afa.net, that is where you can get all kinds of great resources that we provide, that God has given us the opportunity to, you know, to create videos and, CDs and DVDs and written material. If you go to resources afa.net and search for the word progressive. All right, now, I say it's a commercial because this is something I did, I don't know, 10 years ago. A booklet. It's not that long. It was taken from a series of six articles, I think, that I wrote for the, for the Stand magazine, our monthly magazine. And then we also follow that up with a DVD on the same material. It is called the Progressive Threat to the American Republic. Okay, so just go to resources.aca.net and search under the word progressive. And I, I don't, I don't know. I think you, I forget how much. It doesn't cost much at all, for both the booklet and the dvd. folks, this, I did a lot of research on this. Abe Hamilton has done a lot of research on it. You hear, him talk about these kinds of things quite a bit on his program. You would be shocked. All right, $7.50. Okay. I mean, we're talking. This is very reasonably priced. You would be shocked at what the progressive movement has said in its early formative years about the founders, about our republic, and about God. And you need to get, you need to get armed, for the truth. You can actually pick up the, the pamphlets, I don't know, whatever, five or six at a time. They come bundled for a very reasonable price. But go to resources.aca.net resources.afa.net and search for progressive. But this, this kind of ideology is either going to destroy America or it's going to destroy the Democratic Party. One or the other. Because they are all in. You remember. I'm, sorry, I get fired up about this. President Obama talking about the, conservatives in this country. They cling to God and guns. Yes, their Bibles.
>> Fred Jackson: I think he said, yes, the Bible.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cling to their Bibles. This is the mentality, of the now completely secular, anti founders, anti God, Democratic Party.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, to your, to your point, Ed, last week, the Task Force to Eradicate Anti Christian Bias. This was something that was set up by President Trump shortly after coming back into office. And it was headed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, Fox News reported. They said they got a peek at this report last week, and it outlines examples of what the Biden administration did to Christians. For example, Christians praying outside abortion clinics, arrested.
Fred Whitaker: Several examples of Justice Department fines against Christian colleges
All right. And several other examples we reported on the fines the Biden Justice Department leveled against Liberty University. $14 million Grand Canyon University, $37.7 million. And of course, you know, since especially the Grand Canyon University fine that was totally dropped last week because they did nothing wrong. Those are just two examples of this report. What is it about Christians and what is it about the Democratic Party that they're now fighting any laws against, shipping the abortion pills across state lines? Why are they so in on men playing in girls sports?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Why are they drifting and not just drifting now, speeding towards socialism? Oh, yes, we're probably going to have a socialist or communist mayor of New York City. It's because communism is antithetical to and hostile to God.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, we're going to deal with that story because, Mamdani and Bernie Sanders were out on the weekend talking about this. Folks, you're going to want to listen to this. Talking about universal medical care, socialized medicine, all of these things. Government run grocery stores.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if you guys even need me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I'm sorry. I should have. I should have let the president have a say. I get fired up on this issue. Really shocking, isn't it?
>> Tim Wildmon: You had it. Well, monotone. You're so monitor.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Anyway, no, I just have everything you just said, Fred, and Fred said. I just say amen too. And All right, we'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.
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American Family Radio Network is welcoming roving retirees to visit our studios
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr and I'm Tim with Ed and Fred and we have a gallery, from the Inglemar Baptist Church. Right. And Inglemar Baptist Church. And we have a bunch of folks visiting with us. I don't think any of them are employed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You say I look retired, huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a bunch of seniors visiting us here. and we love for folks to come and visit us here. The Inglemar Mississippi Baptist Church is, is visiting us with their, with their roving retirees. Right, that's what they call themselves, the roving retirees. So anyway, welcome to those folks. And if you want to visit us here in our studios, if you're if you're local or if you're traveling from around the country, we have folks come in from all over the country who are traveling and want to stop and see our offices and our building and our studios and meet some of our staff. We welcome that. All you need to do is go. we have a lottery and so you need to go. You have to enter like 20 bucks, something like that. And you put your name like if.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You'Re going elk hunting in Wyoming or something. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta get your name.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I'm kidding. How do they, how do they. If we do want to know if folks are coming by, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely. So you go to afa.net afa.net and you look at the little list of drop down menus at the top. Yeah, go to where it says more and a little drop down menu, will pop up and you go down to visits and you got to fill out a little form. We just got to make sure you're not running from the law. And so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or if you are, we just want to know about it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, we do. Yeah, so just go to afa.net afa.net more and then the drop down menu has visits and we'll get you started. Another reason is too, we want to make sure there's people here, sometimes on you know, Friday afternoons for example. Might not be a lot of folks here. If you want to meet some of the people who are regularly on the air, you want to come at a time of the day and of the week when some of those folks will be available.
Some Palestinian terrorists attacked people waiting for a bus in Jerusalem this morning
>> Tim Wildmon: Did have an incident in a terrorist attack in Jerusalem this morning.
>> Fred Jackson: That is correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: This morning our time.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. some Palestinian terrorists who to be exact attacked people who are waiting for a bus. They were at A bus stop there in Jerusalem.
>> Tim Wildmon: Public bus.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And, they opened fire and six, people died. several people were injured. if you've been to Jerusalem, you've been to Israel, you know that it is not uncommon for people on the street to have guns. I'm talking about Jewish people who live there. And two people who were witness to this drew their guns and they took out the bad guys right away.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. If you're in the military, active, active military, you carry your weapon with you all the time in Israel.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: For them to do that. but yeah, that, that took place at a, again, a public bus, stop this morning in Jerusalem. you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. What's your next story, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, Zorin Mumdani.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who?
>> Fred Jackson: Zorin, Mom, Donnie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, if you don't know who that is, I think you're going to very shortly because he is on the Democratic ticket to be the next mayor of New York. And if you believe all the polls, he is still way out in front. And so likely within a couple of months the election there, will be occurring in November. he will likely be the next mayor. To say that he is a far left, a socialist is not an exaggeration. Self declared. Self declared. Well, he and his good friend Senator Bernie Sanders, who is officially an independent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But he's really a radical Democrat, a self identified socialist.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. he, Bernie Sanders and mom Donnie held a rally, this weekend. Here's a little bit of what they had to say. Cut five together.
>> Speaker F: We will freeze the make buses fast and deliver universal. We will freeze the make buses fast and deliver universal. They were afraid of Mr. Mamdani becoming an example to what can happen all over this country.
>> Fred Jackson: Now if you couldn't hear. The crowd responded as Mamdani was cheering them on. They talked about universal medical care, free buses. Now, they didn't mention grocery stores, but we've all.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Were they talking about freezing? What?
>> Tim Wildmon: Free buses.
>> Fred Jackson: Free buses.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So, yeah, the, the government's going to give you everything and you know, just.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just hand it to you to free those buses. You know what I'm saying? That's what he was, that's what they were chanting.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Free the buses.
>> Tim Wildmon: what he's talking about there is public, transit, I think.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so you have to pay a fee to ride the, metro, well, the subway or the public buses. I think he's talking about. No, people need to get an out, use them free. everything he's talking about that free medical care. Wouldn't that be nice?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: everything these people, by these people, I mean these, these socialists talk about by socialism. I'm talking about these folks like him who think everything needs to be, you know, paid for by the tax. By the. By taxes, yes. Free social.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So it's not really free.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not really free. It's just that it's paid for by taxation. And taxation is, you know, they're going to hit people who make money. Right, right. So it's going to be interesting to see because how many millionaires and, or how many people that, that are going to be hit with these heavy taxes when this guy gets in to be the mayor of New York City. How many are they going to leave the city.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't know, there used to be some kind of, maybe I'm dreaming this, some kind of rules where even if you left a place to escape high taxation retroactive, like a year or two or three, you could still be hit with taxes. in other words, you, they know what you're trying to do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: By getting out of Dodge before the heavy taxes hit and they can go back on you. Bay meaning like the city of New York, for example, in and tax. You read, as if you still live there. I've heard that.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, Gavin Newsom has talked about that. You know, you have so many people leaving California right now. Yes, we're going to go after them.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to go after they made.
>> Fred Jackson: Their company, made their money here. We're going to go after them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, what you got going on in New York, course New York's always been liberal. New York's always been Democrat. Well, I say always. They've been Democrat for the most part. You did have Rudolph Giuliani, you did have Michael Bloomberg. These were people who were mayors of the city of New York who were also Republicans, but it's very rare. they're basically a Democrat run city.
Tim Ferriss: The mayor's office will only be elected by New York City proper
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, but what you have is, the people that are supporting the. Oh, you also have to consider this. We're talking New, York City proper here, which is still, I don't know how many people, 5 million, something like that. Proper. You have the greater New York area, which is going to be. You're going to run into, probably 12 to 20 million people and you start talking about the greater New York area. So. But the mayor's office will only be elected by the citizens of New York City proper.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, 8M8 and a half million that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are New York City proper.
>> Ed Vitagliano: New York City proper.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you got What? You got 18 million that are. If you type in greater. Greater New York metropolitan area population. I know that's a lot, of English there. But anyway, these people are very Liberal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And.
>> Tim Wildmon: And,
>> Ed Vitagliano: 20 million.
>> Tim Wildmon: 20 million. Okay, I said 18. So it wouldn't surprise me if they vote this guy. They really believe that you can offer free groceries. And they. And you know what? I say go for it. you know, they need. If these. If these people really believe this is the best way to go to tax everybody to pay for all this stuff.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You can't give all this, this is a good news, bad news thing, Tim. You can give all this stuff free to people. That's. That's the good news. The bad news is, as British. Former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher famously said, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
>> Fred Jackson: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you can give all this free stuff away.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's also soft on crime guy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. But all that quote unquote, free stuff is coming from taxes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And eventually the well runs dry. And now you've made a bunch of people reliant on. On free stuff. And then what happens when the well runs dry?
>> Tim Wildmon: Ever heard the expression, you can't tell those people nothing? Ever heard that? That's not good English, but it expresses absolutely the idea. And so, you know, let them go for it. the people in Chicago, they don't care that they got crime. I'm talking about the majority of citizens of Chicago don't care that. That they got violent crime running wild. They just want to vote for the next guy who is soft on crime. So I don't know what you. I don't know what you do for people like that who, who don't care about their own self interest.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You can't do anything for them. The book of Proverbs makes it clear that there are people who operate according to wisdom and there are people who are foolish. And I don't know how people in Chicago, for example, continue to vote. They voted out. Who was they? They vote out one lefty.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. What was her name?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I, It'll come to me. Something. Foot.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was life.
>> Fred Jackson: Was her footed Both.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lightfoot. Was it Lightfoot?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Lori Lightfoot. I think that was her name. Lori Lightfoot.
Fred Kaplan: I find it hard to understand why Democratic leaders are not supporting candidate
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Once upon a time, there was a mayor named Lori Lightfoot. She lived in Chicago, and they voted.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lori Lightfoot. Yeah. We got the thumbs up. Creely, our producer, they voted her out, and then they voted someone even more liberal.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So sad.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, yeah, how do you feel sorry for people like that? You know, you go, you're voting against your own self interest, but you. But I guess they don't. But they don't care. They don't care. So what do you. So, that's when they care.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When they get carjacked. But up to that point, they don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well.
>> Fred Jackson: And the larger question now is, which is why Bernie Sanders is there with, Mamdani. Bernie Sanders.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bernie Sanders. Walk, by the way. Is this a walk?
>> Fred Jackson: No, it wasn't a march. No, there was a rally of some kind.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: All right. Now, Bernie Sanders, we can laugh at him sometimes, and we call him, you know, the radical leftist. But Bernie Sanders really believes this is not about just New York. This is about the whole Democratic Party.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is a movement.
>> Fred Jackson: This is a movement. Cut six.
>> Speaker F: Now, apropos that question, I find it hard to understand how the major Democratic leaders in New York state are not supporting the Democratic candidate. One might think. One might think that if, a candidate starting at 2% in the polls, gets 50,000 volunteers, creates enormous excitement, gets young people involved in the political process, gets non traditional voters to vote, Democratic leaders will be jumping up and down. This is our guy. So we got another fight on our hands, and that is the future of the Democratic Party.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, after. After listening to Bernie Sanders, though, I just. One thing I'd like to say is I don't want to hear people ever make fun of Southern accents again. I can hardly understand this fellow here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And listen, he odd. I'm just gonna say he is a complete hypocrite, Bernie Sanders, because he had an opportunity in the. During the primary season, of 2020, leading up to the 2020 election. Yeah, he had an opportunity to take the Democratic Party in a socialist direction, stand up for his values, but instead he allowed himself to be bought off by the Democratic Party establishment when he dropped out and got behind Joe Biden.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. The establishment.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The establishment. So I don't want to hear from. Well, I mean, I have no choice. We just played them. But I don't want to hear from Bernie Sanders about the Democratic Party, you know, sticking to its principles and going with the guy. Everything he just said about Mamdani was true about Bernie Sanders in 2020.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Remember, he had all these young people, and all the, you know, this, this movement, and he allowed himself to be bought Off.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, next story. Fred, what's your next story?
President Trump is poised to send in ICE agents to deal with illegal immigrants
>> Fred Jackson: All right, well, meanwhile, meanwhile, President.
>> Tim Wildmon: Trump in Gotham City.
>> Fred Jackson: City, meanwhile, is Chicago Gotham, kind of like Gotham?
>> Ed Vitagliano: New York.
>> Tim Wildmon: New York, Gotham City, Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was the model for Gotham City.
>> Fred Jackson: I think they're in the fight, though, for each other. Chicago, who can be go further to the left. And Trump is a favorite target of those leftists. And, but he's talking about now, you know, we've heard from the mayor of Chicago, Johnson, and we've heard from the governor of Illinois. They don't want Donald Trump to send soldiers into Chicago to deal with the crime. By the way, six murders in Chicago this past weekend and about a dozen other people wounded.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, probably a light weekend.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. But the governor and the mayor say everything's okay, we got everything under control. But Trump now, like, he did in Los Angeles back about a month or so ago, is poised apparently to send in ICE agents to deal with illegals because Trump believes, and rightly so, that many illegal immigrants are part of the crime problem. Here's cut number one of Trump talking about immigration in Chicago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We're not going to war. We're going to clean up our cities. We're going to clean them up so they don't kill five people every weekend. That's not war, that's common sense.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, Tom Holman, his border czar, who is taking, on the fight of dealing with the millions of illegals in this country, he says much the same thing. Yeah, we're going to go into Chicago like we have gone into other cities to deal with a number of illegal immigrants. Cut number two, should we expect action.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, in Chicago this week? Absolutely. You can expect action in most sanctuary cities across the country. We're going to war with the criminal cartels. We're going to war with illegal aliens, public safety threats that raped children, that raped, citizens that, committed armed robberies, that, distribute narcotics that kill Americans.
>> Fred Jackson: So there you have it. we're probably going to have a confrontation. There was a huge demonstration against Trump sending in any soldiers slash ICE agents. Huge, ah, demonstration on the weekend, but I think it's coming. There's going to be a confrontation.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and there, these are two different things. And the, the left and the media to some extent are conflating these two things. And those two things are the National Guard on the one hand or ICE agents on the other, looking for people in these sanctuary cities who are here illegally. There is still, there are still constitutional other legal questions about President Trump's authority to send in the National Guard without any, ask on the part of, a governor of a state or the mayor of a city. That's still kind of up in the air as to what the president can do, but he's absolutely on legal ground to send in ice, and, and a mayor of a city or a governor have absolutely nothing to say about that. If there are people breaking federal law, ICE has the legal right, constitutional right to go into these cities. So those are two kind of separate issues. but the left tries to conflate them to make it look like ice is the military coming in to these cities. It's not. These are duly authorized federal, agents. It's like the FBI. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio.
Fred Pennington: Why do violent criminals get put back on the streets
speaking of soft on crime cities, which are almost all the big cities, with very few exceptions because they all vote Democrat and Democrats are soft on crime. Did you guys see the, the, the video? it's hard to even talk about. There's a video, Remember the story about.
>> Fred Jackson: a few weeks ago, August 22nd.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, August 22nd, three. So two, three weeks ago, there was a story out of Charlotte, North Carolina, and there was a young Ukrainian girl who was, on a bus, public bus, I think, and she was, attacked, by a guy, and he, he murdered her with a, with it. Like a pocket knife.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you remember seeing this story?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, I, I, this, over the weekend. You're talking about the video that was released?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, the video.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now that was recent though, right? The release of the video?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, like yesterday.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, it's horrific to watch. They don't show the actual murder on that video, but they do have that on, video, because it was a camera on the bus. But the guy who killed her, murdered her, was like, had been in and out of jail, like, 14 times. Fred, do you have the, do you have his rap sheet there in front of you?
>> Fred Jackson: I don't have his rap sheet, but you're right. He has been in and out of the, the legal system 14 times.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you see the video? You know what I'm talking about?
>> Fred Jackson: I saw the video, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, because this young lady, as it turns out, was a Ukrainian. Was she an immigrant or was she.
>> Fred Jackson: just fled to this country?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: To get, to get away from the violence in Ukraine because of the war? Yes. She was on this transit, I think if they have a transit train there in Charlotte. She was, I think, just got off work. She was sitting in front of this guy. She was looking at her cell phone, going through, Scrolling through her cell phone.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's another issue I want to talk about, but go ahead.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, the guy is sitting behind her. He just gets up and he proceeds to kill this young woman. He has been in and out of the legal system.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I've got his rap sheet here. This is, the Carlos Brown man who's accused. we do say accused, but he's on video. He's on video, doing this heinous act. records obtained by the New York Post showed that Brown has a history of arrests going back more than a decade, including charges of felony larceny, robbery with a dangerous weapon, and communicating threats. So he's got a long. Got a long.
>> Tim Wildmon: My question to you, Ed, is, I don't know if there's an answer to this or not, or approvable answer to this, but. And we all read about this in our newspapers and see it on our local TV channels, this is not necessarily, just a blue state problem. And that is, why do these violent criminals get put back on the. Out on the streets so easily? I mean, this guy right here who murdered this girl, he had 14 arrests. Isn't that what you just said? Now, I don't know what they all were for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. I've heard the number. 14. This is what I saw was more than a decade, including charges of felony larceny, robbery with a dangerous weapon, communicating threats. I don't. I don't know the number. You may have seen that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Actually, I think I did see 14 arrest. I did see that. So this happens all the time. and you just, you just go. Why are these people out back on the street? This. Now this young lady's dead. Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna answer that question. And then Fred has, something that people are saying in defending this guy, if you can believe it. but, what's. What seems to be happening in these big cities is they blame society for producing the criminals. They have lenient district attorneys, many of whom have been elected in recent election cycles, funded by George Soros, who wants to, bypass Congress and make quote, unquote changes on the local level. So these are district attorneys who will not charge people. Ah. Or go for maximum sentences. They are frequently go for maximum sentences, yes. On people who are arrested.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you mean they will not go.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They will not. The district attorneys will not.
>> Fred Jackson: Who?
>> Tim Wildmon: They're supposed to be representing the public and prosecuting the crime. You're saying they don't care.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They, they think the criminals are actually the victims of this.
>> Tim Wildmon: The box guarding the chicken coop.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, and then you've got maybe judges who are not giving long sentences. They go, these, people, even when they're convicted, a lot of times they get a seven year sentence, but they're released after a year.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Why is that? That's what I want to know the answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is, it is the soft on crime ideology of the left that governs these blue cities, but it even happens in red states.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is it?
Two teens are charged with murdering an intern in Washington D.C.
I'm, I'm just saying. I read the Tupelo, Mississippi News and I see the same type thing where I'm going like, this guy, kill this person and he's been arrested 17 times and you're going like, how is he out of prison? How's he out of jail? That's my question.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the philosophy seems to be. And, and in this case in Charlotte, there was actually a GoFundMe account set up not for the girl, but for the guy who's now charged.
>> Tim Wildmon: Carlos, Brown.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, there was a GoFundMe. Now fortunately, GoFundMe has taken this down.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. But speak to the mentality of the people who were giving to this GoFundMe.
>> Fred Jackson: Because they called him a victim.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: He's a victim of the system. And that's to your point, what do.
>> Tim Wildmon: They mean by that?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, somehow, here's the scenario.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Tell me the thinking.
>> Fred Jackson: They grew up in poverty and they didn't have the brakes that other people had.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that turned them to a life of crime.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, that turned them to drugs. See, it's not his fault. He turned to drugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Turned.
>> Fred Jackson: Because grew up poor, broken family, all that sort. So the perpetrator of the crime becomes the victim. Same thing happened on Friday. Jeanine Pirro, who is now the U.S. district attorney in D.C. they announced the arrest of two kids who've already. Yes. Broken other laws.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two kids in Washington D.C. in Washington.
>> Fred Jackson: D.C. for the murder of that intern.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: In the summer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: She calls them thugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Because immediately the media started to say, well, these kids are victims. You can't treat them like adults. She said, no, I'm charging them with murder.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they're 17 year olds. And people are defending them, saying they should not be charged as adults.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But Pirro thankfully saying, no, that's old enough to know better.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're going to be charged as adults.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're going to take a timeout right here.
>> Tim Wildmon: We will be back in five minutes with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. M the views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
>> Ed Vitagliano: M.
