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Jenna Ellis: Rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator

 : Jenna Ellis in the morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: I love talking about the things of God. Because of truth and the biblical worldview, the U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect. The rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time.

 : This is Jenna Ellis in the morning.

U.S. supreme court rules against California's secret gender transition regime

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is Wednesday, March 4, and this U.S. supreme Court has delivered a historic groundbreaking victory for parental rights. A dismantling California's secret gender transition regime. This is the headline coming from a press release from the Thomas Moore Society. You'll remember that that organization is also the group of attorneys, that represented Pastor John MacArthur and Grace Community Community Church, does excellent pro bono work and in fact one of my co counsel, two of my co counsel, who were on that same case with Grace Community Church were on were counsel on this case as well. Ah, Paul Gianna and Jeffrey Tristle, really great attorney, special counsel for the Thomas More Society. And this is historic because it held that a secret gender transition policy in schools violate the religious liberty and due process rights of parents. So the ruling restores the class action injunction that the Thomas More Society had secured against the state of California for parents across the state who object to the state's directives requiring schools to conceal children's gender transitions from their own parents and facilitating those transitions without parental knowledge or consent and compel teachers to, to actively deceive families. So the landmark 6:3 decision, according to TMS, is the most significant parental rights ruling in a generation.

The U.S. supreme Court sided with California on transgender school policy

And so let's welcome in Corrie DeAngelis, who is now a fellow with the Heritage Foundation. Congratulations on that. Wears ah, so many other hats. also is a contributor, to a variety of publications and, and Corrie, you had posted a, a thread about this and you know this, this just seems so obvious that at least six of the justices agree that California schools and teachers shouldn't be keeping secrets from parents. But I think it's actually remarkable that three of the justices on the U.S. supreme Court actually sided with the state of California. I mean that's, that to me is is just as big of a headline.

 Corey DeAngelis : Right? That's exactly right. It should have been a unanimous decision. But you have the three usual suspects. One of them doesn't know what a woman is. ruled on the wrong side of history here and against parental Rights. And the, the initial federal court judge Roger Benitez got it right back in December 2025 when he said policies like this that keep parents in the dark create what he called a trifecta of harm. Obviously, it hurts the parents because they're kept in the dark and it infringes on their right to directly, direct the upbringing of their children. they won't be able to make the educational decisions or mental health decisions without all of this knowledge. But then it goes further than that. It infringes on the First Amendment rights of the teachers who might need to keep quiet and not tell the parents if they do want to tell the parents. And that could have, implications for their religious liberties as well if they don't buy into the transgender insanity and going by the students preferred pronouns. But then it also hurts the kids themselves, right? Because if they're at a very young age, they're impressionable, they don't really know what's going on yet. They are confused and, you know, maybe they're a tomboy. It's a girl that thinks she's a boy at the time. And then you have the heavy hand of the state putting their thumb on the scale and to try to tip the scales in favor of this transgender ideology. And what if that kid goes and gets a surgery and, or takes irreversible puberty, blockers? well, this, this is obviously going to hurt the child in the long term as well. There was just a case out of NewSong York that awarded $2 million in damages to a now 22 year old woman who was 16 at the time, who was pressured into transitioning from her psychologist and the surgeon obviously did the surgery. Those people were both held liable. You might say 2 million is just a start. but, you know, this was also in NewSong York and some organizations are backing off, medical associations and now saying, well, maybe we should wait until at least 19 years old to even think about, encouraging stuff like this where it can have irreversible, damaging effects on young children. So I will just say that, yes, it shouldn't have been a 6, 3, it should have been a 9, 0 decision. And parents need to be vigilant because just because the Supreme Court ruled on our side for now doesn't mean that, the teachers in all cases are not going to keep secrets from parents. So you still need to be actively engaged with your kids, ask them what's going on. Keep a watchful eye on the government school system, because, you know, there's going to be rogue actors that are still going to try to push this insanity on children.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so well said. I mean while this is an historic victory, this, and I think the tide is turning clearly. You mentioned that NewSong York case, that you know, even in NewSong York. Yeah, it's only 2 million, but at the same time coming from NewSong York, that's very significant. and yet we still absolutely need to be eternally vigilant because these three justices and then obviously the ninth Circuit that attempted initially to dismantle the class certification and saying basically that parents don't have standing. And thankfully the US Supreme Court, said no, we, you know, we reject that analysis. the fact that the Supreme Court is, is at least at this moment in time stepping in for logic and reason doesn't mean that everybody else in the country is suddenly following suit. I mean we still have judges in California, we still have legislators in California, we still have teachers in California that are making these kinds of decisions and thinking that it's okay, to gender transition minors. And you know, that's just, is mind boggling to me, Corrie, that even under, you know, any sort of rational analysis or objective concern for children, that this type of thing is, is in their view defensible at all.

 Corey DeAngelis : Yeah. First do no harm. And I will say in other Supreme Court cases that had to do with parental rights and school choice even there's been this ping pong going back and forth where we win at the Supreme Court. And then you know, you'll have ah, an activist judge in one of the states say, oh well, we're doing it a little differently and they try to split hairs and it's really frustrating. For example, in Montana we had a case go to the Supreme Court, because they were excluding religious schools from their private school choice program. It was a obvious, they were obviously violating the rights of religious families in schools out there by by, by excluding those schools. Well, the Supreme Court said, okay, you can, you don't have to have a school choice program, but if you do, you can't exclude the religious ones. Well then you went over to Maine and Maine said, well we're in our program, we're not excluding religious schools for being religious. We're excluding them for doing religious things, which is, you know, a distinction without a difference. And then just this past year we had a victory at the Supreme Court in the Mahmoud v. Taylor decision which allowed parents to opt their children out of gender ideology instruction. Huge one out of Montgomery County, Maryland. Well Then we just found out, a few weeks ago that there was a court in, I believe, Massachusetts, where they said, oh, well, this parent wanted to opt out for his kindergarten kid with this gender stuff. But, you know, our lesson wasn't gender ideology. This was gender identity. So it's a little bit different than what they ruled out of the Supreme Court. So that that parent, basically has to have their kids subjected to this gender insanity in kindergarten because the courts are playing games. But, at the end of the day, I think you're right that it's good news that the Supreme Court's at least weighing in on these issues and laying down the law. But it does concern me that we do have three judges who, just imagine if they were in the majority, you'd have our religious liberties trampled on, you'd have parental rights trampled on, and so on and so forth, where they just toe the party line instead of reading the Constitution.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And. And this is where, I'm very concerned for the future of the U.S. supreme Court. I mean, obviously, people have been saying from Trump's first term, at least, his most lasting legacy will be the three justices that he put on the Supreme Court. I think maybe, you know, two and a half. Amy Coney Barrett is a little bit split. she got it right on this one, and, you know, I think on some of these very obvious ones, but I wouldn't necessarily put her as a solid win. But, but at least, you know, that. That solidified, a few justices that are younger, but moving forward. I mean, President Trump has, you know, only three more years in office, a little under. And, we're looking at the potential aging out of Justices Alito and Thomas, in the short term. And there's been some talk, Corrie, about. I mean, you know, they're both, in my opinion, the most conservative, justices. And, you know, do they. Do they wait and see, you know, who's elected in 2028, or is this potentially a Ruth Bader Ginsburg situation? you know, or do they retire, and then who might President Trump pick? hopefully someone that's better, than Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, you know. You know, but, that's the analysis. I mean, it's. It's. It's really difficult when you kind of have to choose your oligarchs. Yeah.

 Corey DeAngelis : Ted Cruz. I just don't want to lose a senator from my home state of Texas is doing a good job, but. Yeah.

Jenna Ellis: Hey, Ron DeSantis is term limited. I think he'd be great, but you know.

 Corey DeAngelis : Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I think that's a good pick too. He can pick, two people. Yeah. So, yeah, I think, I think that would be a good idea because you're right, we want that legacy to have a much longer time on the Supreme Court. Yes, Justice Thomas is great, but, you got to think about the reality of the situation too.

Cory DeAngelis: School choice and parental rights are important issues

So at the end of the day, with all of these court cases going back and forth, I think this is also a good time to remind everybody why school choice is important as well. Because, you know, because the school districts are going to continue to play games and parents need to keep a watchful eye. Parents should continue to do that, but they should also have the ability to take their money to a school that's aligned with their values. That's not trying to play games that, that doesn't try to secretly transition their kids behind their back. And that doesn't. I'm not saying that all the private schools get it right either, but at least the parents will have an escape valve and then give the school districts a reason to listen to them if they go, complain. And instead of cutting off their mic and calling them domestic terrorists, at least the parents would have some leverage in the situation if they could take their money somewhere else.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And you raised such a great point, Corrie, that, you know, this is why the legislative, opportunities in the states really matter. Because if you didn't have some of this insane nonsense coming from states like California, we wouldn't need the U.S. supreme Court to intervene to begin with. I mean, the fact that you have states like California and especially Colorado, I mean, it seems like those two states most recently have had the most, you know, wild and absurd leftist nonsense come out of those states that, that go up to the Supreme Court, that have to be struck down. But if we had better overall legislators across the country, in these states, then we wouldn't have these cases of origin to begin with. And so that's why, you know, what you're advocating for, what a lot of conservatives are advocating for, to not just defend the insanity, but to actually go on the offensive and pass really good legislation that protect parental rights, school choice and education, all of these things, that's incredibly important as well.

 Corey DeAngelis : That's exactly right. And yeah, in Colorado they had a bill that labeled misgendering your child as child abuse. You could actually lose your kids if you don't buy into delusions of a three year old who wants to Wear a dress if he's a boy, for example. It's just that ultimately got ripped out of the bill. But that just goes you. The direct shows, goes to show you the direction that they're trying to go in some of these states. And I will say, just because you're in a red state doesn't mean everything's okay. There's undercover videos coming out of school districts where they're saying they're still doing critical race theory, just calling it something else. They're still doing the gender stuff, but they just try to hide behind closed doors. So parents, you can't just, you know, say, oh, everything's fine and dandy because I live in Texas or Florida. There's still issues going on in those states as well. And I just saw in South Dakota yesterday, their house, after it passed the Senate already, their house killed a parental bill of rights. Half of the Republicans voted with all the Democrats to kill a parental bill of rights in South Dakota, which, you know, sometimes in these deep red states, Democrats will run as Republicans. So you gotta be careful there too.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, Cory DeAngelis, we gotta leave it there. so much more to discuss. We'll have to have you on again soon, soon on, all of these issues. But, you know, it is important, even if you are in a red state, to remain vigilant and especially if you have, children in the state funded school system. Because you never know what, what's going on. And you should know what's going on and continue to be informed and ensure that, the teachers and the, especially the teachers unions aren't coming between you and your child. I mean, that's one of the things that this case reaffirmed, which is excellent, is, that substantive due process that's a landmark precedent for parental rights nationwide and that parents, not the state, hold the primary authority over the care, upbringing and education of children, including the right not to be shut out of participation in decisions regarding their children's mental health. So a good job again, Thomas More Society. Follow Cory DeAngelis on X. And we will be right back with more.

Jenna Ellis: What a night for Texas primaries last night

 : welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. And what a night across the country last night with, some of the GOP primaries, especially including the state of Texas. so Ken Paxton is forcing John Cornyn into a race runoff for the Republican Senate primary. And James Talarico on the Democrat side soundly defeated Jasmine Crockett. And Dan Crenshaw actually lost, his primary, which was a huge Upset. So, a number of things going on in the state of Texas. Let's welcome in Abraham George, who is the chairman of the Texas gop, and Abe, you know what, What a wild night for Texas.

Abarham George: Yeah, thank you, Janet. We expected some of this. Some, of this. We didn't, you know, a lot of the endorsements didn't mean much anymore. Things like that. People are doing their research, which is a great thing for Texas. So, you know, we expected some, some of these people to win and not all of them. So it's a, It's a different day in Texas, that's for sure. We got bundle runoffs.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. So, yeah.

John Cornyn and Ken Paxton face off in Texas Senate runoff next month

So, so let's talk first about Cornyn, versus Paxton. you know, where, how, how exactly did this land out? And you know, this is going to be upcoming, in just a couple of months that this, this runoff. And so, you know, where are those two positioned?

Abarham George: Well, Ken Paxton is sitting Attorney General. Even last night he was filing lawsuits on behalf of the people, which is in favor of Republican Party here in, Democrats Dallas, County Democrat Party decided they're going to go to court and get an extension for two more hours of, calling to be, open for two more hours. And Ken went to Supreme Court and got that shut down. So, you know, while he was getting ready for his watch party, he was doing that. and we have John Cornyn, who has been there for about, four. Actually this will be his fifth term if he went. So President Trump did not endorse in this race. Wesley Hunt was another candidate. So, forcing a sitting senior senator to, for a runoff in Texas is unheard of. But, you know, last time that happened was when Ted Cruz ran. And this is going to be an interesting one. I, think, Ken has a really good momentum. a lot of this will come down to who would be supported by the president. and the runoffs is different type of people who are going to show up to the polling location. Right. I mean, it's not your average primary. These are for the right. Most of the time and people who know what they're doing. So it's a whole different battle for them from now to the runoff day.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and that's a really good point that, you know, primaries, don't often don't have as much turnout as the general, obviously. But then in a runoff, I mean, that's asking the Republicans to come back to the polls and you know, vote basically again. And so, what, what do you anticipate, as the chair of the Texas gop, what do you anticipate in terms of the get out and vote momentum? Just to make sure that, you know, Texas Republicans have their say in something that, you know, as you mentioned, is such a, a historic event, like this runoff.

Abarham George: Right. So the, we expected about five or six runoff elections like at race, which is in the runoff. We also expected the come to race, we expected the agricultural, commissioners race. But those two races are not at the runoff anymore. So there's a lot less money coming in for just on TV ads and things like that. So what we are going to focus on, get as many people to the polls as possible. We're going to have a campaign for that. obviously the party does not take a position on one way or the other. Individual officers of the party are allowed to endorse and get behind candidates. But the party itself, the apparatus does not get involved in the basis itself. So we're, we're going to see, I mean John Conan's campaign spent about, about $100 million in the last this primary so far. And I was told by Ken Paxton's campaign Yesterday they spent 500,000. So they've been saving their money for the runoff. And Onena is one of the guys who can raise money. so it's going to be a battle of how many PBS are we going to see and how many mailers and all that good stuff.

Jenna Ellis: Wow.

Abarham George: The main goal will be. Yeah, main goal will be to get as many people to the polls as possible.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And yeah, and I think it's so fascinating, you know, to see how the difference between, you know, what traditional campaigning still looks like, you know, in 2026, like TV ads and mailers you mentioned, versus a social media. And it seems like, you know, kind of turning to the Democrat side, James Talarico really, rose in popularity and also just name ID through a lot of social media and interviews. I mean, and you know, in my opinion, of course, I think that his name ID rose in a bad way in the sense that literally everything that he says is just remarkably stupid and, and somebody that clearly you don't want to be representing the state of Texas or any state, in the U.S. senate. I mean he's, he's literally. My friend Greg Price posted a clip where he's literally suggesting that God is non binary. I mean, you know, the guy professes to have faith and then, you know, has a very odd definition of Whatever his faith is, it's definitely not biblical. But but it goes to the point that you know, some of this more traditional campaigning, absolutely still works. There's a ton of money that goes into it. But then some of these m, these newer ways and may traditional ways of social media, are on the rise, regardless of who wins the Republican nomination. You know, kind of fast forwarding to the general, how would either a Paxton or Cornyn sort of offset that with someone now like James Tallarico?

Abarham George: Well, I think the messaging from the Republican Party will be when a seminarian goes and tells everyone that God is non binary, which I still haven't figured out what that means.

Jenna Ellis: I don't think anybody knows.

Abarham George: Yeah, I don't think anybody does. So I think that's the messaging that's not Texas at all. I mean even, even Democrats in Texas are God fearing, Bible believing, church going people. I mean they disagree with the Republicans on certain issues but most the old guard Democrats don't believe what James has said. Like so last time if you looked at it, Ted Cruz versus Colin Alred Allred, the campaign was primarily about gender transitioning of your children. That's what Colin Alred Allred wanted and that's what James Tallarica wants. He was a he is a Texas House representative who either, yes, two things. Either he says, you know, God didn't tell you deport illegals or we don't want voters and all that stuff. That's one thing. The other time, anytime we talk about election integrity or stopping China and Russia, from buying up Texas land, he calls us racist. And that's pretty much the only two messaging they have. And I don't think Texans are buying that anymore. We flipped 12 new Democrat counties in 2024 cycle. mainly because their message, they just don't have anything to sell. people are not buying their narrative anymore. So this is going to be an interesting race but we're going to have to spend a lot of money. I was told that we're going to have more than a billion dollars spent on Texas the cycle by Democrats, and we're going to have to raise a lot of money but I think we can do it. I don't think Texas is going blue, even with all the money that's spent by establishment in Texas. all of these runoffs are happening. So I'm not even, I don't even think we're worried about the Democrat side. But again it's going to be a Battle, that's for sure. Yeah.

Jenna Ellis: And, that is. That is really wild to see just how much money goes into this. And, you know, and this is a, one state, and I'm speaking with Abraham George, who is the chairman of the Texas gop. And it's just a reminder, I think, to everyone listening across the country that, you know, all of these races matter, all of these primaries matter. And putting up, you know, the best candidate on, the Republican side, the best conservative, really matters. And then, you know, fast forwarding to the general election, making sure that, you know, we can back the most conservative candidate. I hope that you're right, that people in the state of Texas aren't buying, you know, what the left is trying to sell. I think that, largely right now those, kinds of messages aren't resonating with Americans.

Abraham George: Property tax is going to be the biggest issue in Texas

And, in just the last minute or so, I have with you here, Abraham George, what do you think is going to be the biggest, issue in Texas? You know, kind of heading into the general.

Abarham George: Well, there's a huge issue in Texas that hasn't been properly managed yet, and we need to worry about it, and that is property tax. if someone purchased a home 15 years ago for $100,000, it's valued at about 600 now, and the property tax just went up so much. So the local issue, the state issue is going to be property tax. And that's it. that's going to be the biggest issue we're going to have to. A few others. Water. You know, it's all, mostly like, not social issues. But then you look at the abortion pills coming into Texas. You look at, you know, the sil. The Planned Parenthood have offices all over Texas, even though it's illegal to have an abortion. So they're counseling people. So all of those things will be on the ballot. you know, it will be securing your children's future. It will be securing your financial future. That's what. That's what it's going to be. that's going to be. I think that's going to be the messaging from our side. Then one other major issue we see is the Sharia issue. There's a Islamification of, Texas. It's happening. So that's. That's another one. So there are a few major issues.

Jenna Ellis: All of those are major. Definitely major issues. Well, Abraham George, really appreciate your insights this morning and, you know, make sure, listeners in Texas that you are getting out and voting in that runoff election. Making your voices heard and you know, so many important things going on across the country. We will be right back with more.

Joel Rosenberg: The Iran war should not be characterized as a war

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Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. And the so called Iran war, which is the, the mainstream media's headline, is still ongoing. And I would just call this a strategic strike with ongoing conflict. But it really should not be characterized as a war. we've been talking about that all week. And you know, that's really more the Democrats messaging just to suggest that President Trump didn't have constitutional authority, to strike Iran when he has said that he believed that an imminent strike was forthcoming from Iran. And so, you know, did not allow that to occur from first. And it's been absolutely wild seeing some of the social media posts where even some Americans are suggesting, and of course, you know, they're the ones on the left suggesting, well, you know, we should have just let Iran strike first and then we would have been justified. Yeah, that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. But coming From All Israel News.com, the live updates here are, Israel is under simultaneous fire from Iran and Hezbollah. the IDF has ordered evacuation of the entire southern Lebanon and CENTCOM says operations are ahead of schedule. So, a lot more headlines as well from all Israel.com. so let's welcome in the editor and chief Joel Rosenberg, who's also host of the Rosenberg Report.

Joel Klein: I think President Trump is right to strike Iran

And Joel, are you in Israel right now?

Joel Rosenberg: I'm not Jenna. I'm actually here in Washington. The airports are closed. We cannot get back. So we are having meetings. I had a good meeting with Senator, Lindsey Graham yesterday, with the Saudi ambassador the night before, other leaders. And we're trying to pray about Linne and I. How, how do we get back? At the moment, we've got meetings, with our Joshua Fund board, our ministry to bless Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus by investing in the church and strengthening the church and advancing the Great Commission as well as caring for people who are suffering from war and terror. so we're having board meetings here over the next few days, and getting assessments from American leaders and regional leaders that work and live here, trying to understand, yeah, what's the next steps. But it is very encouraging the direction where we're going. This is, these are tectonic changes that are going on. the decapitation strike to take out Supreme Leader Allie Khamenei and his top 50, worst, most, Dangerous, bloodthirsty leadership, inner circle. This is huge. I mean, it's hard to describe for people what a big deal this is. But just to be clear, Iran started this war 47 years ago, and not a single American president until now, until President Trump has decided to finish it. So, the idea that, we should have waited for Iran to strike first. Oh, you mean when they took hostages 47 years ago, American hostages? When they killed 241 Marines in Beirut in 1983, and so on and so on and so on. When they started the October 7th war against Israel and our other allies. So it's.

 Corey DeAngelis : That's.

Joel Rosenberg: That's just insane thinking on the left, and it's not even worth thinking about.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and, I totally agree with that. And I think, that. That President Trump is right to do what he did. I'm personally in full support of, what's ongoing. And I think that he is making, calculated decisions that are in the best interests of America and the west overall.

 Corey DeAngelis : And.

Jenna Ellis: And, yet those who oppose this would say, because, there's so much talk about this going on for 47 years, then that undermines the messaging, that this was somehow an imminent threat. but I don't see it that way, Joel. I mean, something can be going on for a really long time, and there still be an imminent threat of yet another, sort of offensive strike that you have to respond to in the moment. And so, you know, yes, this has been going on 47 years. That just shows the track record that we need to take it seriously.

Joel Rosenberg: Absolutely. And I think what's getting missed here by. By those who, frankly, don't want to see it, is the fact that what happened in the negotiations. Right. President Trump didn't just wake up one morning and decide to attack, Iran and finish the war after 47 years. He began a diplomatic process.

 Corey DeAngelis : Right.

Joel Rosenberg: First last year, he gave Iran 60 days, make a serious, strong, verifiable agreement to get rid of all of your nuclear weapons program and your nuclear enrichment program, and then we'll be good and we won't have a war. They refused. And, President Trump ordered those strikes to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons, systems. But what happened this year? He engaged in diplomacy again. And what did we learn out of these diplomatic meetings? Steve Witkoff, the president's chief negotiator, said, on Fox the other day that the Iranian negotiators were bragging to him, Steve and Jared Kushner, that they had enough highly enriched uranium to build 11 nuclear warheads, and that, that was their beginning point. They weren't going to negotiate that away, but they might be willing to talk about other things. And when Witkoff and Jared Kushner looked at each other and then reported back to the President, that was a revelation. I don't think anybody in the US Government or in Israel knew that they still had. That Iranians still had enough highly enriched uranium to build 11 nuclear weapons. That showed us that last year's attack wasn't changing the course of this genocidal, apocalyptic, murderous regime, and that they had to be stopped. Like, if you wait, if you wait until they pull the trigger, that trigger might involve a nuclear warhead. So you can't wait. And as the Iranians were building hundreds of ballistic missiles a month, you'd get to a point where there'd be too many missiles that could attack American interests, American bases, Israel, the Arab world, and you wouldn't be able to go in and successfully, destroy Iran's offensive military capability. I think that President, Trump has done the exact right thing at the exact right moment. And I give him credit for at least trying twice to get a diplomatic solution, because we actually learned a lot, and it shows. Trump wasn't trying to just, you know, change the conversation off of some political thing that he didn't want to talk about. He. Everybody knew this was coming. He warned the Congress. I was sitting in the State of the Union address in the House, chamber when he laid out, look, this is where we are, and this is where we might have to go. Everybody knew this was coming, including Congress. And the idea that he didn't notify them is insane.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, I mean, he openly notified literally everybody who cared to watch. So, you know, all of these things are, just shallow tactics to try to undermine, what he's doing and the real rationale for this. And yet, you know, we see some of those on mainstream media who are suggesting that this is just a political tactic. I mean, I was even reading some of the headlines, that were coming in this morning, and there was one, I, think it was from the Economist. yeah, it's here that says, if his Iran war fails to pay off politically, will Donald Trump cut his losses or double down? And I'm going, that's not his calculation at all. I mean, this is not something where he's looking at the polls asking, you know, will people support this or not? I mean, yes, Donald Trump, does pay close attention to the polls, but he also, is paying close attention to what's actually happening on the world stage. And more than you know, any other president in certainly my lifetime. He really understands that America first genuinely means America First. And that also means protecting our allies. And it means protecting the west and Western values. And I see, you know, all of this. And his foreign policy has been shaped based on that ethic. And this is absolutely consistent with you know, what we should have expected from Donald Trump.

Joel Rosenberg: This is President Trump keeping his word to the American people that he would protect us, particularly from the genocidal Iranian regime. Like he, the President said that in his first term and he took actions to move in that direction. He said that in the campaign, in 24. And he's said it every day or almost every day over the last year and now he's actually doing it. And the latest polling is actually very interesting. 85% of Republicans, approve this action. This idea that there's like a split in the MAGA base. no, yeah, Tucker Carlsen and the others don't like it, but 85% of Republicans do like it. That's according to the CBS News poll. And overall CBS News of all places, very interesting with the takeover by Barry Weiss, a, conservative. their newest poll shows overall 76% of the American people support military action against Iran as long as it only lasts a number of weeks. If it goes on for years, yeah, the number drops down to 13%. But right now we're at 76%. Now I'm not saying this is popular. People wanted it to happen, but the President told us that he's going to make America great again.

You can't be great if there's a regime for 47 years attacking you

You can't be great if there's a regime for 47 years attacking you declaring Death to America. Death to America. Death to America has killed more Americans maimed and murdered and wounded more Americans since the Vietnam War. That's Iran. And now they were on the race to build 11 nuclear bombs and the missiles to deliver them. Only an insane left wing lunatic in the American political sphere or, Tucker Carlsen and Candace Owens.

Jenna Ellis: Isn't that the same thing from this. Yeah. And you know, and it's just, it's a couple of loud voices on the right. It's certainly not the base, it's certainly not, you know, kind of this mainstream. And this is the frustration with kind of the rise of alternative media is that you get a lot of noise and chatter that has been mistaken for for actually representing a certain segment or demographic of audience that then turns into constituency. And I don't think that that's accurate. Just because somebody like a Tucker Carlsen has a really loud voice. And, you know, we, we've expected that from, you know, outlets on the left for a long time. But this is where, you know, I've consistently said, Jill, Rosenberg, this is why, people on the right, and Christian conservatives in particular, have an obligation to have discernment and claims to be on our side. Doesn't necessarily mean that the opinions they voice are genuinely conservative or biblical. And, you know, and so.

Some US military commanders accused of telling troops Iran war is part of biblical prophecy

So speaking of, you know, some of these ridiculous headlines, I wanted to get your take on this as well. because, you know, just speaking of undermining, and this isn't coming from Tucker, but it's coming from, you know, Huffington Post, which, you know, maybe is as ridiculous as Tucker Carlsen is these days. But the right. But the headline is, some US Military commanders have reportedly been accused of telling their troops the Iran war is part of a biblical plan to trigger the end times. And I just sat there, Joel, and was like, this is ridiculous. And it's such a shallow attempt to cast Christians in a bad light. Because anyone who actually believes Revelation is an accurate description of the end times, as I do, also knows that we don't know the day or the hour of Christ coming, much less have the ability to trigger it. I mean, this is just trying to make Christians look stupid.

Joel Rosenberg: Well, I would make a distinguishing, point here, which is, I believe we are watching prophecy unfold, but I can't imagine a single commander in the United States military saying that to their troops. the American forces are so brave, they're so well trained, they're so well led, and they're winning. They are winning a war that, we should have fought years ago against a regime that hates us and chants death to America every single day of the year. but the idea that American commanders are teaching Bible prophecy, that's insane. That's not happening. And this is fake news. But I will say, and unashamedly, we're watching Bible prophecy play out, and we are living in the last days. And the rebirth of Israel was a prophetic event in 1948. And we're going to mark several dates that are hugely consequential. Obviously, the fall of the pro American, pro Israel, pro Western Shah of Iran, In January of 1979, that was a big deal. The rise of the ayatollah Khomeini on February 1st, 1979, that was a big deal. November 4th, 1979, when Iran took over the, US embassy and held our hostages for 444 days. Humiliating days. That was a big moment in Middle east history. the murder of 241 Marines in October of 1983, that was a big moment. And October 7th was a big moment, among others. But February 28th, 2026, is going to go down. We haven't. People aren't using the date yet, but they will. February 28th was the day that the Wicked Witch of the west, died and, that the Supreme Leader, Allie Khamenei, was decapitated along with his entire inner circle. This was one of the biggest moments in geopolitical history led by President Trump. But I believe it's also prophetic history. Jeremiah 49, the last verses of Jeremiah 49, talk about that God is going to get so angry with the Iranian regime in the last days that he's going to destroy the king and his princes. That's a very interesting moment that has not happened. We haven't seen the death of a leader, in Iran. I can't even tell you when. I think you'd have to go back to the 1950s. This is a big deal. And what that Bible prophecy talks about is that Iran is going to be transformed from a wicked regime into a region, into a nation blessed by God. Now, we're in the early stages, and I don't expect all, or maybe any of your listeners to even, be aware of Jeremiah 49, much less believe it. But I'd encourage them to read it, to process it, especially if they're Christians and say, lord, are we moving into some interesting moments? It's not wrong for pastors, preachers, or even people like you and me to talk about Bible prophecy and assess where we are. Jesus criticizes his followers when they can't understand, the significance of the times that they're living in. But US commanders shouldn't do it. And I doubt that they have.

Jenna Ellis: And such a great distinction, Joel Rosenberg, between the Christian view that obviously we are looking at current events and we are. I mean, with every day that passes, it's just a fact that we are closer to the return of Christ and the end of all things, because we are, you know, one day further into a world history and into the timeline. And so we are supposed to be looking at the signs of the times and all of those things. And that's distinct from suggesting that somehow, you know, these military commanders are purposefully trying to orchestrate, their foreign policy strategy and their war strategy based on trying to trigger, some kind of Armageddon or, or triggering the coming of Christ, the second coming and the end of all things. And so I think, you know, that kind of confusion in an article like HuffPost just shows why, you know, so many of these mainstream media outlets who don't understand biblical, theology, they don't understand, prophecy, they don't understand any of this, and they're commenting on things that they don't understand or, that just generates confusion. And we as Christians need to have more discernment. We need to rightfully divide truth from error. And we do need to be looking at this because while, you know, this may, this isn't, and it may not be, these, these commanders and certainly, you know, Donald Trump trying intentionally to trigger the end of all things, it is very possible that world events right now are, are coming together in ways that we can say, you know, this is definitely getting closer. And so, you know, what do you see? I mean, we've talked about biblical prophecy a lot and you know, the end of all things in Revelation and all of this, how do you see what's going on right now on the world stage in light of Scripture?

Joel Rosenberg: Well, I would start with that's an interesting story. And I did see that headline, second Peter, chapter three, in verse three starts by saying, know this first of all that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts and saying, where is the promise of his coming? Jesus is coming forever since the Father fell asleep. All continues just as it was from the beginning of the creation. And then it goes on to explain why there are going to be people who don't understand it. They're going to mock it, they're going to think it's ridiculous, but that we're supposed to keep our eyes on the fact that Jesus is coming back, that he didn't tell us everything, every sign to watch for, but he gave us a list in Matthew 24, in Luke 21 and elsewhere in the scriptures to give us a sense that, hey, when you see all these things, know that I'm near, that my hand is right at the door. And so I, you know, I would say the rebirth of Israel in 1948 was one of the biggest, most dramatic sets of end times prophecies to come to pass in our. Well, it was, it was pre my lifetime, but. And Jews returning by the millions from exile back to the promised land. And then Jesus talked about, you'll see, wars, rumors of wars, civil wars, insurrections, revolutions you'll see the persecution of Christians and so forth. And you also see the spread of the gospel. And we see the spread of the gospel in Iran, for example. Millions of Iranians have left Islam over the last 47 years and come to faith in Jesus Christ. And these are all signs that we're getting closer and we should live boldly and without shame.

Jenna Ellis: Amen to that. Always, be waiting and watching. What a great word. Jill Rosenberg, thanks so much. And as always, you can reach me and my team. Jennaafr.net