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Dr. Jessica Peck prescribes Hope for Healthy Families on American Family Radio

Hello, and welcome to the Dr. Nurse Mama show, prescribing Hope for healthy Families. Here on American Family Radio. Here's your host, professor, pediatric nurse practitioner. And mom of four, Dr. Jessica Peck.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, hey there, friends, and welcome to my favorite time of the afternoon, getting to spend time with you, prescribing Hope for Healthy Families.

Today we have a guest who shares her testimony through a season of struggle

And listen, in today's world, you may feel defeated, you may feel like you are fighting some battles, like you are having some struggles, that it just seems like it's one step forward and two steps back. And you think, when is this going to feel better? Is this ever going to feel better? Well, today we have a guest who is going to share her testimony with you and what she learned through a season of struggle. Her book is called Arise, Shine and Conquer. If you're watching on video, I'm holding it up. This is such a beautiful little book. It would make such a great gift for someone in your life who you know is fighting some battles. And I have been in that season, I think everyone has been in that season where you just feel like you're fighting something. And I can't imagine what it would feel like to have someone come and say, hey, I see that you're fighting some battles. I just wanted to give you a little encouragement and put this little book in that woman's hands. I think that would be such a piece of encouragement.

Myshel Wilkins shares how faith has been the foundation of her life

Today I'm talking to Myshel Wilkins, and too often we say that we believe in God's goodness, but when we are faced with those trials or tragedy, our faith is put to the test and we may feel tempted to give up, to walk away from God. And Myshel Wilkins is here to share that her story, how faith has been the foundation of her life. Now she is the daughter of a Ghanaian mother and a missionary father, and she grew up leading churches, leading worship in churches around the world. But she has had some personal heartaches. She has had seasons of struggle, years of infertility, eight painful miscarriages. But these things propelled her to know God's strength and his goodness in a deeper way. She has toured as a vocalist with top Christian artists including Mandisa, TobyMac Matthew West, Don Moen, and was mentored by gospel legend CeCe Winans. My regular listeners know my affection for CeCe Winans. I love her music, but she has struggled. But she believes that this profound grief or loss reveal our true character and beliefs. And she's got this message of a arise, Shine and conquer, sharing true stories of pain and perseverance and break through. I know already Some of you are thinking, this is me, at least that first part. And I want that last part to be me. And so, Myshel it is just such a privilege to welcome you. Thank you so much for joining us today.

>> Myshel Wilkins: Oh, it's my joy to be here. Thank you for the invitation.

Myshel shares her story about becoming pregnant and facing difficult times

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, I've given some little, peeks at your testimony, some little sneak peeks here and looking at what you have been through. And it is. I always say this, Mychelle. It's not like someone comes on and says, oh, God gave me this message of a rise, shine and conquer. Because, you know, I've just done this so well, and it hasn't been difficult at all. It always seems to come through a season of struggle or pain, and you are no stranger to that. So tell us about your journey that led you to this point of being here today to give us this message of encouragement and hope.

>> Myshel Wilkins: Yeah. We got the wonderful news that we were pregnant. And we told our pastors, who were Pastor Cece Winans and her husband at the time. We told our few friends and family members. And, because I had been touring for so long, we waited to have a child. And so the time came. I'm pregnant. Was so excited. Got to hear the heartbeat. We're just thrilled. I can't believe there's a human being growing inside of me. And then several weeks later, we go back and we hear that there's no longer a heartbeat. And I remember feeling incredibly numb. My husband collapses on my chest. He starts weeping. He's like, please check again. The nurse says, I'm so sorry, sweetheart. There's no change. We get in the car and, the radio is showing that the song that's playing is called Count It All Joy. Now it's turned all the way down, so I can't hear the song. But those words were just literally coming at me. And I remember feeling a swelling of frustration, anger, what is happening right now? And I felt the pit opening up. I felt the accusations that God wasn't good. How could he allow this? You know, I thought he wouldn't withhold any good thing from you. Like, I. And some of these things actually felt like, well, yeah, that makes sense, right? And I knew, though, that if I jumped in that pit, if I allow those. The anger and shame and guilt to comfort me in a way or to surround me, I didn't know who I would become, and I didn't know how long I would be in that pit. And so when I read Count It All Joy, I felt like God was Inviting me to say, would you like to find out what that means in this moment? And so all of it is hard. Let me just say that when you're sitting in hard, nothing is easy. I know we like to look for the easy way out, but there's no easy way out in this kind of situation. And so it was hard to decide to do it, God's way as well. Okay, let me just make that very clear. But in that moment, it wasn't an emotional decision. It had to be in this moment. I know the right thing to do. Holy Spirit, help me to make the right decision in this moment. And so I decided to try it God's way. Okay, show me who you are in this moment. In this moment, I have to make the decision, is he good? Is he who he says he is in this moment? Because based on that answer that I come up with, I'm going to respond to God from that place. Am I going to trust him when it doesn't make sense? I don't like what it feels like? Am I just going to say, God, I'm clinging to you with all of my heart, mind and soul. I surrender the opportunity to understand this moment. I surrender the opportunity for you to give me an answer as to why I'm going through this. I lift it before you, Lord. what do I know but that you are God. And I just literally had to say, I don't know. I can't fix it. I can't make it right. But you can. You promised. All things can work together for my good. I don't know how that's possible. But that's not my business. The how isn't my business. Your word is yous word. Let's go. And so the only thing I knew to do was to begin to worship God. I'm a worshiper. I didn't know what else to do. So I just started humming. And my husband looks at me and says, are you humming? And I said, honey, I'm fighting for my life right now. Yes, I'm humming. And I began to hum, you are good. In the middle of a moment where I could have declared that he wasn't good. You are good. You are good. You are good. Then it opened up to words. I began to sing songs to the Lord. And that was a turning point for me when I said I could stare at what I feel.

Myshel: I felt like my life depended on keeping my eyes focused on God

I could stare at, why this is not right. Or I could stare into the face of God. I could stare into his face and be determined not to look to the left or to the right. I felt like my life, my purpose in life, the reason why God said I should exist in the world depended upon me keeping my eyes focused on the Lord. because I knew in that moment the enemy likes to hitchhike on the back of our grief. That was the door by which he wants to enter, to completely cause me to self protect, go and retreat into a comfort zone where I will never use my faith for anything big ever again, just in case God disappoints me. And in that way the enemy steals and I abort my full blown mission in Christ. Because listen, there's no way you can be who God's called you to be or, do what he's called you to do if you reserve your faith. It takes faith, full blown faith to partner with God, to step out when things don't make sense, to look into the impossible and say, with God all things are possible. And then God opens up the fullness of what he called you to do and be in the earth. Without faith, it's impossible. So if through this tragedy I reserve my faith to protect myself, there's no way, and the enemy wins in that way. And I just couldn't let that happen.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: My goodness, Myshel I've got, I've literally got tears in my eyes because that is a word, let me tell you. I need that word today. And I know so many people listening need that too. And there's so many things about what you said that just really resonate deeply with me. But one of the first things that stands out is, you know, since the beginning of this year of 2025, we've been walking through, leading our listeners through 52 Habits for Healthy families. And the first, the first habit is prayer, talking to go and then memorizing scripture. And I heard you say, quote words, count it all joy. That's from James chapter one. I heard you say, no good thing, will you withhold. That's from Psalm 84:11. And it strikes me the importance of hiding God's Word in our heart before we hit these hard times. Because that is the truth. And the truth of God's Word can come over us. And then you having music playing in your car, that, that was one of the first four habits that we had. And looking at how God uses that to give word to us in a way, that is, that is pleasing to us in a way that makes our, our hearts and our minds respond in a physiologic way as well. And so having all of those things There I just see that moment, you know, God's word just coming over you. And you know, you mentioned Cece Winans before, as did I. And I remember a similar moment that I had when I was going through some really tough things and hearing her song, the Goodness of God, and hearing those words, all my life you have been faithful and thinking, you know, I'm singing this without even thinking, but do, I really believe that? Do I really believe that all my life? Because I can look back and think of some really tough things that I've been through. But no, God is still good. And so hearing you say that and give your testimony, it's so powerful. My shell. And when we look at some of those things, just like you said, I love how you gave us that picture. A hitchhiker, like he wants to hitchhike on the back of our grief. And he starts to whisper lies in our ears. The enemy does. And they're very subtle, very crafty. And we have a world that's filled with those conflicting messages. You can find an echo chamber to echo all of those lies that will tell, that the world will tell you about God. How do we clearly discern our God given identity and reject those lies we've been told and kick that hitchhiker off the back of our grief?

>> Myshel Wilkins: Listen, you know, freedom and truth feels like something, it sounds like something, it releases something. And when you're acquainted with God's word and his principles and his ways, you know, when something comes across your heart and mind, if it is God, right. You know, because the fruit of it brings peace, or it brings a deeper love or a dependence on the Lord, or it causes you to pull back, question, feel like, wait a minute, maybe I need to take care of myself. Maybe God's not going to come the, way I hope he would come. And the timing that I expect him to come. Now you're starting to take control. Whatever that word produces in your heart and spirit, that is a telltale sign, whether it is God's word or the enemy planting a seed. And so when I decided that I wasn't going to let this unanswered, why God become a wall between me and the Lord, because that's what the enemy was hoping it would do. I realized in that moment that either the enemy's going to torment me with all these demonic suggestions about how God isn't all that, or maybe it's my fault, or maybe I should be ashamed. You know, fear, shame, accusations, all of those yucky things, that he wanted to Overwhelm me with. When I realized that he could either, completely, overwhelm me with these things and bring such torment to me, or I could torment him by lifting my hands in a moment that doesn't make sense. When it makes sense for me to question God and begin to worship the King of kings and the Lord of Lords and declare his goodness in this moment, that would torment him. Okay. The Bible talks about David. When he lost his child. What did he do? He got up, went to the temple and worshiped the Lord. I know that there's something powerful that happens. And I believe that heaven responds when we decide to grab a hold of God. When our natural instinct would be to pull away and accuse. But when we say, papa, I'm not going anywhere, I don't understand. I don't get it. But guess what? I promise you, you are mine and I am yours, and I'm not going anywhere. I don't understand it, but I'm clinging to you. Because the alternative. I can't even, imagine falling into that place. Because I don't know who I would become and how long I'd be there. I don't want that. I don't want to be bound by the opportunities to just be bitter and angry and sit in church. Still go to church, still serve in the church, still do all go to the women's conferences. You know, you can't tell that. In my heart, I've taken several steps back from the Lord. I still show up, but the Lord sees. And at the end of the day, I just can't let him rob me. Like hurt and be robbed. No, no, no. If you gotta hurt, if you gotta go through, by all means, arise from that thing. Bigger, better, stronger in the Lord. More anointed, more equipped to help others through this situation. Because that's how God says all things are going to work together for your good. And the Lord gets to shine his light and his and his power upon those who are saying, how in the world did you get through that? And then you can testify of God's power. That's what the enemy wants to rob you of.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: that's. That's right. Myshel I. Myshel I hate to break in because you are just delivering such good truths, but we're up against our first break. Listen, do not go away. There is so much more for us to talk about. When we come back, we'll talk about how forgiveness is a big part of this journey. Don't go back. Don't go away. We'll be right back. Because of listeners like you. PreBorn helped to rescue over 67,000 babies. Your $28 to sponsor one ultrasound doubled a baby's chance at life. Your tax- deductible gift saves lives. Please join us in this life saving mission. To donate go to preborn.com/AFR. will you take a moment and celebrate life with me?

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>> Royal Roar by Myshel Wilkins : We be honest? Do we really believe that? He says just look around us. Us. Can you see what's happening? So su put you on my own. We're not fighting flesh and blood. The D has come.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: Welcome back friends. That is royal roar by none other than Myshel Wilkins. And guess what? That's who we're talking to today. So she is delivering a word. Let me tell you, she is bringing some truth in her speech and in her song. She is talking about a message today that I know some of you really need to hear and that some of you would include me. It's called Arise, shine and conquer. 40 days of courage for women. I'm holding it in my hands if you're watching it on video. It is a beautiful book that talks about personal stories and the truth of scripture and how we can overcome the struggles that we have had. And arise, shine and conquer. Even when it feels like maybe that's the last thing that we're capable of doing. My shell has shared her testimony of loss of fertility, infertility of miscarriage, and how God has spoken truth to her. In the middle of that, she is sharing her testimony. She has been all over the world with people who are singing, who are believing, who are bringing a message of God's truth.

You hid your self centeredness behind prayer and actions

And we were talking, Myshel about before the break, about how you can say those words, but saying those and what we appear on the outside can be different in what we look at on the inside. And you really have been blessed with an incredible gift of music. And you have toured and you said, these are your words. You hid your self centeredness behind prayer and actions. And you were just starting to talk about that. How did God reveal that to you? How do you have the courage to talk about it? And how are you using that message and that lesson to help others recognize if they are in the same struggle?

>> Myshel Wilkins: You know, growing up, my dad was a very busy guy and he was helping so many people. And as a young girl, because my dad was traveling a lot, I was a daddy's girl. And somewhere along the way, I found out that I had this insecurity, like I needed something that I wasn't getting affirmation of who I was. And I'm saying this because this is the root of, where my insecurities came. And so I had a gift to sing. And the Lord began to place me on platforms and stages and places where I could sing. And I ended up touring with these wonderful people that you mentioned. But that insecurity was still there. And so the applause of 5,000 people, the ability to get on a tour, bus or get on a flight and live this life that I thought was so amazing in my mind it was connected to my identity, my value and my worth. And so in my heart of hearts, I wanted to become a Christian star. But I didn't say that out loud. What I would say is, God, send me to the nations. Because that's the way you're supposed to say it, right? Send me to the nations. But the reality was I was asking God to make me famous on, his name, period, point blank. That's what it was. And so one day, while I'm in the middle of having this moment of saying this noble sounding prayer, send m me to the nations. God, I want to do this and do that for you. The Lord made it very clear. It hit me like a ton of bricks. He said, you want the people to love you. But you have no intentions on loving them back. I don't need another superstar. I need you to love the people I put you in front of. When you write a song, it's not so that you have the hottest hit on the radio. It's because I want to hit them bullseye in the heart and deliver the aha moments of the, answers to the questions that they're grappling with. This is why I've given you the gift. It's not for you to become a star. It's for you to be a servant. That you would release my love and my heartbeat to those who I, put you in front of. And it wrecked me like I can't even begin. To that day. I have never cried that hard in my life. But it was God's correction that was sweet. It allowed me to finally see it unfolded in front of me. Follow the rope to where that insecurity came from, right? And asking the Holy Spirit to unpack it. Let's walk through it. Don't hide it. Don't avoid it. Let's look deeply into it so that God can bring a healing. Because I wanted the Lord to take this wrecking ball and break down the walls I had erect. I was afraid of people, you know, hurting me because I had felt like I had been so hurt from those close to me. You can't have your arms open and protect yourself at the same time. That's why God said, I'll take care of it. Vengeance belongs to me. I'll take care of those who mean you evil or don't mean you well. But you keep your arms open in love and let me love people through your life. And so that fear had to be confronted. I had to be honest with that fear. And the Lord began to do a work. And that's when I met, the opportunity to work for Pastor cece. When she became my, mentor, I decided I started going to her church. But I sat in the back. I wasn't trying to be on any platform or stage. I just sat in the back very quietly, and just wanted to hide, basically because I had come from another church, and there was a moral failure, and it was very painful, and I wasn't ready to do all the things. So I sat in the back, and somebody watched me. I can't help it. I can't turn it off. I have administrative gift. So when I saw needs, I would step up and say, hey, you know, can I help? And what can I do? I was on payroll. Nobody was paying attention. I didn't think someone saw me do that and asked me to be on staff. There was only four people on staff, so it was very small, intimate circle. And I said no at first because I had been hurt by finding out some moral failures of another ministry. And I didn't want to know what was going on behind the curtain at this ministry. So no matter who she was, I said no. Finally, after praying, my husband talking to me, and then there was a supernatural thing that happened. Somebody reached out to me and said, I had a dream about you. I had a dream that you turned down something because you didn't see how God was going to bless you through it. but God is trying to answer your prayer. You see, when you get in the trenches with people, instead of being the superstar, going from city to city and being completely detached from people, but now you're going to roll your sleeves up and get in the trenches with people. God wants to break your heart so that you would love people. Break that wall rather, so that you learn to love people, but you can't love them from afar. You got to get in the trenches with them. And then I called them back, and I said, okay, I'll do it through my teeth, through fear. But I said, I'll do it. And y'. All. I was going to court with people. I was praying with people. The yucky messes of life, people going through really hard things. I was caring deeply about marriages that were falling apart. I was going to hospitals and praying for people. Like, I was meeting with women. Women, were coming to my house every Wednesday for Bible study.

You talk about forgiveness being a really important part of this ministry

I was getting in the trenches with people, and Lord was showing me how to love people. And then he was training me. He was answering my prayer. Break down my walls, Lord. I don't want to be that selfish person. I want to do this thing right. I don't want to count myself out. I don't want to get in the way with my selfish heart, of what I know you want to do in my life. And so I surrendered. It was hard. I didn't like it. It was tough. It was ugly. Very uncomfortable. Oh, my gosh. But I submitted to the process. And after three years, that's. That was my process of the Lord working on my heart.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: It's amazing just to hear you talk about the Lord speaking to you and just having that communication with him, knowing your father's voice and thinking of. Of God telling us, his children who he loves. He discipline, accepting that discipline as, ah, as love from the Lord. And when you are getting in the trenches with people, Myshel you see the humanity of people just like you were describing. And people hurt people, and especially hurt people hurt people. And you talk about forgiveness being a really important part of this journey. And I'm sure at some point you have to forgive yourself even for the sin that you have in your own life. You have to forgive other people for the thing, the ways that they hurt you. What have you found about forgiveness in part of your journey and why it's so essential to your walk with the Lord.

>> Myshel Wilkins: You have to be a well oiled machine of forgiveness. You have to be, because when the offenses come, and they will, they have the power, if you allow it, to stop you and get you stuck from forward progression. Forward progression in the Lord and in what God has called you, you, you can never give the enemy that kind of power. You just can't. I see it from that lens. When an offense comes, I ask, what have you come to take from me? What have you come to steal? Because that's what he loves to do, steal, kill and destroy. And one of the ways he gets you is that offense. And so he finds a hook where he can hang his hat on, where he can get a grip, ahold of us. And so when I realized that this is one of your tactics. Tactics, right. Yes. Sometimes people do the craziest stuff and they say the most insensitive things, right? absolutely. And they're not right in what they've done, whether intentionally or, unintentionally. Sometimes those things hurt and it's hard. But what I do is I take that offense because I've definitely had them. And I say, lord, this hurt me. This is difficult and this is hard. But I know that it also has the potential to, to stop me in my tracks or to cause me to get stuck. And I don't have time for that. So Lord, help me. I forgive this person. They owe me nothing. Whether they ever say I'm sorry or not. Lord, I lift this before you. The words that they spoke, I lift it before you. God, I want to be cleansed of this, washed of this, and get back on track and get busy back doing what you've called me to do. I don't want this to be distraction that just holds me down. And so I forgive. I forgive. And if it tries to come back, and I not only ask that God would help me to forgive, but also to heal the pain it caused in my heart. Sometimes we just want to forgive, but because that pain is still there, we think we haven't forgiven. And so we're struggling with this whole forgiveness thing. Lord, I desire to forgive. I am willing to forgive as you have commanded. And also I pray that you would begin to heal the wound that this thing, this offense has caused. In my heart, I want full freedom in this thing. and it was very important that that was. That's something that is a consistent thing in a believer's heart, especially when you work in ministry.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: You know, it's so much easier said than done. But such great perspective, Myshel when you think about the enemy does come to steal, kill and destroy, and steal is first. And thinking about him stealing something, when you've experienced an offense, you know, we can all think about what that person has taken from us, whether they have taken our trust. But then you think about the enemy is right there, want to steal more. And what is he going to steal in that situation? Our joy, our trust, our faith, our sense of peace, our sense of contentment. If we don't. If we don't forgive, then the enemy continues to steal those things from us, and we start to feel resentment. We start to feel separated from God, because then we start our own sin. And that's a really tough thing to say. But you've been really transparent in sharing your own journey with that. And I know, I've experienced that myself too. And I think, think there's a lot of people out there thinking, I just want to know God's will for my life. And when these disruptions happen, when these trials happen, when the pain happens, we think there's no way that this could be God's will for my life.

Myshel talks about forgiveness being an important part of journey in infertility

How is it God's will that you would suffer so much pregnancy loss like you have? How is it God's will that you suffer so much trauma that, you know, we look at things that are happening in the news, and yet you talk about forgiveness being an important part of journey in that. And again, Myshel you are quoting so much scripture in that, like, even the thief has come to steal, kill and destroy. But I have come that you may have life and live it more abundantly. Not just a mediocre life, but more abundantly. How do you see all of these things tying together forgiveness to knowing God's word, to knowing what God's will is, and going back to no good thing will he withhold from those who walk uprightly. How is that all tied together? And all through your Christian life, Myshel continue to give us some more wisdom. I just feel like, again, you're bringing a word and I am here writing Every word down.

>> Myshel Wilkins: I am passionate about being exactly who God called me to be and doing exactly what he called me to do. I'm passionate about it. That's like I absolutely have to be that and do that. And nothing in this world. Listen to me. Nothing in this world can stop that. Whether it be me not getting the desire of my heart. I can't make that bigger than me fulfilling who God has called me to be. Be. I can't. Cause I can't allow that. If I don't get what I want from the Lord, no matter how wonderful it is that now I somehow retreat and now I can't seem to connect with the source of my life and now I just forfeit and abort so many things. The enemy rejoices in that. He loves that. That's the whole premise by which he comes to kill and still destroy. I can't handle that. Like that's a, that's a non negotiable for me, me. So when I look at life, the hard stuff, even the great things, that can be a distraction as well. When you're on a mountaintop as well as in the valley low. I look at this thing with this big perspective. I see, I, see there's a time where I will breathe my last breath. And when I breathe my last breath, will the Lord say, well done enemy. Tried to throw so many things your way. Life threw so many things your way. What did you do with the words that I spoke over your life? Did you believe me? What did you do with the weapons that I made available to you? The word of God? Worship, a humble heart, forgiveness, all these wonderful things that ensure victory. Did you lay them on the table and make excuses? But, but my parents didn't do this. Or this person hurt me or what about this? What did you do with what I gave you? Did you use what I gave you? Did you arm yourself with the power of the Holy Spirit? Did you pull out your sword and fight with fire in your eyes when the enemy came, came in like a flood? Or did you lay down and say, well Lord, you know why. And well, whatever your will is, you didn't exercise your faith and say, I'm going to stand on this and dare to believe God. What did you do? And when I stand before God, I want to say, I left nothing on the table. Everything you gave me, I used it with all of my heart and trust in you. Every word that you spoke, I believed you. Even when it didn't make sense, even when it didn't look like what you were saying could be possible. Your word is what I clung to. Is he gonna say, well done, or is he gonna say, oh, here's your storehouse. Here's the things I couldn't give you because you refused to believe me. I couldn't bear it. I couldn't bear that when I get to heaven, I want my storehouse to be emptied. Everything he desired to arm me and equip me with in this world, I used it to the fullness and the glory of God. That matters to me. So when it came to infertility, when it came to traumatic situations and circumstances, I look at them as this is a mountain with God we will overcome.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: I'm built over. Amen. Look at the message of your book. Arise, shine and conquer. Myshel you are living that testimony out before us with such authenticity and such hope. Listen, we have got a lot more to talk about. Don't go away. I'll be right back with more.

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>> Buddy Smith Jeff Chamblee: We live in a day when America's families are under attack like, like never before. Buddy Smith, Senior Vice president of the American Family Association. The war against biblical principles rages on numerous fronts. The Internet, Hollywood, Washington, D.C. america's corporate boardrooms, and the list goes on. At American Family association, we're committed to standing against the enemies of God, the enemies of your family, and we recognize impossible task without God's favor and your partnership. Thank you for being faithful to pray for this ministry, to give financially and to respond to our calls for activism. What you do on the home front is crucial to what we do on the battlefront. We praise God for your faithfulness and may he give us many victories in the battles ahead as we work together to restore our nation's biblical foundations.

>> If I Got Jesus by Ben Fuller and Megan Danielle: I've had a dollar to my name I've had friends that walked away and I've even lost myself a time or. Two. There were bridges crossed and burned But through all the wreckage I had have learned there is one thing that I can never lose. If I got. Jesus I've got all that I could ever need Take the world away from me and I'll be okay if I got Jesus and there's a hope that's living deep inside A joy that I could never hide In a safe place to fall if I got Jesus I.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: Got it all welcome back, friends. That song is if I Got Jesus by Ben Fuller and Megan Danielle. And those are easy words to say, but are those words that you can say to the today that if you got Jesus, you've got everything that you need this world tries to capture our heart and attention and tells us that we need more, that we should treat ourselves, that we need this, that our life isn't going to be fulfilled unless this happens or we have this affirmation from the world. Those are all such lies.

Myshel Wilkins writes a book called Arise, Shine and Conquer

And today I'm having a powerful conversation with Myshel Wilkins, who wrote a book coming from her testimony called Arise, shine and conquer. 40 days of courage for women now. 40 days. When you look in the Bible, God uses 40 days as a period of testing, as a period of preparation for something great, for a breakthrough. If you know someone, if you are someone who is going through something and you're thinking, where is God in all of this? I encourage you to get a copy of this resource. Arise, Shine and Conquer. Put it in your own hands, put it in the hands of someone you know who is going through something and help them to go on a 40 day journey where they can seek the Lord. Myshel has been sharing her testimony, her loss of, pregnancy and just things that she has gone through, her own walk with the Lord, things that God has taught her, lessons that he has given her. Let me read to you from her book. She says this, in order to live in our true identity, we must believe God's declaration over our lives, you are his and he has redeemed you. You. Unfortunately, the reality is that this world is filled with deception that presents itself as glorious truth, but will only set us on a path that leads to destruction. The world bombards us with lies about our worth, our purpose, our capabilities. Yet 2nd Corinthians 10:5 urges us to take captive every thought, to make it obedient to Christ. This involves discerning the lies, replacing them with the truth of God's word and living them out daily. How do we do that? This with daily reading these words can transform your thinking and ultimately your entire life. My show.

How do we remain faithful and trust God when times seem so hard

I think that there's a lot of times in those seasons of hardship where it's just tough to sense God's presence or purpose and we certainly cannot do that outside of his word. How do we remain faithful and trust his plan even when times seem so hard and we're bombarded with those lies from the world, how do we tune those out and turn our attention to God who created the heavens and the earth? How do we turn to him for help in those times of trouble?

>> Myshel Wilkins: Isn't it interesting that sometimes the very thing that we need, we don't actually want it in that moment, let's just be honest. So when we are brokenhearted or Going through. The last thing we feel like doing is sitting with the Lord or worshiping God. Right? The very tools, the simple things, we tend to reject. Right? But it's the very thing that can actually bring us what we need. And so people will say, yeah, I prayed, or, you know, whatever, but what else can I do? And I think that that shows that there's something that we're not quite. We're not quite getting. It's not complicated. You know, when we're sitting in the middle of hard, we all, you know, we tend to look for what's the easiest way out. How can I alleviate this pain? How can I get out of this situation? How can I no longer feel what I'm feeling? But sometimes that's actually not the way this works. Works. You're sitting in the middle of hard. You got to make the. The right decision. You can sit in the middle of hard and make the wrong decision. That brings forth more pain, bitterness, all the things. But you can sit in the middle of hard and decide, I am going to allow God to overwhelm me in this moment. Not my emotions, not what I feel. Feel what you feel. We grieve because we loved. I'm not diminishing the reality of our emotions. All right, Take those emotions, take those feelings and go into a room. Let's make this practical. Go into a room. This is what I do. This is what I did. Sit in the middle of the floor, throw your cell phone out the door. No interruptions. And you just simply say, I'm here and I've come for an exchange. And then you remind him of his word. This is what I told him. You said I can come for an exchange. My burdens are incredibly heavy right now. You said yours is light. Light. God. I've come for an exchange. I need you to show me. Holy Spirit. Speak. How do I do this literally? I'm having some trouble trusting you in this moment. Be honest, y'. All. He knows. Be absolutely honest. I'm having some problems trusting you in this moment. I'm terrified in this moment. But I know that I don't need to be. You said don't be afraid so many times in the word of God because you know that we tend to be afraid. You know, fear is that thing that gets us. I don't want that to overwhelm me. I don't want that to lose, get me lost, far from you. So let's work through this. I'm afraid, and I don't want to be afraid. Here's My heart. This is what I'm afraid of. And say it out loud. Hear yourself say it. I'm afraid of so and so passing away. I'm afraid of not having enough money. Say it. Break it down. Sometimes we make it so big, and we don't break it down, and we just walk away with this big feeling. But when you break it down, you begin to dissect it and allow the Holy Spirit to show you. See, right here is the issue right here. This person is. You know what? That person made me feel insecure. Right? Elizabeth made me feel insecure. Is it Elizabeth's fault? Or is it the fact that there's something that makes me insecure? Why did I feel that way? God, let's follow the rope to why I felt the way I felt. Let's open it up. So what I do with the Lord as I go and I allow him to have surgery with the feelings that I feel. Holy Spirit, break it open. Show me my fault in this. Show me. Show me where I need. Correction, please. I'm here. Wash over me with your truth. And you don't leave that room until there's a moment where you feel. Ah. God, I thank you, God. I love you, God. You're amazing. God. Your revelation, your correction is sweet. Listen, he's not going to withhold that from you because most people don't want to do that. So if you come to the Lord and say, let's break this open, he is going to help you. And even if he says, I'm going to send you to a Christian counselor, that's going to help you, give you the tools to open that up, he does that, too. However, the strategy, whatever the heaven strategy is for you to open that thing up, go and have that conversation with him as many times as you need to with your pad and pen to receive the instructions, Pray over it. Like, come on, get in there and massage. Let the Holy Spirit work that thing out with you, or he'll bring someone else to walk you through that. But if we don't take the time to sit with the Lord and ask him, what do you want to do? How do you want to do it? I'm game for whatever your plan is. Then how can that be possible? We pray these big prayers. God, just bless it. God, just cover it. God, just heal it. That's great. But I think the Lord wants us to see. He, wants to invite us into the mystery, and he wants us more than anything to see how deeply he loves us while walking us through some of the Toughest things. So I like bite sized pieces. All right? I wanna, I wanna have some understanding. And so I believe the Lord loves that, when we go and just sit with him and invite him to be so intricately involved in every detail of our lives, he loves that.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: You know, Myshel I think one of the things that's really coming across to me is you speak with such boldness and with such authority and with such confidence. And I think a lot of times when we go before the Lord, we are kind of like what you were talking about earlier. We can be petulant, we can be whiny, we can be angry, we complaining. But we can also be very timid and very weak. And how do you get to that point where you pray with boldness, with authority, even though the outcome is not like you wanted it to be, and you're still struggling, you're sitting in that struggle. Where does this boldness and authority come from?

>> Myshel Wilkins: I know who I am. I know who I am. And I know that the God that I serve, nothing, nothing is impossible. I believe that with every fiber of my being. And I'm comfortable with going into his refrigerator. Let me explain. If you came over to my house, you would be very polite, you would sit down, you want to be proper, all the things. You would never just go in my refrigerator, just grab an apple and just start chewing it. Just talking to me. Right? Right. Well, I know I'm a daughter. I'm not an employee of God. I'm a daughter of God. So my posture is, papa, I'm coming to have some time with you, and I'll go in his refrigerator and I'll eat an apple because I'm comfortable, right? I'm welcomed. I'm part of the family. I'm his. And so when I go through something, it's not like, well, Lord, you know, it's okay, Papa, let's work through this. I know you love me more than I could ever even begin to describe or even begin to fathom. Your love for me is overwhelming. And because of that love, anything you allow is for my good. I don't have to understand that. I won't let my brain get in the way of the fact that whatever you allow, you're doing something. I don't know what it is, but all I do know is that my time on this earth, I may have maybe 80 years, maybe 90 years on this earth. And then I get to be with you for eternity. In this 90 years, in this 80 years, in this 100 years, you're going to allow certain things to happen. You're also going to equip me as I go through them with you, to help other people, to display your power to do the things you've called me to do. You're going to allow me to steward human beings, children. They're not mine. They're yours. I get to steward them. I get to grow them up in the fear of the Lord. And then I come be with you. You keep walk with them. you're going to allow me to do wonderful things for your glory. And as I finish the work you've given me, then I get to be with the greatest love and I get to be with you. I don't hold this world so tightly. You know what I mean? Like, I just don't. I get to do wonderful things with the Lord. I get to do hard things with God. I get to do wonderful, exciting things with God. And I want to pass every time test. And then I get to see his sweet face. And, that's it. That's how I see. I know that may seem like, okay, that just seems so strange. But that's my understanding. He's equipped me as his daughter. I know who I am. And every situation I look for the power Moment. What is it that you want to do? What is it that I'm supposed to learn? How can I give you praise in the midst of this very difficult moment? Moment. How can I declare your worthiness in this difficult moment? Because something happens when you do that. Heaven responds when you lift up your voice in the midst of something. Where most people would say, I would be so angry or so confused. How could he do that? It doesn't make sense. Why would he allow them to listen? I don't have the answer to that.

Myshel Wilkins: God invites us to worship him through his Word

So because I don't have the answer, I'm going to sit here and worship God. Because he knows the beginning and the end. I only know this moment. Moment. I give it to Him.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: It's so true. Because his ways are higher than our ways. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. And Myshel I think about a quote that I heard when I was a teenager that I really go back to really often. And it said, if God was small enough to be understood, he wouldn't be big enough to be worshiped. I don't want a God that is so small that I can understand and neatly categorize all of his actions and predict everything that he's going to do and think that my wisdom is better than his wisdom. So, okay, God, clear. Clearly you don't Know what you're doing here. This is how this needs to go. My human understanding is so finite. And I love that analogy you gave of a storehouse of all of the blessings that he wants to give, because that's in his scripture too, that God loves to give good gifts for his children. And every good gift comes down from the Father of Lights. I mean, I think about this, and again, the analogy you thought about going into his house and going into his refrigerator like, I'm a daughter. I am here, here. He loves me, and he invites us into that kind of relationship with him. I think that's really the takeaway here. And all of this is predicated on knowing who God is through his Word and then who we are, who God says that we are. Because I think in this world, we are so pressured to come up with our own image, crafting with our own identity, crafting who we are, what our life should be like. And we are writing this human here. But you have just invited us to arise from that narrative, to arise from those lies, to shine through those and to conquer those. Because we know from Romans 8 that not only has the Lord made us conquerors, but more than conquerors. We are more than conquerors.

>> Myshel Wilkins: More.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: More than that. So, Myshel I could talk to you for a long time, but we are at the end of our time together. Tell our listeners how to find you, how to find more, how to pick up a copy of this blessing for themselves or someone else.

>> Myshel Wilkins: Absolutely. so you can get it on Amazon, you can get it at Barnes and Noble online, select stores in Walmart as well as walmart.com and so that's where you can get the book. And I love meeting new people, so I'd love for you to come visit me on Instagram. And that's Myshel It sounds the way it's spelled. M Y S H E L Music. One word. Myshel music on Instagram. And myshel Wilkins on Facebook And myshelwilkins.com is my website. I'd love to meet you.

>> Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, and we've already had such a beautiful preview of your music and the inspiration that you have provided. You are inviting others to step boldly into your victory in Christ. I hope today. I know it has been very encouraging for me and, I'm sure it's been so encouraging for others. Share this program with someone who needs it. I just ask you to be bold and say, I feel like you need this word of encouragement. And as you do that, my friend, I pray that the Lord will bless you and keep you and make his face to shine upon you that he would be gracious to you and that he would give you peace in the midst of your struggle. And remind you that you are more than a conqueror in Christ. I'll see you right back here next time. The views and opinions expressed in this.

>> Jeff Chamblee: Broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.