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People are hungry for the gospel of Jesus Christ

Well, let's jump to the scripture and then we'll talk a little bit about, Easter and at least what I did and celebrated for easter. John, chapter 21 is where we are. And this is after the resurrection of the Messiah. And looking at verse 14 of John, chapter 21, it says that this is now the third time Jesus showed himself to his disciples. This is the, instance in which Jesus is at the Sea of Galilee, three of his disciples are fishing, Jesus appears to them, and it says in verse 14, this is now the third time Jesus showed himself to his Disciples after he was raised from the dead. The other scripture that comes to mind is one of Paul's writings in 1 Corinthians, where, 1 Corinthians 15, the apostle Paul writes that Jesus, after he was resurrected before the ascension, Jesus appeared to more than 500 people at once. And so, the fact that Jesus obviously resurrected from the dead, this is what we celebrate, Easter, but also the fact that he did ministry after his resurrection, before his ascension and is just amazing. And there's so many witnesses to corroborate the fact that Jesus was risen from the dead. There's even, passages that talk about how his disciples and others saw his wounds on his hands, saw, the scars on his side, and, were just reminded of the truth that Jesus rose from the dead. And not only rose from the dead, but then ministered to and appeared, to Paul says over 500 people at once. And that's not counting the multiple interactions with his disciples after his resurrection. Well, I got to take part in a, first ever passion play that I've played a part in. I was one of the disciples that thankfully I had a non speaking part. So the pressure was low on the performance side. but our church here, my local church, did a passion play for the first time in a long time. They probably used to do it back in the day, so to speak, but I wasn't a part of it. I know it's at least been 15 years. Nonetheless, it went phenomenal. I mean, everything from the music to the acting to the solos and the speaking parts. And then we had folks, we had to show how hungry people are for accurate presentations, of the gospel. We had nearly a thousand people both nights. And this is not a big sanctuary, relatively speaking. We're talking a sanctuary that typically seats maybe 850, 900 if you really, you know, max out the capacity on the pews. but we were bringing in chairs from Sunday school classrooms. It was just very, very encouraging to see. But as I alluded to last week, people are hungry for the gospel. They're hungry for the truth of God's word. Because we're living in a culture and in a world that is just void. It's void of truth, it's void in many instances of God's word. And, you can find a lot of negativity if you look around. It doesn't take very long. And so people are hungry for something encouraging, they're hungry for something true. And most importantly, they're hungry for something beyond themselves. And that's what the gospel of Jesus Christ brings. So I hope you had an encouraging Easter weekend and Resurrection Sunday. It is a historical fact that we serve a risen Savior and he is seated at the right hand of the Father. That's John 21, looking at verses 14 there in the book of John.

First instance of fighter jet pilots ejecting over Iranian territory since conflict began

Well, let's jump into the news. Plenty happened over the weekend. I don't know how many of you kept up with this, pilot that was stranded in Iran. This was a wild story that ended positively, thankfully, could have gone south in many m ways. I believe this transpired Thursday into Friday where an F15E jet, military jet went down in Iran. Which the fact that we. This is the first instance of pilots, US Fighter pilots going down in Iran since This operation began 30 days ago. Now, we've lost other aircraft and we've lost, sadly we've lost, pilots and crew members in aircraft in other territories like over Iraq and places. But this is the first instance of fighter jet pilots having to eject over Iranian territory since this conflict began. Which that in of itself is impressive that we've been launching over 15,000 strikes, thousands of missions. And this is the first instance of, of a, pilots having to eject over Iran. Well, within, within, you know, a couple hours of the pilots going down. The first pilot would arrest, was rescued. And this. And anybody who hasn't read up on this, I would encourage you to go kind of put this puzzle together. It's very fascinating. And there's going to be a movie out on this probably within the next year. The first pilot, the first F15 pilot, well, it was the pilot and then the other one was a crew member, weapons officer. The pilot was rescued within hours of going down and he was rescued in the daytime, which this is very dangerous. We had military helicopters and aircraft over Iran at low altitude during daylight hours looking for and recovering the pilot of the F15. Well, it quickly became clear, and we'll talk about this, here in a minute, but it quickly became clear that the weapons Officer or the second crew member of this F15E was not recovered and was somewhere in Iran, somewhere in southwest Iran. Well, after two days, the US Military finally located, verified the location of this second crew member and then flew in and extracted the weapons officer. Now what makes this, this harrowing, historic and just a miraculous recovery is that the first recovery was done in daylight hours in hostile territory not controlled by the US and the second recovery took place 48 hours later. and the Iranians knew the Second pilot was in Iranian territory. And there were thousands of Iranian police officers, military members and civilians all trying to find the missing pilot. Thankfully, they didn't. And the US Military flew in not only helicopters, we flew in aircraft with helicopters in the aircraft. And the US military landed deep, hundreds of miles into Iranian territory in the desert, which it was a desert, but it wasn't quite remote. And I'll explain why here in a minute. The US military, nearly 100 special operators, landed two aircraft in the desert of Iran in the dark of night, unloaded these very small, helicopters, and then took off from there, flew roughly five miles into the mountains and got the pilot, rescued the pilot, or, not the pilot, the weapons officer rescued the weapons officer, flew back to this makeshift, Runway, which is basically an agricultural Runway in Iran, that we turned into our Runway overnight. And then after this happened, and I'm giving you the shortened version, after we got the helicopters back to this makeshift Runway in the middle of the desert, the planes that we came in on couldn't take off. They were having mechanical issues. They couldn't take off. So we've got 100 special forces operators and this wounded weapons officer in Iran for hours. At this point, they have to deplane and wait nearly three hours for the US to send in secondary aircraft to pick them up at this makeshift dirt Runway in the middle of Iran. And thankfully, they make it out alive. Magnificent story. and the president, did a press conference earlier today, very detailed, press conference, about the heroic rescue mission we launched. And as I mentioned, there's many more details. But what stood out to me is the fact that the US Military can go into this is also embarrassing for Iran, by the way, which I'll tell you why in a minute. But the fact that the US Military flew airplanes into Iran, and this wasn't just like, on the border, like a couple miles in, they flew airplanes, large aircraft, into Iran. Just, let's say, I don't know exactly how far, but it was on the outskirts of Iran's second largest city, Esfahan, which actually has one of the nuclear sites that we're going after. But we flew aircraft. This city has over 2 million people in it. And we flew aircraft in, in the desert and had over 100 special forces operators within miles of the second largest city in Iran for hours on the ground. And Iran could do nothing about it. Iran could do nothing about it. As I mentioned, Iran had thousands of people looking for this weapons officer to no success. And so this is just a phenomenal story and a story that China and Russia and others are surely paying attention to that within 30 days of a military operation, we have completely decapitated all of their air defenses and decapitated their military to such an extent that we can fly over 100 military members into Iran, deep into Iran, with. We can land on the ground in a makeshift Runway outside of the second largest city in Iran, and we can be on the ground for three to six hours. Nobody wounded, no shots fired from the ground, that is. And we extracted this weapons officer and got him home safely. So very encouraging story and very, thankful that the, US has the best military unmatched really in the world. And there's no other military that can do this kind of stuff, not China, not Russia, clearly not Iran. And, so we just need to pray that our leaders use the military for right causes, for just causes. And we'll talk a little bit more about that after the break. But we're thankful that, this pilot and weapons officer weren't recovered by Iran. That would have been a disaster. It would have been a hostage situation or much worse. So we'll be back in a few minutes. Stay, stay tuned.

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The Supreme Court hears oral arguments on President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship

Well, as I alluded to last week, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in this case, regarding President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship. And this is essentially a question over the interpretation of the 14th amendment. As a brief reminder, the 14th amendment was passed and was intended to give citizenship, to slaves and the children of slaves. That was the historical context of the 14th Amendment. Those writing the 14th Amendment, even some of the lawmakers that passed legislation alongside this were the context was what do we do with slaves and the children of slaves? And of course the 14th amendment came around which gave them citizenship. now of course this has been twisted in a way that gives anyone and everyone citizenship, as long as they're born on American soil. So this includes illegal immigrants born, that have children on American soil. They become immediate citizens according to their most recent interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Also if, a lot of these Chinese nationals, this has become a big deal, the Chinese nationals are having what they're calling birth tourism where these Chinese nationals will pay to have their child in America so that they can have citizenship. Of course the child has citizenship immediately but then also when they become of age, there is a legal process in which you can request your parents to become citizens as well. And so there's a lot of abuse here. It's rampant across the board. hundreds of thousands, really, over the decades, millions of people have become citizens through this birthright citizenship, clause in the 14th Amendment. And so that is what was being litigated. But just to show you how far we've come, the birthright citizenship and the most recent interpretation of the 14th Amendment, it used to be criticized by virtually both parties. I mean, Democrats and Republicans used to talk about how we are not interpreting this correctly. This was not intended to allow the children of illegal immigrants in our country to have full citizenship. That's not what the context was. That's not what the intent was when the 14th amendment was passed. Nonetheless, let's listen to a much, younger Dianne Feinstein, in 1993, criticizing a Democrat criticizing birthright citizenship and illegal aliens.

>> Late Sen Dianne Feinstein: Clip 2 Should you have a system where people can come to this country, even if they're well, to do, get on Medicaid and give birth to a baby and then go back? The answer is no. And we know that Medicaid laws are being used and abused to do just this in the state of California. I'd like to see that stop. about 13% of the California prison population, costing close to $300 million a year, are illegal aliens. I've had judges in Los Angeles and Orange county tell me one half of their criminal dockets are illegal aliens. Presently, a convicted illegal alien has the option of serving their sentence in California or being returned to their country, of origin. I think that option ought to be removed.

>> Walker Wildmon: Okay, so, so Feinstein doesn't specifically mention birthright citizenship there, but she talks about the abuse of Medicaid, by illegal immigrants. She also talks about how we're housing illegal immigrants in our own prison systems and footing the bill. She says that ought to end. This is Diana Feinstein speaking out against illegal immigration and their abuse of our system, including Medicaid. I want to know, where did the Democrats go, that they are unrecognizable today? And if you play clips of Republicans over the years, not a lot has changed. Maybe some, but not a lot has changed. But now we have Democrats that are now rooting for illegal immigration, but not just rooting for illegal immigrants in general. They're actually going to bat for in the media some of the worst of the worst. And opposing President Trump's crackdown on Illegal immigration at every turn, no matter what. let's listen to clip three. This one I think does mention birthright citizenship, but this is Harry Reid talking about birthright citizenship and of course illegal immigration. Clip 3.

>> Late Sen Harry Reid: If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how about offering a reward for, for being an illegal immigrant? No sane country would do that, right? Guess again. If you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee a, full access to all public and social services this society provides. And that's a lot of services. Is it any wonder that 2/3 of the babies born at taxpayer expensive country county run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, there you have it. That's Harry Reid, criticizing birthright citizenship, saying that this is an incentive, this is a draw for illegal immigrants to reward them. That's his word. Reward them for coming into our country and illegally. Once again, where did the Democrats of 1993 go? They're a completely different party. And when you look at the modern day Democrat party, one could make a case, and I guess I will, that in large part maybe not. If we want to be accurate here, we want to be fair. Maybe not completely, but I would argue at least half of their core issues that Democrats run on lobby for, go into the media for are counter America. They fundamentally undermine America. And that's what we're talking, that's what we're going through now with this partial government shutdown, by the way, which is still going on. Regarding the Department of Homeland Security, you have the Democrats, let me remind you, the Democrats have historically like hammered the Republicans for any government shutdown and the media too. Anytime that Republicans, for any reason, valid or invalid, right or wrong, have shut down the government or have refused to pass a bill to fund the government, Democrats in the media have, have gone full, you know, fear mongering. You shouldn't shut down the government. People are going to get hurt. How dare you. People are going to starve. They're not going to get their welfare benefits. Republicans are heartless. They're holding our government hostage. I mean, they use all the talking points about how, how big and bad the Republicans are for quote, shutting down the government. But here we are with the Democrats and we're over a month now by the way of the Department of Homeland Security not being fully funded over a month because the Democrats want to defund ice, they want to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement and they're refusing to Fund the government, fund the DHS because of it. And so when you look at that as an outside observer, how do you look at that and go, that's for America? This is pro America at its core. It's not because you can't be in favor of defunding an entire agency within the Department of Homeland Security that is responsible for arresting and deporting people that shouldn't be in the country. But then go before the cameras and say that you're. You're. You know, you're representing America. You're representing the American people. Now the Democrat Party has become the de facto lobbying arm of the entire illegal immigrant apparatus. And this is an apparatus. Whether it's the cartels, whether it's the human smugglers, the sex traffickers, all of it has become this entrenched system. And you have an entire party in our country that lobbies for the entrenched, illegal, criminal, unconstitutional system that has become illegal immigration. And the cartels of the drug smuggling, all of it, is, you know, what's the clause, Bobby? The legal, there was the legal approach that was used against President Trump. that was used against the mafia back in the day. I don't think it's racketeering, but it's based rico. Yeah, the RICO violations. If there's anything that is actually qualifying for RICO charges and investigation, it's this entire illegal, immigration, criminal cartel apparatus, because there are multiple parts of it, by the way. This isn't just people on their own walking across the border. There's an entire system. Half of it, by the way, works under the guise of a legal system. And what I'm talking about is these charities, specifically the Catholic Charities, that, have these illegal immigrant houses and shelters along the border, and they're aiding in the smuggling. They're aiding in the human smuggling.

Department of Homeland Security under Biden helped aid illegal immigrants and sex traffickers

And our own Department of Homeland Security under Biden did this, by the way. So if you want to talk about reasons to defund DHS under Biden, there was a reason to, and that was because they were helping, aid illegal immigrants and the cartels and the sex traffickers to smuggle people into the country. Our own government was running bus services from, for example, Del Rio to Atlanta. Well, why Atlanta? Well, because that's a major sex trafficking hub. And then we were dumping little girls off in Atlanta with nowhere to go, and then they end up with the sex traffickers, and we act shocked. That was our own government. And so if you're talking about a reason to shut down the government, that seems like one.

James Carville says Democrats are going to come back with a vengeance

but here we are now, over a month and no end in sight, by the way. No end in sight. And this is what happens when a, ah, party and their base, they revel in this. They revel in chaos. They don't know what they stand for. All they know is what they stand against. And it's everything President Trump, everything that he says and does. And James, to show you how off the deep end the Democrats have gotten even the more sane voices, and I hate to give them that much credibility, but anybody who watches occasionally, James Carville, former Clinton associate and longtime, Democrat operative, he's usually the one that tells the Democrats that they need to come back to earth. And Carville's no saint, alright? So I'm not complimenting, I guess I am in a roundabout way complimenting Carville, but he's usually the Democrat that's like, hey guys, if y' all want to win elections, quit acting crazy. Is basically what he routinely tells the Democrats. Well, even James Carville's gone off the deep end because I just, I couldn't even bring the clip on the show. I told Bobby there's too much profanity, it would be a beep every three seconds, seconds. But James Carville's gone totally Trump derangement syndrome. Talking about, they're going to, how the Democrats are going to investigate Trump, they're going to put him in jail, they're going to investigate his kids, they're going to ruin his life, they're going to, they're going to destroy his family, they're going to go after everybody when, when they win the House of Representatives, assuming they do in November. So the Democrats are, they're going to come back with a vengeance. And I knew this when President Trump got elected for the second time. I knew that, hey, the next four years President, Trump's going to be able to get a lot done, both on the legislative side and on the executive side. He's obviously, they're building the wall as we speak, three miles a day. President Trump's going to be able to get a lot done on illegal immigration, mass deportations, a lot of foreign policy victories, economic victories. But, but when all is said and done and the pendulum swings back, which historically speaking it always does, you know, unless the Lord comes back, Democrats, will assume control of the White House at some point in the future. That's just how history has, has borne out in our country. They're going to come back with a vengeance and, they're going to come back hard and it's it's going to be aggressive because for them this is a religion. This progressive, left wing, secular humanist ideology has de facto become a religion for them. They are bent on all things godlessness and they will punish anyone and everyone that dares to speak the truth and do the right thing. And, obviously President Trump's not the only one doing that. Others are as well. But hopefully our country wakes up and there's enough people that know the Democrats for who they are. We'll be back in a few.

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is at the Core on American Family Radio with your host, Walker Wildmon.

American Family Radio welcomes Ray Moore, founder of Exodus Mandate Project

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome back to the Core here on American Family Radio. Well, our guest we have on now has been leading the charge and people, parents and children flocking to private education and of course homeschooling as well. Ray, Moore is with us. Ray is founder of the Exodus Mandate Project. He's also also author of Let My Children Go. And he was featured along with myself in Steven, McDowell's latest film on education, which we'll talk a little bit about as well. Ray Moore, glad to have you on the program.

>> Ray Moore: Thank you, Walker, and it's a great pleasure to meet you. I think we bumped in each other at the recent nrv and I know your father, and I was friendly with your, I'm old enough to have been friendly with your granddad as well.

>> Walker Wildmon: Excellent. So we definitely, run in a lot of the same circles. Ray, so glad to have you on. Hey, Ray, tell us about your organization, about your ministry, the, exodus mandate.

>> Ray Moore: 35 years ago we started a ministry called exodus mandate. That's exodusmandate.org exodusmandate.org and it's an effort to get churches, pastors and families to exit the state run public school system for the promised land of campus, Christian schools or homeschooling. And we've been doing that a long time and it's just been since the pandemic in 2020. We've seen an explosion in our ranks and millions are leaving now. So we're so gratified to see what's happening.

Recent studies show increase in interest in homeschooling and private education

>> Walker Wildmon: let's talk about that, about this upward trend. And a lot of the studies over the last couple, three to four years have shown post Covid this surge in not only homeschooling but also private education as well. I personally know multiple, communities and churches that have aided in the starting the founding of schools within the churches. obviously this has been going on for a long time now. But how do you explain the Most recent uptick in this interest in parents either homeschooling their children or doing some kind of cooperative or private education.

>> Ray Moore: I believe it's Holy Spirit led and is happening in the providence of God. And timing is a, a strange thing in the work of the Lord. Sometimes you can be advocating and moving along in a certain pattern. It just, you just seem to be stifled and stamina. And all of a sudden one day the Lord just says, hey, I'm going to show you something. So I think we're seeing that right now. A lot of it had to do with the pandemic that people didn't realize how bad public schools were until they were bringing the stuff into their living room through video and on computer. And so parents were just horrified. So millions of families were forced out. They couldn't go to school. So when the schools reopened, many millions of hundreds of, ah, thousands of family elected to stay home.

>> Walker Wildmon: M. What do you, say to churches? Because I know, I've heard from churches and pastors that they from an idea, from a concept standpoint, this sounds great, right? Utilizing the church building during the week for some type of education, set up some type of schooling or cooperative. but you've got to, it's a big commitment. And so churches and pastors got to be all in on this. And if they are, it proves successful the vast majority of the time.

Ray Moore: Christian schools are exploding in evangelical churches

But what do you say to pastors and church leaders that have heard this concept before about their church building being used during the week for education for young people? What do you say to them, those who maybe are on the fence on this or not sure if it's something they should take on or not?

>> Ray Moore: Well, having been myself a minister for 50 years and being 82 years old, I feel like it can finally say what I really think. And I would say to them, pastor, do your job. This is your job to educate the children of your church. And Christian schools are homeschooling and not put your children in harm's way in pagan, secular, humanist public schools. And there's so much scripture for this. It's just overwhelming the amount of texts that would support, this idea. And there's a hundred thousand evangelical churches in America and about 94,000 public schools. We don't need every church to start a school, but if every third or fourth one would do it, we would, we would meet the need. There's it's just the churches are there, there's. They're empty school buildings and they could start, start schools or homeschool co ops.

>> Walker Wildmon: You know, once again we're talking to Ray Moore with the Exodus Mandate Project. He's also authored the book Let My Children Go. Ray, in just firsthand experience, knowing churches that have either brought in and adopted schools that were already in place, but maybe they didn't have the facilities or they got kicked out of one facility and moved on to the next, knowing firsthand having young children and youth on the church campus during the week, it just breathes life into the church ministry and the church congregation. So it's, it's really a win win for the churches and for the school leaders, the educators and the youth that are being educated.

>> Ray Moore: Yeah, we feel that it will grow the church. And there's a lot of indications of churches that do schools, Christian schools or homeschool co ops actually grow, bringing in young families of small children. And there's an old saying, love me, love my kids. And so if churches show concern for the children, the parents will be grateful and they may end up enjoining that particular church.

>> Walker Wildmon: Ray, who out there, and maybe it's your organization, but who provides some of the best hands on training for this? Like if you've got, and I know there's ministries out there that do this, if you've got a pastor, an associate pastor or a couple of deacons that are interested in doing this and either allowing a school to move into their church campus or starting a school on the church campus. Who provides some of this training out there?

>> Ray Moore: Well, there's a number, we're not specialized enough to provide that. We're more of an advocacy group. But we, and we function as a broker for these kinds of organizations. You're talking about probably one of the best is foundation for American Christian Education in Chesapeake, Virginia and they do training and right now they're in the process of starting about 40 new Christian schools, including First Baptist Church of Atlanta, which is where Charles Stanley was for many years. His longtime associate who has taken over there, is starting a faith school in Atlanta.

>> Walker Wildmon: Wow.

>> Ray Moore: Then another group that's very strong is a group called Renewanation a Nation in Roanoke, Virginia. And they are just all over the nation starting dozens if not hundreds of Christian schools. The Southern Baptists now are getting into it and starting school. So Christian schools are exploding now in the evangelical churches.

>> Walker Wildmon: M Very, very encouraging. Hey Ray, tell us where folks can find your book, Let My Children Go and your website to read more about your work.

>> Ray Moore: My website is exodusmandate.org and there's a lot of information there and they can look and see how they can order, some of our materials. And, we have videos, books and a number of items and they can go there. Exodusmandate.org I'm also chairman of the board of a group that's very similar, based in San Diego, called public school exit.com. i don't run that, but I'm on the board. And that group is working very well on the west coast and actually all over the nation. And there's a lot of new ministries like Exodus Mandate have come up in the last, you know, four to five years.

>> Walker Wildmon: M. Excellent, Ray. Hey, thank you, brother, for your work. clearly the Lord's using it and it's beginning to pay dividends. And, we thank you for coming on.

>> Ray Moore: Thank you for having me.

>> Walker Wildmon: Absolutely. That's Ray Moore, founder of the Exodus Mandate Project, also author of Let My Children Go. And Ray was featured along with myself in Steven McDowell's film Educated for Liberty, which will link to both. Put this on the rundown, Bobby. We'll link to both, Steven McDowell's film and, the foundation for American Christian Education that Ray alluded to there that does some training on, churches that are interested in starting schools or bringing schools on board on the campus. So we appreciate Ray and his work and him coming on the program.

The messaging from the White House on the Iran situation has been inconsistent

the messaging, from the White House on the Iran situation, specifically the messaging from President Trump has been all over the map. And I could, you know, we could do a couple segments on this and play different clips. And I've done some of that in the past. But, but it's indisputable that the messaging has m. Been all over the map. Now, to President Trump's defense, sometimes in the quote art of the deal negotiations, being all over the map or being hard to read is part of the strategy. And so it's very possible because President Trump has a very good team around him. I've talked extensively about this, especially in the early months of the presidency for, for this term, how he's got the best of the best around him in many of these agencies and departments. And so the caliber of people are there. And so the messaging here though, from the President is very inconsistent. You've got different talks of a ceasefire or a five day pause on strikes, or we're close to cutting a deal with Iran. So the messaging has been all over the place to give the President the benefit of the doubt. It's likely that this is, controlled chaos and really meant to leave the enemy the Iranians, confused about what exactly the US Is doing and where we're going and when we're doing it. But nonetheless, the outcome that I've spoken about the most is this outcome. And I think it's the most likely, this outcome that there is no deal with the Iranians. The reason I think this is the most likely outcome is just because of how irrational the Iranian, leaders are. From their clerics to their Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core to a large segment of their population. These are Muslim Islamic fanatics. And they think that they're serving some higher order, some higher power. Now, of course we know they serve a false religion and a false God, but clearly they don't know that yet. And they view the west and Christianity and America as satanic, as evil. And so, you know, we're not operating under some normal, rational system where both parties want what's best for their people. And in this instance, I think it's likely that there is no quote, unquote deal. And I think that's what President Trump and his team are going to have to figure out, is that there has to be a way out of this if there is no quote unquote deal. And I keep saying quote, unquote because you can have a forced deal without both parties consenting to it. And what I mean by that is you can set the Iranian military back for decades. You can achieve the three primary objectives that Secretary Rubio laid out, which is targeting the ballistic missile capabilities, targeting the drone production capacity and the, capabilities and decimating their navy, the Iranian navy. You can achieve those three things, set the Iranians militarily back decades and call it a victory. And you just tell the Iranians that, hey, if you guys go back and dig up the uranium or if you begin building drones or missiles again, then we'll come back. Clearly it's no problem for us to come back. We can do it quickly, we can do it effectively, we can do it in under 30 days, as we've proven. And next time it'll probably be quicker than 30 days because of the damage we've done for these 30 days. And that is the, quote, deal. And that leaves President Trump and his administration fully in the driver's seat. And then you pull out which polls are showing that the American people, while they clearly support the military, they clearly support President Trump. They do want to know how does this end, where does this end? And we don't want to. The polling on a years long commitment in the Middle East. Again, militarily, the polling just not there. There's just not that level of support for this. And so. But that's the most likely outcome, based on the last four weeks, that I think President Trump can pull off, and he can pull off well, and then he can hang his hat on that. Our military buried, the Iranian nuclear program, which, according to reports, that's what we've done. We've buried their nuclear program to such an extent that there are some reports that. That not only can the Iranians not get to it, but we can't get to it either. We can't dig it up. It would take weeks to dig up. But if you do that and you've truly set Iran back militarily to where they can't project power in the region anymore, to me, that's a victory. That's a victory because we stayed focused on the primary objectives that we set out for four to five weeks ago. We accomplished the objectives. We showed the rest of the world, including Iran and China, that they don't need to mess with us militarily. And then we bring our troops home. And, of course, you leave a lingering force just to swat down any Iranian proxies that try to pop up in the region. but President Trump. Trump has time to do that. Of course, you got to get the straight of Hormuz open. He has time to do that and get the economy back on track well before the midterms. It's doable. We'll keep tracking it. See you next time.

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